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Post subject: Showmaster Parts
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:15 am
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After 12 years, I am looking to modernise my 2006 Showmaster. The problem is the fact that is it 12 years old, and I don't know the specs, so I don't know what parts to buy to replace the old ones.

As for the bridge/tremolo assembly, would Model #: 0077092049 work?

For the tuners, would Model #: 0990818100 or Model #: 0990818500 be the correct replacement?

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Post subject: Re: Showmaster Parts
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:48 am
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Why do you want to replace the tremolo bridge ? A 2006 guitar is not old.

I understand for locking tuner, they are very useful.

About parts number , I don't know


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Post subject: Re: Showmaster Parts
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:28 pm
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I've never seen a parts list with part numbers for Showmasters, and since they were made in Korea, it's very possible even Fender doesn't have those. Still, I'd suggest you try contacting Fender Consumer Relations via the Support pages - and if you get the parts list/ part numbers, post them here.

If you find nothing, you just need to check all critical dimensions of the bridge and tuners you have now, and go from there.


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Post subject: Re: Showmaster Parts
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:44 pm
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jmattis wrote:
I've never seen a parts list with part numbers for Showmasters, and since they were made in Korea, it's very possible even Fender doesn't have those. Still, I'd suggest you try contacting Fender Consumer Relations via the Support pages - and if you get the parts list/ part numbers, post them here.

If you find nothing, you just need to check all critical dimensions of the bridge and tuners you have now, and go from there.



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Post subject: Re: Showmaster Parts
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:10 pm
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I fail to see the need for replacing anything on this guitar.

Unless you just like bright, shiny bling.

Why not try disassembling the bridge and merely cleaning/polishing the components then putting it all back together? Likewise with the tuning machines. As for locking tuners, those would only make sense if the guitar were equipped with a Kahler or Floyd Rose tremolo (ie: the instrument was designed for "dive bombing").

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Post subject: Re: Showmaster Parts
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:13 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
I fail to see the need for replacing anything on this guitar.


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That is what I think.


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Post subject: Re: Showmaster Parts
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:42 am
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Retroverbial wrote:
I fail to see the need for replacing anything on this guitar.

It is not a need. It is a desire to help an old friend get a much-needed new lease on life. And to do so, I want to overhaul it with higher-quality American-made parts, instead of the Chinese-made parts it came stock with.

jmattis wrote:
Still, I'd suggest you try contacting Fender Consumer Relations via the Support pages - and if you get the parts list/ part numbers, post them here.

I already sent Fender an email a few weeks ago, and they have yet to send a response of any kind. Hence why I made a forum thread, hoping someone here might have owned a Showmaster at some point.


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Post subject: Re: Showmaster Parts
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:04 am
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The no-reply probably means your message has disappeared somewhere on the information super highway. These days there is an automated instant reply, and they've answered all my (trivial) questions in less than a week - even if it's just the rare sorry, can't help answer.
Try again, consumerrelations@fender.com or use the wonderful chat service on support pages, open on US business hours.

BTW, I find Arjay's interpretation of "don't fix it if it ain't broke" wise and sensible. Chinese parts, Korean instrument or not, it's original as it is.


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Post subject: Re: Showmaster Parts
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:06 am
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Lindale FF wrote:
Retroverbial wrote:
I fail to see the need for replacing anything on this guitar.

It is not a need. It is a desire to help an old friend get a much-needed new lease on life. And to do so, I want to overhaul it with higher-quality American-made parts, instead of the Chinese-made parts it came stock with.



jmattis wrote:
Still, I'd suggest you try contacting Fender Consumer Relations via the Support pages - and if you get the parts list/ part numbers, post them here.

I already sent Fender an email a few weeks ago, and they have yet to send a response of any kind. Hence why I made a forum thread, hoping someone here might have owned a Showmaster at some point.


If original parts work fine, I don't understand.
You must find your guitars parts measurements ; not easy for Korean made ( not Chinese) Guitar
Look at Stew Mac for measurements

https://www.stewmac.com/Hardware_and_Pa ... /Tremolos/

Or guitar need a set-up you can't do and you think is because of the tuning machines and the bridge ?


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Post subject: Re: Showmaster Parts
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:16 am
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jmattis wrote:


BTW, I find Arjay's interpretation of "don't fix it if it ain't broke" wise and sensible. Chinese parts, Korean instrument or not, it's original as it is.



