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Post subject: Re: Shawbucker 1T & 2T pickups
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:59 pm
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tonalrandy wrote:
Shawbuckers they are !! Is there any advantage to the offset pole screw adjustments vs in line ?

It's the way Fender made the Wide Range and became a bit of a signature thing.
Really no major advantage.

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Post subject: Re: Shawbucker 1T & 2T pickups
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:07 am
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One thing to note on the Troublemaker is, they used a PCB for the treble bleed. Seems to me it has the same components (C1, R1, R2) as the regular point-to-point "Akimod" style system, but the values aren't in the diagram. The PCB is probably a bit cheaper to manufacture & especially install.
That PCB treble bleed has (AFAIK) previously been used only on a couple of AmPro Limited Edition models since 2017.


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Post subject: Re: Shawbucker 1T & 2T pickups
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:40 am
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jmattis wrote:
One thing to note on the Troublemaker is, they used a PCB for the treble bleed. Seems to me it has the same components (C1, R1, R2) as the regular point-to-point "Akimod" style system, but the values aren't in the diagram. The PCB is probably a bit cheaper to manufacture & especially install.

More than "a bit" cheaper... they can mass-produce 10,000 of those on a wave soldering rig on their amplifier production line in an hour, leaving the production line person with only two connections and a spot of double-sided tape, rather than having to assemble the RC network.
Makes me think they are possibly planning to make this a standard feature. Burning a new PCB template and inventorying surface mount components just for the Troublemaker would be the kind of thing that could cost a production engineer his bonus.

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Post subject: Re: Shawbucker 1T & 2T pickups
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:59 am
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A couple of things.... regarding the PCB vs the "Akimod" regular point-to-point (C1, R1, R2) style system. Which sounds better? If the point to point sounds better can I have my guitar modded do this config? Do these shawbuckers require the PCB ?

Also... I've noticed that these pickups are quite microphonic when I drop my pick against them when I'm playing. Anything besides better technique that will solve this problem ?


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Post subject: Re: Shawbucker 1T & 2T pickups
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:08 pm
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tonalrandy wrote:
A couple of things.... regarding the PCB vs the "Akimod" regular point-to-point (C1, R1, R2) style system. Which sounds better? If the point to point sounds better can I have my guitar modded do this config? Do these shawbuckers require the PCB ?

The sound is influenced only by the values of the components.
Not knowing what values they used on the PCB, there's no way to know how the tone will vary compared to P2P.
OTOH, the treble bleed is not universal on Fender guitars, it may be to offset the 250k tone pots they opted to use, rather than the 500k tone pots normally found on Gibson guitars.
The Shawbuckers certainly don't require the treble bleed, the circuit is likely there because Fender players are *generally* used to brighter tone, and even with the 500k volume pots, humbuckers don't quite have the "Fender Sparkle"

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Post subject: Re: Shawbucker 1T & 2T pickups
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:57 am
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So.... really curious about this treble bleed circuit. Is there a way to bypass it and hear this guitar without the PCB treble bleed circuit ?

Also, what about my microphonic issue ? I know better playing technique could solve the problem but I occasionally hit the neck pickup with my pick. It's gonna' happen. I would like the pickup to not be so sensitive to this problem.

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Post subject: Re: Shawbucker 1T & 2T pickups
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:49 am
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How microphonic are they? Can you speak through them and get somewhat clear voice output from your amplifier? Every pickup will ring some if they are struck w/ an object, microphonic pups will howl(feedback) to some extent.
You could try them w/o covers, may help slightly if they are creating the issue. Otherwise microphonic pickups IMO would be a reasonable issue to report under warranty and have them replaced.


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Post subject: Re: Shawbucker 1T & 2T pickups
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:45 am
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No, it's nothing near to that point. They just show my pick handling deficiency of when I "drop" the pick on to the cover when I'm playing. I was hoping for an "adjustment" on the pickups instead of an "adjustment" to my strumming technique.

I am interested in listening to these treble bleed PCB's bypassed. Possible ?

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Post subject: Re: Shawbucker 1T & 2T pickups
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:42 pm
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On that pick hit sound; pickups can even be tested by tapping them - so that's quite normal.
Besides improving your pick tech, you could check & adjust the pickup height.

tonalrandy wrote:
I am interested in listening to these treble bleed PCB's bypassed. Possible?

Not really - they are soldered to the pot and so a bypass would mean desoldering. But you can take some comfort in that Mr. Shaw describes the treble bleed as "voiced for" the pickup.
Anyways, it's usually beneficial if you give yourself, your new guitar and your other gear sufficient time to get accustomed to each other before doing any major mods.


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