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Post subject: Acoustasonic Tele - String Change
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:41 am
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Love the guitar, but string changes are an adventure in pegs.

I cannot get the pegs all the way down (flush) on most strings.
1st (E) and 2nd (B) seem to be the only strings I can get close to flush. The rest vary in height.

I use nanoweb acoustic strings - 11 - if that matters.

Also - for the life of me - I can never get the low E (6th) string peg out without having to use pliers - no matter what. It's crazy annoying. The low E is also the worst with peg height.

From the factory - the pegs are all flush with the guitar. There is no way I'm ever going to get it that way again unless i use a hammer... I guess. That is crazy.

Is anyone else having issues like this?

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Post subject: Re: Acoustasonic Tele - String Change
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:38 am
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Post subject: Re: Acoustasonic Tele - String Change
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:45 am
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Do you make a bend on the string, beside the ball end, before pushing the peg in?
Anyways, the problem must have something to do with your stringing habits - google for instructions and check your procedures against them.
The pegs are not too loose, since you need the pliers - and I'd suggest using a proper bridge pin remover tool. Pliers will eventually damage the pins.


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Post subject: Re: Acoustasonic Tele - String Change
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:53 am
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jmattis wrote:


Anyways, the problem must have something to do with your stringing habits - .



100 % right


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Post subject: Re: Acoustasonic Tele - String Change
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:21 pm
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Are the Acoustasonic Tele Graphtech pins gage specific-slotted?
That could be an issue if you mixed up the order/string each one goes with.
Otherwise I agree, improve your string loading technique and ensure you don't damage the bridge.
On my regular acoustic six string once I settle on a string gage, I modify my pins- sand to a taper for better fit.
It works for me and probably will for you.


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Post subject: Re: Acoustasonic Tele - String Change
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:04 am
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sfceric64 wrote:
Are the Acoustasonic Tele Graphtech pins gage specific-slotted?

Good idea, but I don't think they are.
The regular GT pins/pegs come in packs of 10, all similar to each other. And knowing Fender's costs saving policy, I really don't think they ordered a custom version. BTW, such a custom part would be F-labeled, octuple priced and not available except as a warranty replacement... :mrgreen:

I don't gauge pin grooves myself. But I do fit pins/holes to eachother as well as possible - and I reshape (or make, if there isn't one) the little groove on the saddleside of the pin hole. With my playing skills, probably doesn't matter, but OCD etc.


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Post subject: Re: Acoustasonic Tele - String Change
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:46 am
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BTW, such a custom part would be F-labeled, octuple priced and not available except as a warranty replacement...
Yeah, ain't that the truth.
Looked at the GT webpage this morning, they advise sanding for a proper fit as well. Anytime the pins don't sit flush there is a chance of the ball end slipping past the pin end and damaging the underside of the bridge.
Personally, always wondered why there weren't slotted bottoms on the pins to trap the ball or a string through pin design.


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Post subject: Re: Acoustasonic Tele - String Change
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:22 am
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Late to this party but..

It's normal, please don't use excessive force to push these pins in.

All they need to do is hold the string, the even look/aesthetics of this are meaningless.


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Post subject: Re: Acoustasonic Tele - String Change
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:11 pm
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sfceric64 wrote:
Personally, always wondered why there weren't slotted bottoms on the pins to trap the ball or a string through pin design.

I don't get what you mean there - the ball end is supposed to rest against the bottom of the bridge, not against the pin end. Besides, most pins reach way below the bridge bottom.


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Post subject: Re: Acoustasonic Tele - String Change
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:13 am
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jmattis wrote:
I don't gauge pin grooves myself. But I do fit pins/holes to each other as well as possible - and I reshape (or make, if there isn't one) the little groove on the saddleside of the pin hole.
Me too.
cBrou, are you making sure the pin grooves are facing the bridge, AND rolling the ball up the groove? I'm not trying to insult anyone's intelligence; but there is only one way to properly seat a string against a pin. I've never had a problem with staggered pin height as long as I roll the ball up the pin groove, and keep pressing the pin in as I tune it...and I've put 13's on a guitar that came with 10's using the factory pins.


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Post subject: Re: Acoustasonic Tele - String Change
Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 10:19 am
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get yourself a bridge pin puller. When you reinstall the pins, use the flat side of the puller to push the pin back in. Push until it feels snug. As long as the pin doesn't pop out when you put tension on the string, it's fine. As Kidblast said, the even look/aesthetics of this are meaningless. IMO, you shouldn't push hard with a pair of pliers to make it even.

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Post subject: Re: Acoustasonic Tele - String Change
Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 9:59 pm
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Thanks for all the feedback - sorry for the late reply....

I'm now four shows and and 3 string changes into this guitar. Settling in on 12 gauge custom nano strings.
Have any of you guys actually changed strings on the Acoustasonic Tele? There is very little room to play in the body. The bridge is solid EBONY.

The PEGS are still an issue. Can't get the low E out at all without pliers still and will never get D A or low E flush. The guitar uses GraphTech Tusq bridge pins.

I'm not a guitar technician by any means, but have been changing acoustic strings for 25+ years. Have never had this issue. Maybe they are custom and dummy me... mixed them up from string change #1?

Using pliers to get the E out really is bad. I place a rag on it first but that never works. Will probably take guitar to a luthier for some slight sanding.

It's really a pleasure to play in rotation with my Gibson J-15.


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Post subject: Re: Acoustasonic Tele - String Change
Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 2:23 am
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cBrou wrote:
From the factory - the pegs are all flush with the guitar.
I read that as "the guitar is OK".
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cBrou wrote:
Will probably take guitar to a luthier for some slight sanding.
Instead of working the bridge holes, might be better to adjust the bridge pins to fit the strings/holes/your stringing procedure.


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Post subject: Re: Acoustasonic Tele - String Change
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 7:59 am
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cBrou wrote:
Have any of you guys actually changed strings on the Acoustasonic Tele? There is very little room to play in the body. The bridge is solid EBONY.

no, but if it looks like this, I don't see why the bridge pin puller wouldn't work (pic above).

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If you're worried about scratching the bridge with that kind of pin puller (really shouldn't be a problem) there is this kind:

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Post subject: Re: Acoustasonic Tele - String Change
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 8:09 am
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Thanks. I'll try the pin-puller and report back. Got one on order from Amazon.


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