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Post subject: Can Squier necks take size 11 strings?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:13 am
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I bought a Squier telecaster off eBay (i don't remember which, but it's a blond with string through body and rosewood neck). I've fixed it up a bit, but when I took it to my luthier, he said the neck couldn't take 11s, so he put 10s on it. Well, now the neck is bending even with the 10s and the action is way too high. I'd prefer 11s anyway, so I'm looking to replace the neck with another Squier neck (off a Vintage Modified Thinline Telecaster). But before I do so, I want to make sure that there's no inherent reason that Squiers can't take 11s. I assume this shouldn't be a problem and I just got one with a bum neck.

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Post subject: Re: Can Squier necks take size 11 strings?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:30 pm
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Go to see a real luthier .
I doubt the guy you were seeing is a luthier. It is impossible that your guitar can not be adjusted pure .011 strings.

Yes your guitar can accept 011


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Post subject: Re: Can Squier necks take size 11 strings?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:52 pm
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Yes, because necks never go bad, the Doobie Brothers hire crappy people to take care of their guitars, and being the goto guy in the Bay area for guitar work means nothing. ;)

Still, it's good to know I just have a bad neck. :)


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Post subject: Re: Can Squier necks take size 11 strings?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:55 pm
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it is possible but not common for a neck to become not adjustable, a second opinion would be a really good idea, i would say the same as stratele that yes it "should" be possible for your guitar to take .11 strings, this is work you should learn to do for yourself anyway. In the sad event that you do need to replace your neck, the VM should be a good replacement, they have a great feel to them, and are good quality

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Post subject: Re: Can Squier necks take size 11 strings?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:24 pm
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Sounds to me like this so called "luthier" didn't bother to adjust the neck relief for the new strings. Then he says the neck can't take 11's with no explanation? Time to find a new luthier. My Affinity Tele neck handles 10's and is straight with the correct amount of relief. I have no doubt it would takes 11's without a problem.

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Post subject: Re: Can Squier necks take size 11 strings?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:54 pm
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Any guitar neck with normal and in working order truss rod can take any string.


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Post subject: Re: Can Squier necks take size 11 strings?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:45 pm
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Settle down. There is absolutely no evidence that Mark is incompetent. That he was recommended by lots of professionals in the SF Bay area is pretty good in my book and I've never had a problem with him on any of my other guitars. In fact, he's done excellent work. I never said he gave no reason for the problem. To suggest that someone with his experience and reputation (well deserved as near as I can tell) would be so incompetent as to not properly adjust the neck (when I know he's done it properly in the past) is to suggest that I should trust no one to work on my guitars. And that's silly. Maybe watch them closely at first, but once they show themselves capable, get out of their way and let them do their thing - but that's how I treat all the people I hire.

As for a second opinion, there comes a point where throwing good money after bad becomes the wrong thing to do. I've had one competent person declare the neck bad. It's possible he made a mistake, but it doesn't seem too likely. How much should I spend to try to fix a neck that costs about $100 to replace? I'm sure I'll play with it myself since I've always been a bit fearful of adjusting the neck - I'll do a lot on my guitars, but I also know my limits. I'm very good at breaking things :).

My main point in asking the question was to find out if this is a known/common issue with Squiers. This is my first foray into the cheaper side of Fender. My other guitars all have USA Fender necks. The guy who sold it on eBay may have known about the neck or maybe he didn't - it doesn't really matter at this point. What matters to me is that this isn't a common problem with Squiers and buying a replacement Squier neck isn't a risky proposition. I had been considering getting a Warmoth neck, but that's more expensive and kind of defeats the purpose of the guitar - a cheaper guitar that I can take out without worrying too much.


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Post subject: Re: Can Squier necks take size 11 strings?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:06 pm
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Settle down. There is absolutely no evidence that Mark is incompetent. That he was recommended by lots of professionals in the SF Bay area is pretty good in my book and I've never had a problem with him on any of my other guitars. In fact, he's done excellent work. I never said he gave no reason for the problem. To suggest that someone with his experience and reputation (well deserved as near as I can tell) would be so incompetent as to not properly adjust the neck (when I know he's done it properly in the past) is to suggest that I should trust no one to work on my guitars. And that's silly. Maybe watch them closely at first, but once they show themselves capable, get out of their way and let them do their thing - but that's how I treat all the people I hire.

