It is currently Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:57 am

All times are UTC - 7 hours



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 428 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 25, 26, 27, 28, 29  Next
Go to page Previous  1 ... 25, 26, 27, 28, 29  Next
Author Message
Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:14 pm
Offline
Professional Musician
Professional Musician
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:31 am
Posts: 1281
Look at wut just crawled out o' dah closet!

Image

I sold off the Hwy 1 because it was too heavy with the Callaham and locking tuners.

I've got a Strat w/ a Floyd Rose on my wish list. If I can find a nice n' light one that's got killer tone and can't put 'r down feel, I'm a gonna snatch it up, or, if I come a across a real nice light weight strat that'll take the Callaham, I'll get that instead. We'll see!

Meanwhile, it's back to the CV 50 for strat tones and some Squier fun. The pickups come from GF, and the wiring was done by some pro shop before my roommate bought it, she also bought a stock and loaded CV 50's face plate. I'll throw that back into it to see how it sounds if I can find modular wire attachments that work, I refuse to work with solder! If I can't find a modular system to attach the wires, I'll find somebody who don't mind working with solder to put it back in!

Btw, I broke down and used craigslist to sell the Hwy 1, put the stock tuners and broken bridge back in and gave somebody a killer deal for xmas! He used the body for a project he's working on! It was a pretty good experience. I set the price, no haggling, he met me at the bank, done! Nice guy too!

_________________
"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a Conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst." J. Edgar Hoover


Top
Profile
Fender Play Winter Sale 2020
Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:05 am
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist

Joined: Mon May 07, 2012 1:01 am
Posts: 40
@ OP
Strange way of looking at it.
I've been playing 30 years. I own some of the best guitars money can buy, including a couple of Custom made guitars that Fenders couldn't come close to.
Everybody starts somewhere and you don't know at that point whether you'll stick at it. My first guitar back then cost the same as the cheapest Squier does now, so in relative terms, it was about 5 times what the cheapest Squier is. It was nowhere near as playable or reliable.
While I think the majority of Squiers are overrated, living off the reputation of the JV Squiers, aside from the early 90s Korean models, I would not describe them as shoddy.
Where is the sense in blowing a grand on an instrument for a beginner, that is likely to pickup a lot of dings and scratches early on and loses a quarter of it's value as soon as it leaves the shop?
If I'm paying for it, I'd rather lose £100 on a sulky teenager than £250. It also teaches the spoilt brat the value of money and the value of working for it, instead of it being handed to him/her on a plate.

_________________
"As long as I stay Between The Sun And My Shadow, I guess I'm doing well."


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:19 am
Offline
Aspiring Musician
Aspiring Musician
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:02 am
Posts: 404
Thats one of them guitars you deemed unplayable right? yet now its appeared to be "played" in place of the HWY1 you sold? How ironic.

Also you never mentioned before that the guitar had work done prior to you buying it and that could be the reason it was junk, honestly i think you are full of bull, you have apent all this time beating on squier guitars, comparing them to a brawley, asking us to find a squier that sounds like it, and when it comes down to it you want something that has a strat sound so you pick a squier CV50 strat over the brawleys you have compared it to.

You are a funny little man and i have just damn near wet myself laughing at the fact you spent all this time protesting how bad a squier is and how good the brawleys are blah blah blah........ I would imagine you are going to come up with another story that contradicts everything you have said so far, just so that you can try and tell me how wrong i am this time huh?

_________________
Squier Classic vibe 50's
Dave Gilmour "Black Strat" partscaster
'05 Squier standard Telecaster
Vox Pathfinder 15r


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:07 am
Offline
Professional Musician
Professional Musician
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:31 am
Posts: 1281
alfunkz wrote:
I am a funny little man and i have just damn near wet myself laughing at the fact you sold your Hwy 1, and I know how good the brawleys are blah blah blah........I am sooo jealous of you. I would imagine you are going to come up with another smokin' hot guitar story that confirms everything you have said so far, huh?

1. As it sits, the CV 50 is unplayable, if you do your research, you'll find I mentioned the guitar was modified when she bought it.

