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Post subject: Which neck shape?
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:02 am
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Hi, I have a squier telecaster from the affinity series made in china in 2010... I just want to know which neck shape is on this guitar :?: if anyone have info about it :!:

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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:06 pm
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Post subject: Re: Which neck shape?
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:13 pm
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Thanks bluesky!! I thought it was a C shape but I have no expirience on that hehe!!

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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:42 am
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Now... 9.5 radius!?

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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:24 am
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Post subject: Re: Which neck shape?
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:55 pm
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A+ bluesky! :lol:


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Post subject: Re: Which neck shape?
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:22 pm
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bluesky!? can you tell me the color of the shirt the guy who set up the guitar in the factory :!: :?: :P :lol:

hehe!! I think he knows everything about fender! :P

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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:21 am
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gugusfu wrote:
bluesky!? can you tell me the color of the shirt the guy who set up the guitar in the factory :!: :?: :P :lol:

hehe!! I think he knows everything about fender! :P

It was sky blue pink with yellow spots :D

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Post subject: Re: Which neck shape?
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:35 pm
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I have to say, those are two things I have never asked, or cared to know when purchasing an instrument. Color and looks would influence my decision much more than neck shape or fretboard radius. In fact, those are two things I don't need to know or ever consider at all.


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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:18 pm
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alfunkz wrote:
gugusfu wrote:
bluesky!? can you tell me the color of the shirt the guy who set up the guitar in the factory :!: :?: :P :lol:

hehe!! I think he knows everything about fender! :P

It was sky blue pink with yellow spots :D




I think you're right!!! hahahaha!!

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Post subject: Re: Which neck shape?
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:12 am
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howardo wrote:
I have to say, those are two things I have never asked, or cared to know when purchasing an instrument. Color and looks would influence my decision much more than neck shape or fretboard radius. In fact, those are two things I don't need to know or ever consider at all.



Not to be rude, but you have that completely backwards! The neck shape and radius are the primary things that contribute to the FEEL of the instrument. If the instrument doesn't feel good in your hands, it doesn't matter how pretty it looks, you're not going to be inspired to play it. With something like a Strat or a Tele (or most electrics really), changing the sound is easy enough by changing pickups and even refinishing a guitar isn't out of the realm of possibility (although rather expensive for those who don't know how to do it properly themselves), however feel...particularly the feel of the neck...that's something you have to live with.

Ok...yea...I've been playing for over 30 years now, but I am -VERY- fussy about neck shapes and the feel of the instrument. A great example is this Fender "Squier Series" I recently picked up (not to be confused with a "Squier"). When I first looked at the guitar, my initial impulse was to tell the guy no. The guitar had rather cheap import hardware and it was just this horrid sea-sick green...looked like someone puked on it then tried to wipe it off. Then I played it...felt like an "old friend" from the moment I wrapped my fingers around that neck! So yea...I took her home. She's already been upgraded with better hardware and she's going to be refinished in Graffiti Yellow later this summer (although I am considering a natural or stained finish as well...will kind of depend on what I find once I strip that puke green off)...and I've already used that instrument at the last two shows! Likewise, I have a Lite Ash Strat that I also recently aquired. I particularly like the looks of this instrument because it's nearly a perfect match for an old P-bass clone I've had for many years. Excellent instrument...beautiful workmanship, quality hardware, etc., etc.. BUT - I -hate- the neck on this thing. Feels like a cross between a C and a V...rather chunky with a big ol' ridge right down the back of it...drive me nuts and throw my playing off every time. So yea...after only having her for a few weeks, that one is already listed on Craigslist for trade.

I can't really fault someone for wanting their instrument to look nice...I always strive to take the best care of my instruments that I can, but I'm a guitar player...the FIRST thing I consider is how the guitar feels as well as how it sounds (and again sound is usually easy enough to change). If the feel isn't there FIRST, then it does NOT matter how nice it looks, as that feel is going to affect my playing...every time. Think of it this way; you can have the shiniest, prettiest car on your street but if the engine don't run, it's not going to get you from point A to point B. Form always needs to follow function...if the function isn't there, then the form is simply irrelevant.

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Post subject: Re: Which neck shape?
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:42 am
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lomitus wrote:
howardo wrote:
I have to say, those are two things I have never asked, or cared to know when purchasing an instrument. Color and looks would influence my decision much more than neck shape or fretboard radius. In fact, those are two things I don't need to know or ever consider at all.



Not to be rude, but you have that completely backwards! The neck shape and radius are the primary things that contribute to the FEEL of the instrument. If the instrument doesn't feel good in your hands, it doesn't matter how pretty it looks, you're not going to be inspired to play it. With something like a Strat or a Tele (or most electrics really), changing the sound is easy enough by changing pickups and even refinishing a guitar isn't out of the realm of possibility (although rather expensive for those who don't know how to do it properly themselves), however feel...particularly the feel of the neck...that's something you have to live with.

Ok...yea...I've been playing for over 30 years now, but I am -VERY- fussy about neck shapes and the feel of the instrument. A great example is this Fender "Squier Series" I recently picked up (not to be confused with a "Squier"). When I first looked at the guitar, my initial impulse was to tell the guy no. The guitar had rather cheap import hardware and it was just this horrid sea-sick green...looked like someone puked on it then tried to wipe it off. Then I played it...felt like an "old friend" from the moment I wrapped my fingers around that neck! So yea...I took her home. She's already been upgraded with better hardware and she's going to be refinished in Graffiti Yellow later this summer (although I am considering a natural or stained finish as well...will kind of depend on what I find once I strip that puke green off)...and I've already used that instrument at the last two shows! Likewise, I have a Lite Ash Strat that I also recently aquired. I particularly like the looks of this instrument because it's nearly a perfect match for an old P-bass clone I've had for many years. Excellent instrument...beautiful workmanship, quality hardware, etc., etc.. BUT - I -hate- the neck on this thing. Feels like a cross between a C and a V...rather chunky with a big ol' ridge right down the back of it...drive me nuts and throw my playing off every time. So yea...after only having her for a few weeks, that one is already listed on Craigslist for trade.