As for a second opinion, there comes a point where throwing good money after bad becomes the wrong thing to do. I've had one competent person declare the neck bad. It's possible he made a mistake, but it doesn't seem too likely. How much should I spend to try to fix a neck that costs about $100 to replace? I'm sure I'll play with it myself since I've always been a bit fearful of adjusting the neck - I'll do a lot on my guitars, but I also know my limits. I'm very good at breaking things :).

My main point in asking the question was to find out if this is a known/common issue with Squiers. This is my first foray into the cheaper side of Fender. My other guitars all have USA Fender necks. The guy who sold it on eBay may have known about the neck or maybe he didn't - it doesn't really matter at this point. What matters to me is that this isn't a common problem with Squiers and buying a replacement Squier neck isn't a risky proposition. I had been considering getting a Warmoth neck, but that's more expensive and kind of defeats the purpose of the guitar - a cheaper guitar that I can take out without worrying too much.


All this and you still have given no answer to the question as to why the neck is "bad". :roll:

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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:51 am
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Post subject: Re: Can Squier necks take size 11 strings?
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:34 am
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"All this and you still have given no answer to the question as to why the neck is "bad"."

How the heck would I know? It's been at least two years since the guitar was last worked on. I can't remember things that happened last week, let alone two years ago. He would have told me the problem, but I'd have forgotten it pretty much right away - likely before I even left the shop. If I don't write it down, it's gone. I wish that were different, but there you are. That's another reason I don't work on my own guitars - unless I'm doing it everyday, I can't remember how to do anything.


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Post subject: Re: Can Squier necks take size 11 strings?
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:04 am
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zz5555 wrote:
"All this and you still have given no answer to the question as to why the neck is "bad"."

How the heck would I know? It's been at least two years since the guitar was last worked on. I can't remember things that happened last week, let alone two years ago. He would have told me the problem, but I'd have forgotten it pretty much right away - likely before I even left the shop. If I don't write it down, it's gone. I wish that were different, but there you are. That's another reason I don't work on my own guitars - unless I'm doing it everyday, I can't remember how to do anything.


Wait a minute. You wanted to change strings to 11s TWO YEARS AGO! Your guitar was last worked on by your "luthier" TWO YEARS AGO? Now, TWO YEARS LATER, you want to change necks because the original neck is bad and your "luthier" told you it was bad TWO YEARS AGO? What have you been doing with this guitar in the last TWO YEARS? Have you changed the strings? Have you had a setup done? Have you done ANYTHING in the last TWO YEARS to make sure that the guitar was adjusted properly?

Please tell me this is all a joke. If this is all true, I don't know if I should laugh or cry. Frankly, in my opinion, your "luthier" is an idiot and you are a fool if you have done nothing in the last TWO YEARS to correct whatever the problem is that this guitar may have.

Good luck buying and installing a new neck. I have the feeling that you are going to need it. :roll:

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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:16 am
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Post subject: Re: Can Squier necks take size 11 strings?
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:11 pm
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Incredible story.

Incredibly ridiculous. :roll:

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Post subject: Re: Can Squier necks take size 11 strings?
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:09 pm
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Geez, you guys are kind of dicks.
He just wanted an idea of the general quality of Squier parts. If you need more information to offer an opinion just say so. No need for busting the guy's chops.


Watch your mouth Junior if you expect to spend much time here.

Suggest you reread this thread. The OP's problems are the result of his own negligence in maintaining his guitar, not because of any inherent problem with it's neck.

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Post subject: Re: Can Squier necks take size 11 strings?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:32 am
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Read our answers and you will find that we have always said the best way possible. We never had the information that we ask.
Even today it is unclear why the maker claims that the neck is faulty.

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