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Post subject: Re: DoubleTap Humbuckers wiring configuration
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:07 pm
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CB91710 wrote:
Do you have a multimeter to test it?


Yeah I just tested it. The bottom 4 lugs work but give a reading that isn't 0.00.


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Post subject: Re: DoubleTap Humbuckers wiring configuration
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:11 pm
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But it's also a two way toggle which means 4/6 should be right? and now it reads 0.00 so I guess that's not the problem.


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Post subject: Re: DoubleTap Humbuckers wiring configuration
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:36 pm
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Never mind.

All 6 lugs work.. I just had to flip the switch.

When the black and white wire lugs are touched to the volume pot when grounded, it reads 0.00
When the black and white wire lugs are touched to the volume pot when lifted, it reads 0.395


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Post subject: Re: DoubleTap Humbuckers wiring configuration
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:38 pm
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When the switch is open, you should be reading something around 4-7k between the center lugs on the switch and the pot shell.

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Post subject: Re: DoubleTap Humbuckers wiring configuration
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:49 pm
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CB91710 wrote:
When the switch is open, you should be reading something around 4-7k between the center lugs on the switch and the pot shell.


Negative. Just the 0.395 I mentioned when open.

This is the push/pull pot (2-way) that I mentioned at first. Do you think this wiring would have anything to do with why the other wiring isn't working? I guess my issue is I don't know how to do this wiring to my toggle to a 3-way blade with a volume and single tone. In this diagram it has 2 single coil pickups at the neck and middle and then the humbucker at the bridge with 2 tones and a 5-way blade. The 2nd tone being the push/pull.

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Post subject: Re: DoubleTap Humbuckers wiring configuration
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:19 pm
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Use the Seymour Duncan circuit.
I'm honestly not sure exactly what Fender that circuit does, and I don't have time to trace it out right now.

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Post subject: Re: DoubleTap Humbuckers wiring configuration
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:30 am
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CB91710 wrote:
Use the Seymour Duncan circuit.
I'm honestly not sure exactly what Fender that circuit does, and I don't have time to trace it out right now.


I tried the SD circuit but there was no change whatsoever when flipping the toggle.

I'm sorry that this is so complicated guys. I wish there was more information about these pickups for they literally just came out last week. But thank y'all for trying.

I shot a support ticket to Fender. I don't think there's much else to do. I know all my joints are good and wiring is good. It's just that toggle wiring. Starting to think about sending these back and getting some SD's instead.

If any more theories come in mind, please let me know before I pull the trigger.


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Post subject: Re: DoubleTap Humbuckers wiring configuration
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:57 am
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Just noticed your first photo and pickups have nickel covers so only 1 set of poles exposed so the tap test cannot be done for each coil without removing the covers (don't do that)
Do you have more info regarding them are they the Tim Shaw ones? :D


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Post subject: Re: DoubleTap Humbuckers wiring configuration
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:06 am
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jimmy_james wrote:
Just noticed your first photo and pickups have nickel covers so only 1 set of poles exposed so the tap test cannot be done for each coil without removing the covers (don't do that)
Do you have more info regarding them?


Hmm.. that makes sense.

Unfortunately Fender did not provide much information. Only the wiring diagram. Does not explain what each lead is or what it’s for.


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Post subject: Re: DoubleTap Humbuckers wiring configuration
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:17 am
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If they are he new shaw ones they are not normal humbuckers and all bets are off.
You should still be able to short a coil though.
Wire them according to the diagram that comes with them they are not std fender humbuckers.
In the fender pdf I can see how the coil split happens but in non split mode I cannot see how the red wire completes the cct. Hopefully fender can provide more info :D


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Post subject: Re: DoubleTap Humbuckers wiring configuration
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:24 am
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jimmy_james wrote:
If they are he new shaw ones they are not normal humbuckers and all bets are off.
You should still be able to short a coil though.
Wire them according to the diagram that comes with them they are not std fender humbuckers.
In the fender pdf I can see how the coil split happens but in non split mode I cannot see how the red wire completes the cct. Hopefully fender can provide more info :D


I went ahead and took a cover off.
North has good sound but south is very very weak to no sound both flips of switch.

Yeah they’re the new Shaw ones.

Ughhhhhh...


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Post subject: Re: DoubleTap Humbuckers wiring configuration
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:16 am
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jimmy_james wrote:
Wire them according to the diagram that comes with them they are not std fender humbuckers.

Which means that a separate PP or toggle is needed for each pickup, or a 4PDT toggle.

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Post subject: Re: DoubleTap Humbuckers wiring configuration
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:17 am
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I think the way to proceed is to identify the windings.
I understand one of the coils is tapped part way thru the white being the start and the black being the tap the other coil is the red and green. I could be wrong but check with a meter.
After identifying them I would wire one coil direct to the vol and see what sound you get then the other coil then both so you know what to expect.
Maybe after that short one coil and see what you get.
As I mentioned the diagram is a bit mirky since how is the cct complete with the switch down and the red off the coil going thru the switch but the other end not completing the cct?
I could be misreading it since the scan is a bit unclear.
I see the braid is heatshrunk but cannot see where that goes maybe just to the can? :D


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Post subject: Re: DoubleTap Humbuckers wiring configuration
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:34 pm
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Can someone confirm that this works this way?

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https://www.jpmsupply.com/4PDT-on-on-Miniature-Black-Toggle-Switch-p/70144.htm?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqf3hx5zp4AIVgQNpCh0Y_gXqEAQYASABEgJM3fD_BwE&click=2


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Post subject: Re: DoubleTap Humbuckers wiring configuration
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:54 pm
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Or does it work THIS way?

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https://lovemyswitches.com/4pdt-on-on-switch-solder-lug-long-shaft/


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