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Post subject: Ever thought your squier was better than some pricy guitars
Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:57 am
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Ok. hear me out I was at a bar last night and I was the only one there with a squier strat ( modded with a semour duncan jb jr bridge pu) and i saw alot of gibsons and fenders but they all sounded like $@!& compared to my strat. Even people with the gibsons and fenders said so. Im only 13 but i am very good and talented ( idols jimi hendrix pete townsend and eric clapton.) So i perform a 3 song set (hey joe red house and cocaine.) Dude comes up after me with a gibson les paul standard and mine could kill his in tone anyday of the week.


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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:07 pm
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Ok. hear me out I was at a bar last night and I was the only one there with a squier strat ( modded with a semour duncan jb jr bridge pu) and i saw alot of gibsons and fenders but they all sounded like $@!& compared to my strat. Even people with the gibsons and fenders said so. Im only 13 but i am very good and talented ( idols jimi hendrix pete townsend and eric clapton.) So i perform a 3 song set (hey joe red house and cocaine.) Dude comes up after me with a gibson les paul standard and mine could kill his in tone anyday of the week.


This doesn't suprise me in the least. Granted, a lot of this has to do with your style and your amp...but a modified Squire can be a great guitar.

Incidentally, I was looking at a left-handed Squire and I couldn't help but notice that the bridge hardware was better than the MiM strat I saw a week before. (I would change out the bridge and probably the neck pickup, so that was a moot point.)

But, I can't knock Gibson, or a humbucker too much....that's a different sound. I think where players really lose out (or there is no oversight) is that they put so much distortion on their guitar...then end up losing all their tone in the process.

In some ways, a strat forces you to play cleaner...even a Squire. And, I would take the Seymours over the stock pickups in either a Fender or a Squire any day of the week...

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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:17 pm
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All the time! All my Squiers (3 Standard Fat Teles, 1 Standard Tele, and 1 Jagmaster) feel and play better to me than the MIM Fenders I have tried in the past. Its pretty much my Squiers (and my 1 Schecter) that have made it so I just cannot see paying more than $350 for a guitar because there are so many great guitars available now for less than that. Back when I first got started in the mid 80s, you could easily find yourself paying $300 for a no-name copy of a Fender or Gibson guitar, but these days, thats about all you need to get a pretty good guitar...

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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:24 am
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The truth is that while some guitars, pickups, necks, etc. do sound better/worse than others, I really believe it's the player not the guitar. Obviously you should use whatever is comfortable and gets you the sound/feel you prefer but it's the player.

A lot of you may have already seen this YouTube video of Joe Satriani but it just blew me away.

Here he is playing a strat copy (a Pignose apparently - I didn't even know they made guitars) thru a cheap amp with a single Digitech overdrive pedal and he SOUNDS JUST LIKE SATRIANI.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9v5e1TTwts

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h112/ ... k/pig7.jpg )


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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:45 am
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You guys have different tones, he just likes your tone and didn't know that a gibson would give him something really different.


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When I got my first new Tele back in 1989, I was in college and working, A squier tele was $349.00 It was all I could afford at the time, It's been a great guitar


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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:43 pm
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Check this out...

I was thinking of getting a Gilmour Strat (if it ever comes out) but now that I made this I doubt that a $4000 Gilmour Strat could be any better. This sounds and plays like a dream...

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So I completely agree that a Squier can sound a lot better than any Fender...

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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:19 am
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I've had many players of various various guitar types and brands compliment the playability of my Squier. Squire vs. Fender is not bad vs. good as much as it is a case of how consistent the quality is.

Despite the materials, you may have your hands on a stratocaster put together just as well as an MIM, but yours may have been the only one out of a batch of 2,000 like that.


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TheSymptom wrote:
Despite the materials, you may have your hands on a stratocaster put together just as well as an MIM, but yours may have been the only one out of a batch of 2,000 like that.


