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Post subject: SQUEEGE
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:19 pm
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Hey thanks for the info in the straight edge at home depot. I don't know about you man but right now times are very tuff for everyone and i can't afford to spend all that money for something when i can come up with it myself,you know.

Man i'm still puzzled about my guitar......You turn the truss rod nut to right and it does what it suppose to,,,you turn it to the left and nothing happens....

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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:02 pm
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Mke sure to loosen the strings when you adjust the relief. If nothing happens dont keep turning any further. You've reached as far as you can go without pro tools.


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Post subject: REPLYING TO NECK
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:42 pm
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Hey man, you know i've been thinking the same thing for at least a few days now,about looseing the strings before doing anything to the neck.

So the rule of thumb is if youre going to be adjusting the neck on any guitar always loosen strings first right ? Does this include " MICROTILT " as well ?

QUESTION : If you wanted to , how far will the trussrod turn when loosening it.

QUESTION : Soon as i finish writing this i'm going to try what you just said, but first i have to tell you that the trussrod right now is loose, do i need to turn tighten it back just a tad before i readjust it ?

I'M SO VERY GREATFULL OF YOU BUDDY FOR HELPING ME
IF I CAN RETURN A FAVOR IN ANYWAY PLEASE LET ME KNOW.. I BUILD COMPUTERS,,,,THATS ALL I'M GOING TO SAY

IF YOU WANT YOU CAN EMAIL ME AT ..jhrsmith@bellsouth.net......

I'M GONNA WAIT AND SEE WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT THAT LAST QUESTION,OK..

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Yes, always loosen the strings before adjusting the truss rod or anything to do with the bridge. Go a 1/4 turn at a time re tune to standard tuning and measure relief again. Keep doing this until relief is according to specs or to your liking.

Clockwise will straighten the neck, counterclockwise will make the neck bow forward (toward the bridge).

The truss rod should never be left loose, it should at least be tight like a 1/4 turn clockwise.

Right now if since the truss rod is loose, you need to loosen the strings, tighten the rod 1/4 turn, re tune and check relief. Start there. However, if you cannot get proper relief at the loosest or tightest point then there's a problem with the neck and you should take it to a shop.

Just glad I can help a fellow musician. Beside I work in IT myself. Now we just need to get you and your guitar playing.


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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:23 pm
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Hey man, youre one heck of a guy,you know.I grearly appreciate you taking the time out to help me.I've just loosend my strings.LOL...

Oh yeah ! About the trussrod. If you were to keep tirning it counter clockwise would it com out? Reason asking is because when i loosend it, it stoped turning at about 1 1/2 turns and wouldnt turn no more.

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The truss rod should not come out, no worry about that. It will just reach the end of the threads. But, do not over tighten, if you feel it is getting hard to turn, do not force it, you can damage the threads or the neck.


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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:54 pm
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Hey man,i gotcha on that. Ok, i did what you said. I loosend all the strings gavve it 1/4 of a turn, probally alittle moe, then i tuned it to standard pitch. Weird thing kept happing though. Every time i would tune it, i would strum down and it would still be way out of tune.

Here are the string measurements starting at the 1st and 3rd--0.50, and the 15th and 17th --- 0.100..

WHAT DO YOU THINK I SHOULD DO NOW, " MICROTILT "

JEFF PS I FOUND MY TRYPOD FOR MY CAMERA SO IF YOU NEED A GOOD PIC JUST LET ME KNOW,OK.


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Jeff, you say that your carpenter's square is straight. How did you check it? "It's really straight" means nothing to a machinist. If you said, for example, I wiped all the grease and dirt off it and laid it on a gage table and it's within +/- 0.008, that means something. It's a;most as meaningless as the statement, "I have some Tex Spec pickups and they sound really cool." I have no idea what they sound like. But if you tolls me that the spec sheet says the bridge pickup has an impedance of 6.3KHz and a resonant peak at 3.4khz, I have a pretty good idea what that sounds like.
Stew-mac also sells these carbon fibre strips for reinforcing necks. maybe 1/4' wide and 1/2" tall. if the bottom edge is within let's say+/- 0.001 or 1 mil, you really have something. Cheap and far more temperature stable than any metal or wood straight edge.

BTW, why exactly do you have to loosen the strings first? What part of a Fender is so cheaply made that it might break?


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Post subject: SQUARE
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:03 am
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Hello there. Please lets be jentle on me now. I just assumed the square was straight...And also i cut mine off last night at 18" filed it a little and it works great..Texas specials,i have three in my strat and you can't beat them.LOL......

Now about the strings.Sir i'm trying to learn as much as i can from these guys here at fender. I was told by one person to losssen my strings before i adjusted my neck.

I'm trying to find out why my neck isn't moving or doing nothing when i turn the truss rod counter clockwise..

PLEASE GIVE ME YOURE OPPINION ON THIS
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JEFF


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Post subject: LOVE YOU REMARK
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:01 am
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makinson1 wrote:
Jeff, you say that your carpenter's square is straight. How did you check it? "It's really straight" means nothing to a machinist. If you said, for example, I wiped all the grease and dirt off it and laid it on a gage table and it's within +/- 0.008, that means something. It's a;most as meaningless as the statement, "I have some Tex Spec pickups and they sound really cool." I have no idea what they sound like. But if you tolls me that the spec sheet says the bridge pickup has an impedance of 6.3KHz and a resonant peak at 3.4khz, I have a pretty good idea what that sounds like.
Stew-mac also sells these carbon fibre strips for reinforcing necks. maybe 1/4' wide and 1/2" tall. if the bottom edge is within let's say+/- 0.001 or 1 mil, you really have something. Cheap and far more temperature stable than any metal or wood straight edge.