I can't really fault someone for wanting their instrument to look nice...I always strive to take the best care of my instruments that I can, but I'm a guitar player...the FIRST thing I consider is how the guitar feels as well as how it sounds (and again sound is usually easy enough to change). If the feel isn't there FIRST, then it does NOT matter how nice it looks, as that feel is going to affect my playing...every time. Think of it this way; you can have the shiniest, prettiest car on your street but if the engine don't run, it's not going to get you from point A to point B. Form always needs to follow function...if the function isn't there, then the form is simply irrelevant.

Just my own personal opinion.
Jim


I think what howardo was trying to say is that he doesn't have a preference on neck shape and radius, if that is the case then i am sure it wouldn't be your main reason for choice of guitar, lets face it even 2 guitars with the same shape and radius can feel completely different to one and other.

I really don't think he was implying that the shape and radius doesn't matter at all, and considering the original question is from a beginner, i would say that the shape and radius doesn't matter to you right now just as long as it feels comfortable enough for you to want to play it for an hour or so each evening.

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Post subject: Re: Which neck shape?
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:51 pm
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alfunkz wrote:
I think what howardo was trying to say is that he doesn't have a preference on neck shape and radius, if that is the case then i am sure it wouldn't be your main reason for choice of guitar, lets face it even 2 guitars with the same shape and radius can feel completely different to one and other.

I really don't think he was implying that the shape and radius doesn't matter at all, and considering the original question is from a beginner, i would say that the shape and radius doesn't matter to you right now just as long as it feels comfortable enough for you to want to play it for an hour or so each evening.


I mean no offense here but even to a beginner, I think it's a good idea to learn about. If for no other reason, should a person find that neck that does feel comfortable and such, wouldn't it be nice to know what that shape and radius is next time you go looking for another? Let's say I'm a complete noob to guitars. I went into a Guitar Center with a friend and noodled around on 7 or 8 guitars and found one that I really liked that I could actually afford...we'll say a Squier Affinity Strat as an example. Now let's say that it's 5 years later...I've been practicing regularly, I have a better job (or at least a girlfriend or wife to support my sorry butt!) and I'm ready for my next guitar. Sure, it would be in my best interest to play as many guitars in my price range, but if I -really- liked the neck on that Affinity, might it not make that search a bit easier knowing the neck shape and radius so that I can look for the same in my next guitar?

You are absolutely correct in that each and every guitar and neck does have it's own character, however it seems to me that if a person finds a neck they really like...say a C shape with a 7 1/2" radius, it will make it that much easier to find similar or better later down the road. Likewise, if they play a guitar with a 12" radius or something, it would also help a newbie to understand -why- they feel different, yes? And what's more, isn't that feel -FAR- more important than how the guitar "looks"?

Howardo there said specifically "Color and looks would influence my decision much more than neck shape or fretboard radius" and this is what my comments were directed at. Sure, I like a "pretty face" too, but if it don't feel right, again a person isn't going to want to play it. I think Les Pauls are VERY lovely instruments...I don't have a single one in my collection because I -HATE- the way the feel! Aside from the neck radius and such, they're bulky, heavy and rather cumbersome. Why should I give a ratts butt about what it looks like if I'm not going to be able to play it? As such, wouldn't understanding those differences be beneficial to -anyone-, let alone to a person just learning this stuff?

I'm sorry if this offends but I have to stand firmly by my original comments there...form follows function. If the function isn't there, then the form is irrelevant. Looks may indeed be what catches the eye, but the FIRST consideration should always be how the guitar -feels-...and a great part of that feel is indeed based on neck shapes, radius, etc., etc..

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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:33 pm
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5 years on you should have learnt a little about that sort of thing anyway, i'm not trying to disagree with you at all, but some people can be happy with any shape/radius and it really doesn't matter to them, that to me just means that you have an even greater gift.

But as a complete beginner there is no real need to make things more complicated than they are, i happen to have spoken to howardo a few times and his playing experience is vast so he is talking from experince, we all have our ways and that is his.

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alfunkz wrote:
But as a complete beginner there is no real need to make things more complicated than they are...

5 years on you should have learnt a little about that sort of thing anyway



So then how does one get that experience? Doesn't that experience have to come from somewhere at sometime? The OP asked what seems to be some rather intelligent questions regarding his instrument and seems to be a noob...was that wrong?

The seller asked questions about neck and radius. Howardo's reply was "...those are two things I have never asked, or cared to know when purchasing an instrument. Color and looks would influence my decision much more than neck shape or fretboard radius...." I'm sorry but there doesn't seem to be any room for ambiguity there AT ALL.

My sole point in regards to howardo's comment was that when it comes to playing guitars, there are some things that are, or at least SHOULD be, more important than looks. I'm sorry but I will NOT back down from that idea. If a person...even a complete newbie, let alone someone who's experience is "vast"...if a person is buying a guitar exclusively or primarily based on how it looks, then I'm sorry, they're concerned with the -wrong- thing. I've already explained my reasoning for this and I'm sorry but I will NOT back down from it.

You're welcome to your opinions...those are simply mine.
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