I'm going to have to chime in on this one.
I have 5 Squiers from 2001 to 2008 and IMO they are JUST as good as MIM. I also think your "law of averages" is wrong,I've yet to see one as crappy as people say they are. I have two twenty year old American Fenders and don't get me wrong I love em, but they're the last I'll buy. I much prefer the neck of the Squiers.You can modify them with out fear of value loss and they play great at a mear fraction of the cost(I myself can't see the extra $1000).If you search the internet all you will find are people who are surprised by the Squier. Like it or not, they're here to stay and only becoming more popular !


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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:56 am
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Well my numbers are most likely WAY off, but I base this off of other Squiers I've picked up (friend's instruments) that have fallen out of tune within minutes, have knobs falling off, or have obvious manufacturing defects. On the flipside, I've many FANTASTIC Squires, which is why it is a brand I still stand by.

But admittedly, those poor conditions on some of the other guitars can be possibly attributed to poor shipment or mis-treatment by the owner.


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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:01 am
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I had a Korean made Squier Strat that I bought new for $100.00. It had hung on the wall at my local dealer for 2 years and no one bought it. So I made a deal with the music store.
I took it home, gave it a setup, and put in a switch so that I could use all 3 pickups at the same time.
It played and sounded great!!! I wish I would have kept it.

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Most certainly. Currently using a Yellow squier Fat Tele and 3tsb Jagmaster. Have owned both Fender and Squier Strats in the past. Found that I just "get along" better with the Tele body than strats. I think you DO HAVE TO PICK UP the potential-to-purchase guitar of ANY MAKE in order to evaluate it FAIRLY though. One of my first was an early Ibanez Artist model that SOUNDED SUPERB but, when played in gigs, strapped and standing up, was PAYING MY CHIROPRACTORS' MORTGAGE ya know?

Right now, given the right opportunity, I would lose the Jagmaster for the new SQuier Tele thin'line copy. Nice sound, feel and if barchords are being played more than bending, it's hard to beat the 7.25" radius.


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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:00 am
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TheSymptom wrote:
Well my numbers are most likely WAY off, but I base this off of other Squiers I've picked up (friend's instruments) that have fallen out of tune within minutes, have knobs falling off, or have obvious manufacturing defects. On the flipside, I've many FANTASTIC Squires, which is why it is a brand I still stand by.

But admittedly, those poor conditions on some of the other guitars can be possibly attributed to poor shipment or mis-treatment by the owner.


Both of my friends Fender P-Bass' tone knobs have fallen off. That's a problem you can get with any guitar. And tuners aren't that hard to adjust.


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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:15 pm
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I posted this as a response to a discussion in one of the Wayne's World Strat threads. I felt it was relevant to this topic.

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Well, nice! I got mine for $100. I think I'll hold on to it. :D

In all honesty its a real nice guitar, "squier" or not.


As I learn more about guitars and playing in general - and I am still relatively new to the guitar world - I am finding my Squeir Strat comperable to many MIM Strats, and even some MIA's that I have played around with.

I was in a local guitar shop last night picking around with some MIM and MIA Strats that, in all honesty, didn't do anything more for me than my Squier.

On a related note, I also picked up a Squeir or two that where on display at the shop. These guitars where of a similar make to the Squier I own - and I realized that they where made with much less quality. Strange. I think one starts to see that every guitar has it's own 'personality,' if you will, and is as different from the next as each player is. Having purchased my Strat used from the original owner, I am starting to think that I lucked out with the great quality of the guitar.

Now, that said, I am looking still very much forward to finding and purchasing my own American Strat a year or so down the road, once I am playing better (I am currently eying the new sienna sunburst American Standard Strat with the rosewood fretboard). This is a personal goal I have set for myself. At this point, however, my Squier sounds and plays so nicely, and I have made such a bond with the instrument, I doubt that I will ever get rid of it.

My two cents at an early point in my guitar playing love affair. :D


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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:17 pm
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I've been playing guitar for almost two years and my friend recently got a MiM fender strat for christmas. When I went to play it all I could think of is how cool an actual fender is going to feel compared to my squire bullet, but I soon found that the bullet just feels right. In tone it probably doesn't beat the fender, but eventually I'll probably swap pickups and do other stuff. The bullet is a keeper, and i still prefer it over the MiM


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