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Post subject: Need help identifying pickups! Please help!
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:10 am
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Hello!

I have two pickups (I've been told that they are made by Fender), but I just can't identify what kind or year they belong to. They are both South polarity - clockwise wounded, and one with grey bottom is around 6k, and the other with black bottom is 6.42k.
Grey bottom pickup has a stamp on the bottom with blured numbers that look like 53179

https://imgur.com/n9d1Qc7
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https://imgur.com/jOhht9o

If you have any idea, or any information about these pickups, please share your info!
Thanks in advance!


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Post subject: Re: Need help identifying pickups! Please help!
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:29 pm
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Really no good way to tell positively...
https://ourpastimes.com/how-to-date-fen ... 97946.html
https://www.theguitarmagazine.com/featu ... r-pickups/
https://www.strat-central.com/70sstrats/

Best case, we know they were both made before 1980 (when they went to plastic), OR they are modern reproductions of the pre-1980 design, but most modern "vintage style" pickups use cloth pushback insulation.

Grey vs black... there's a lot of information out there that is conflicting, most claiming that black stopped in '64, then came back in '71 (grey got "darker")... but I've found plenty of examples of '74 and later with grey bobbins.
The enamel insulation is consistent with later enamel-insulated windings.
53179 could be 1969 or 1979... but black/red would not be a normal color for the leads (unless it was changed). Black/white and yellow/white would be expected.

Beveled edges on the magnets would normally indicate an earlier build... but it looks like only the D and G are beveled???

But there is no guarantee that they are Fender products.

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Post subject: Re: Need help identifying pickups! Please help!
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:18 pm
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Looking the two wires Red and black from the pickups look budget pickups to me.

Fender ? I don't know. If yes they may come from a Squier or any other budget guitar

Good Fender pickups I see, always have black and white wires.

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Post subject: Re: Need help identifying pickups! Please help!
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:58 pm
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stratele52 wrote:
Looking the two wires Red and black from the pickups look budget pickups to me.

Fender ? I don't know. If yes they may come from a Squier or any other budget guitar

Good Fender pickups I see, always have black and white wires.



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Post subject: Re: Need help identifying pickups! Please help!
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:28 am
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stratele52 wrote:
Good Fender pickups I see, always have black and white wires.


Fender's reverse-wound middle pickups (as found in the Fat 50's set and others) feature yellow/black lead-in wires.

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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:02 pm
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And there was a period when American Series Strats went multicolor - IIRC, blue/white (neck) red/white (middle) and yellow/white (bridge) wires.

It's always expect the unexpected with Fender, but with the pickups of this topic, I'll agree with the "really no good way to tell positively" statement.

I'd stop worrying about what they are, and judge the pups on how they sound. (I may have written that sentence a couple of times before…)


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Post subject: Re: Need help identifying pickups! Please help!
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:12 pm
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jmattis wrote:
And there was a period when American Series Strats went multicolor - IIRC, blue/white (neck) red/white (middle) and yellow/white (bridge) wires.

Isn't that how the Laces were set up?
I bought the set of Gold Laces when a buddy upgraded his Plus to Red/Silver/Blue Laces and I seem to remember the wire color was different for each?

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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:27 pm
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CB91710 wrote:
jmattis wrote:
And there was a period when American Series Strats went multicolor - IIRC, blue/white (neck) red/white (middle) and yellow/white (bridge) wires.

Isn't that how the Laces were set up?
I bought the set of Gold Laces when a buddy upgraded his Plus to Red/Silver/Blue Laces and I seem to remember the wire color was different for each?


Yes Lace use red, white, green and black wire.

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Post subject: Re: Need help identifying pickups! Please help!
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:10 am
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On a Strat Plus, the Laces had orange/white on all three.
So once more, expect the unexpected on a Fender. (And yes, I know Lace Fender.) :lol:


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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:21 am
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jmattis wrote:
(And yes, I know Lace Fender.) :lol:

Well.. they were factory, so....

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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:31 pm
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It's pretty obvious that the pickups in question are NOT Lace Sensors so what's with all the wasted bandwidth on such academic discourse?

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Post subject: Re: Need help identifying pickups! Please help!
Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:55 am
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Retroverbial wrote:
wasted bandwidth

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