BTW, why exactly do you have to loosen the strings first? What part of a Fender is so cheaply made that it might break?


Ok, since i got some sleep finally i'm gonna read back over this reply that you sent me showing all the random acts of kind words you had in youre heart to say to me,............................
Listen friend, what seems to be youre problem here,have i ever done anything to you?Well Have i? And why are you getting so technical over a straight edge for a guitar neck,huh! You can go to home depot and find things that are better straight edges than stew mac will ever sale. And one more thing,All of us here at " FENDER,COM " are a family. We come here to get away, have fun chatting with friends and most of all ::::::::::::::::::: " HELPING ONE ANOTHER " ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::How in the name of GOD can you tell someone what they said was meaningless when all they were doing were reaching out for help

IF YOURE EVER DROWNING, WOULD YOU WANT A ROPE , OR A TOWEL ?

THINK ABOUT IT
GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURE FAMILY

JEFF


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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:02 am
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makinson1 wrote:
Jeff, you say that your carpenter's square is straight. How did you check it? "It's really straight" means nothing to a machinist. If you said, for example, I wiped all the grease and dirt off it and laid it on a gage table and it's within +/- 0.008, that means something. It's a;most as meaningless as the statement, "I have some Tex Spec pickups and they sound really cool." I have no idea what they sound like. But if you tolls me that the spec sheet says the bridge pickup has an impedance of 6.3KHz and a resonant peak at 3.4khz, I have a pretty good idea what that sounds like.
Stew-mac also sells these carbon fibre strips for reinforcing necks. maybe 1/4' wide and 1/2" tall. if the bottom edge is within let's say+/- 0.001 or 1 mil, you really have something. Cheap and far more temperature stable than any metal or wood straight edge.

BTW, why exactly do you have to loosen the strings first? What part of a Fender is so cheaply made that it might break?


Ok, since i got some sleep finally i'm gonna read back over this reply that you sent me showing all the random acts of kind words you had in youre heart to say to me,............................
Listen friend, what seems to be youre problem here,have i ever done anything to you?Well Have i? And why are you getting so technical over a straight edge for a guitar neck,huh! You can go to home depot and find things that are better straight edges than stew mac will ever sale. And one more thing,All of us here at " FENDER,COM " are a family. We come here to get away, have fun chatting with friends and most of all ::::::::::::::::::: " HELPING ONE ANOTHER " ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::How in the name of GOD can you tell someone what they said was meaningless when all they were doing were reaching out for help

IF YOURE EVER DROWNING, WOULD YOU WANT A ROPE , OR A TOWEL ?

THINK ABOUT IT
GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURE FAMILY

JEFF


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You're doing just fine! Take the hacked of Square (now a straightedge), assuming you've de-burred the amputee end with file, lay the straightedge up against a mirror in the house and if you can't see daylight peaking under it, you probably have a pretty good tool now. BTW, I thought 18" was kinda short, I'd rather see 24"
Now for the test question: what are the TWO reasons for relief on a neck?
The first reason is to make the strings stop buzzing. What's the second?


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Post subject: REPLY
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:14 am
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Man, i'm not understanding you . For one i quit answering test questions back in 97" when i graduated from the navy.

Are you trying to help me or degrade me.
Do you think i do not know anything about setting up a guitar?
Does it take a rocket scientist to know how to make a straight edge..NO..


Now friend,i'm not a little kid,ok. I graduated in 97 with the united states navy seal tem class 167.

So if youre trying to help me ,thank you, but loose the attitude.....

JEFF

QUESTION FOR YOU: YOU LOOSEN THE TRUSS ROD BUT IT DOES NOTHING.
IS IT (A) CAUSED FROM THE TREMELO TENSION SPRINGS.
(B) CAUSED FROM OVER ADJUSTMENT OF THE MICROTILT
(C) STRIPPED TRUS ROD
OR (D) OR CAUSED FROM MEMORY IN NECK


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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:33 am
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makinson1 wrote:
Go to the local Funeral parlor that does cremations and they'll give away bone material for making your own nuts. I got some guy''s femur for $2 and can make hundreds of bone nuts for the price of a Big Mac.



Funeral homes do not hand out or sell human remains. Ever.

Also, human bone burns to ash in cremation.

Also, even if it did survive the burning (whihc it doesn't) most 70-to-80 year old human bone would likely be too brittle for use as nut material.

Also, a human femur isn't big enough to make "hundreds" of bone nuts.

Anything else you care to tell us?


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Now, as to the OP: Unless you are doing fret work (which is why you need expensive, dead-accurate straightedges), then all you need is the feeler gauges and the capo. Because a guitar string capo'ed at the first fret and fretted at the 17th is perfectly straight. You use the string as the straight edge for a set-up.

Save your straight edge money til you feel like leveling your own frets.


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Post subject: TEST QUESTION
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:16 am
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makinson1 wrote:
You're doing just fine! Take the hacked of Square (now a straightedge), assuming you've de-burred the amputee end with file, lay the straightedge up against a mirror in the house and if you can't see daylight peaking under it, you probably have a pretty good tool now. BTW, I thought 18" was kinda short, I'd rather see 24"
Now for the test question: what are the TWO reasons for relief on a neck?
The first reason is to make the strings stop buzzing. What's the second?


Hey man,please don't tell me we're through talking.

I thought you were very smart giving out questions and all, can you not answer my simple questions?

Look man, you degraded me and insulted my intelligence.Im one of the nicest you'll ever meet in your life untill someone does me wrong.


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