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Post subject: Re: Showmaster Parts
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:05 am
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Or guitar need a set-up you can't do and you think is because of the tuning machines and the bridge ?

For the tuners, yes. They no longer hold tune. At most, I can play a few songs before they go out of tune again. They are no match for the Hipshot Griplock tuners I have on my Chapman, or the Fender locking tuners on the American Elite Telecaster Thinline.

As for the tremolo, no. It is simply a matter of switching stuff for higher-quality. For example, your old guitar has a Chinese-made Floyd Rose with a block made of pot metal, and you replace it with an Original Floyd with a brass or titanium block. Same thing here. I am replacing Chinese-made parts with American-made parts.

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The no-reply probably means your message has disappeared somewhere on the information super highway. These days there is an automated instant reply, and they've answered all my (trivial) questions in less than a week - even if it's just the rare sorry, can't help answer.
Try again, consumerrelations@fender.com or use the wonderful chat service on support pages, open on US business hours.

I will do that on my day off then.

jmattis wrote:
BTW, I find Arjay's interpretation of "don't fix it if it ain't broke" wise and sensible. Chinese parts, Korean instrument or not, it's original as it is.

I tend to disagree on that. If it was American-made, the financial value indeed would be in leaving it stock. A 60s Fender or Les Paul would be worth mortgage money today, but only if it is in factory condition, and with all the original parts. However, an Asian-made guitar will never be worth more than you paid for it in the first place, which means you do have the freedom to upgrade all the hardware, or modify the guitar itself it to within an inch of its life.


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Post subject: Re: Showmaster Parts
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:23 am
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Lindale FF wrote:
stratele52 wrote:
Or guitar need a set-up you can't do and you think is because of the tuning machines and the bridge ?

For the tuners, yes. They no longer hold tune. At most, I can play a few songs before they go out of tune again. .


Where is the proof it is the tuner ?

it could be the nut, the neck with a loose truss rod, check all nut and screw on the tuning machines where are the string post.


No answer on the forum ?

Tuner are easy to replace and cheap. Read post hole diameter and order a set on Stew Mac

Tremolo bridge; you may not hear a difference with a better one.
You will have to measure yourself your tremolo bridge and look at Stew mac. They show mesure.


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Post subject: Re: Showmaster Parts
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:54 pm
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Lindale FF wrote:
jmattis wrote:
BTW, I find Arjay's interpretation of "don't fix it if it ain't broke" wise and sensible. Chinese parts, Korean instrument or not, it's original as it is.

I tend to disagree on that. If it was American-made, the financial value indeed would be in leaving it stock. A 60s Fender or Les Paul would be worth mortgage money today, but only if it is in factory condition, and with all the original parts. However, an Asian-made guitar will never be worth more than you paid for it in the first place, which means you do have the freedom to upgrade all the hardware, or modify the guitar itself it to within an inch of its life.

Just to clarify things…
First, I think of 'originality' as a value itself; not in relation to monetary value. Especially if the model is rare.
And second, I agree that as the owner of the instrument, you have absolutely every right to mod it as you please. But on a public forum, there will be different opinions on do-or-don't and this-way-or-that; that's the 'nature of the beast' if you will. I'm not trying to start an argument, I'm just reminding to consider every angle.


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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:37 pm
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jmattis wrote:
Lindale FF wrote:
jmattis wrote:
BTW, I find Arjay's interpretation of "don't fix it if it ain't broke" wise and sensible. Chinese parts, Korean instrument or not, it's original as it is.

I tend to disagree on that. If it was American-made, the financial value indeed would be in leaving it stock. A 60s Fender or Les Paul would be worth mortgage money today, but only if it is in factory condition, and with all the original parts. However, an Asian-made guitar will never be worth more than you paid for it in the first place, which means you do have the freedom to upgrade all the hardware, or modify the guitar itself it to within an inch of its life.

Just to clarify things…
First, I think of 'originality' as a value itself; not in relation to monetary value. Especially if the model is rare.
And second, I agree that as the owner of the instrument, you have absolutely every right to mod it as you please. But on a public forum, there will be different opinions on do-or-don't and this-way-or-that; that's the 'nature of the beast' if you will. I'm not trying to start an argument, I'm just reminding to consider every angle.



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Post subject: Re: Showmaster Parts
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:44 pm
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If the tuners are indeed hosed, then yes -- by all means replace them. But be certain of the diagnosis before you start disassembling things. If the guitar cannot perform its intended purpose then it's good for nothing more than room decor hanging on a wall.

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