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Post subject: Bridge for jazz bass
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:40 am
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I recently purchased a Squier Vintage Modified 70's Jazz bass.
What a fantastic bass guitar!
I chose to put Fender flat wound strings on it and was easily able set up the guitar.
My minor gripe is with the bridge.
Will the bridge installed on the Squier Classic Vibe 60's Jazz bass easily retrofit to to a Squier Vintage Modified 70's Jazz bass?
If so, Is it worth the extra expense and effort?


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Post subject: Re: Bridge for jazz bass
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:28 am
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Yes it will fit. The Squier Classic Vibe 60's Jazz bass has the high mass bridge white the Vintage Mod one has the vintage design. Both are 5 screw mount. No problem swapping.


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Post subject: Re: Bridge for jazz bass
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:02 am
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Thank you brotherdave for the info.
There is probably little effect on the sound of the bass with the replacement of the stock bridge but I like the idea of having a bridge that has guides for the saddle height adjustment screws and I like the look of the CV 60's bridge.


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Post subject: Re: Bridge for jazz bass
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:17 pm
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The only problem with the guide channels is that it limits the saddle travel a tad for intonation adjustment. So yes it will fit, but you'll have a slightly more limited intonation range. There isn't that much lateral saddle movement on the original vintage bridge design without the guide channels unless you get extremely heavy handed on the strings when playing finger-style. The main benefits in this swap are higher mass for a little more sustain and obviously more lateral stability. It is a nicer bridge, but be aware that it limits saddle travel in more ways than one.


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Post subject: Re: Bridge for jazz bass
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:08 pm
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Not to derail or highjack this thread, but I had a question for Brother Dave on another Hi Mass Fender bridge I was considering. Brother Dave, what is your take on this bridge:

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It is the Deluxe High Mass bridge that comes on the Blacktop models. I have a Squier P Bass Special that I was considering upgrading the bridge on. This would be for harder rock/80's music. I have had difficulty in finding reviews for this particular bridge and was curious if you have any info/feedback on it. I appreciate any assistance you can give.

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Post subject: Re: Bridge for jazz bass
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:58 am
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Looks like a cross between Schaller and Gotoh doesn't it?

Like the discontinued Deluxe bridge it has short saddle travel. The original Deluxe had the shortest travel of any non-fixed bass bridge I've ever seen. Nice bridge but short travel. I like the channels but they should be longer. You are sort of locked into using stock gauge strings with shorter saddle travel.

Here's the Gotoh 201 for comparison. It is almost identical but the intonation adjusting screws are longer and poke out the end instead of being recessed as on the Fender. I still think Gotoh is making the Fender one though.

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Post subject: Re: Bridge for jazz bass
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:17 am
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Thanks once again brotherdave for the information regarding the CV 60's Jazz bass bridge. Still like the CV bridge but maybe best to keep the VM 70's Jazz bass as issued until I run into an issue. For the money, I think the bass is a good one.


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Post subject: Re: Bridge for jazz bass
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:29 pm
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Brother Dave- What gauge strings would require more saddle travel that what is offered on those bridges?

I never considered this an issue but maybe I never had a bridge/string combo that called for that much of a difference in intonation.

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Post subject: Re: Bridge for jazz bass
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:54 pm
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@BCBASSMAN: I like to keep really light flats like the GHS 3025's or Ernie Ball 2808's on one instrument at all times. As of now that instrument is one of my 51 Reissues. Preferably the GHS 3025's. But neither of those extra light flat sets will intonate for me on the discontinued Fender Deluxe 3 screw bridge that has the short channel guides. That GHS set is lighter bottomed at .045, .065, .075, .095 and neither I nor my tech can get the E and A string to intonate past the 12th fret. Same was true on the brighter topped D & G string of the Ernie Ball 2808's which are .040, .060, .070, .095. The tech even shimmed the neck which helped only a tad. So no dice for me with extra light rounds. The only solution was larger E and A strings or a different bridge, so I went all the way to extra fat GHS 3050 Regulars on it for a few while before eventually changing to a Leo Quan bridge (regrettable decision) and putting the extra lights on that instrument permanently instead of a passive Ibanez P/J I used the extra light flats on in the interim, but I just never really liked those strings on that bass much. Just goes to show how some instruments work better with one string set than another.

If you've never tried extra light flats I recommend them for fusion funk stuff that sounds more polished than any round. They are way different than the Motownish boom of what most people consider flatwound tone. I don't like the Chris Squire Rickenbacker clank except when he plays it, and the extra light flats sound more like the TI Jazz Flats when they are fresh but due their higher tension you can play them far more aggressively than the TI JF344's. The GHS 3025's play better than rounds because you can set them up lower since they don't vibrate as wildly due slightly higher tension. Extra light flats are way fun and I try to keep a set on one bass at all times. Good for flashy type play, but not much good for boom boom of doom or for pick play. I prefer the thinner yet fundamental bottom of the GHS 3025 set to the brighter top of the EB 2808's. They both sound really in your face funky but I think the GHS set sounds better balanced and refined under my fingers. Your mileage may vary and the EB 2808 is certainly a good set also, just right now my second choice for an extra light flat.


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