2. The Hwy 1 specimen I had is a bit too heavy for my back, so I sold it.

3. The work that was done to the Squier before my roomie purchased it is worthless in my book, probably why the guy sold it. But, she got it cheap and it came with the original pickups and sustain block, a killer strap with strap locks, plus the modifications. The GF block doesn't make full contact with the bridge plate and those GF pickups suck on that guitar in my book, and the aftermarket jack plate installation is B-A-D. The nut slots were cut too low by the original owner so there's bad rattle with a proper setup. The fretboard is squared off so badly by the factory, thumb-overs are nearly impossible without pain. The shinny poly doesn't hold-up well with sweat. It becomes too slippery for my body chemistry! If she'll let me, the guitar is getting a complete make-over...fret board edges rolled, maybe a partial scallop on the top side, then a neck refinish to satin, and the original electronics are going back in to see how it sounds stock. New nut. ...the Callaham don't fit without big modifications!

4. The Brawley guitars are way nice, much much nicer than the Squiers she's got (the CV 50 and 2 Affinity Strats). If you compare the specs, you'll see why. Have you looked at the Brawley specs, have you ever played a Brawley?

How's the holiday season going for you? We had a wonderful Thanksgiving and Christmas, can't wait for the New Year!

_________________
"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a Conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst." J. Edgar Hoover


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:50 am
Offline
Aspiring Musician
Aspiring Musician
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:02 am
Posts: 404
Still there is no reason there for you to make the claims you have made for Squier guitars being bad, you (or your room mate) purchased a second hand guitar that had been modified, and in your opinion the modifications were poor, therefore your claims regarding poor build quality are aimed at the person that modified it not the company that originally made the guitar.

The affinity range is a poor comparison to the CV range and the brawleys purely because of the quality of parts used to build them, that said the affinitys are a perectly acceptable guitar at that price point, and as it has the thinner body it suits your needs for a lighter guitar perfectly :lol:

The fact still remains that you sold the HWY1 and have for now replaced it with a CV50's, this in itself retracts all of your previous statements which include how poorly built the guitar was and how unplayable it was, not to mention the fact that you would never be seen promoting squier guitars. Yet here you are playing the poorly built, unplayable guitar, and indeed promoting it.

_________________
Squier Classic vibe 50's
Dave Gilmour "Black Strat" partscaster
'05 Squier standard Telecaster
Vox Pathfinder 15r


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:08 am
Offline
Professional Musician
Professional Musician
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:31 am
Posts: 1281
alfunkz wrote:
Still there is no reason there for you to make the claims you have made for Squier guitars being bad.

The fact still remains that you sold the HWY1 and have for now replaced it with a CV50's.

All of the brand spanking new Squiers I purchased were defective in one way or another, one played great but was way too heavy for my back. It's my humble opinion the guitar weight should be put on the box to avoid this issue when buying online.

The CV is not replacing anything. It's just here and I'm fiddling with it while I search out another strat or strat type gee-tar!

How's the holiday season going for you? We had a wonderful Thanksgiving and Christmas, can't wait for the New Year!

_________________
"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a Conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst." J. Edgar Hoover


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 7:13 am
Offline
Aspiring Musician
Aspiring Musician
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:02 am
Posts: 404
Like i say the affinity would suit your criteria perfectly, thinner body = less weight, a man with your modifying skils and knowhow could make the affinity into a monster :lol: and if you read carefully i said the cv replaces the hwy1 for now and that is exactly what it is doing until you find another guitar :roll:

Do we really need to go through the whole buying online versus, visiting a shop debate? That is your mistake and nobody elses, just so we are clear i will again run through a few things that could have stopped the guitars getting to you in bad shape rather than you ridiculously blaming it on sabotage/unhappy worforce/poor quality control again.

1. You could have made a decent effort to go out and have a look in a shop for a guitar that suits your every need, rather than sitting on your idle backside expecting the manafacturer to waste ink by printing it on the box for you.

2. You could have asked the seller to open the box and make sure it was in good shape before shipping.

3. Couriers aren't the most gentle of people the damage could have happened in transit from store to door, or for that matter in transit from the factory to the U.S.

I am sure many would agree that these are far more likely to be the case than your thoughts on a disgruntled employee, or poor quality control, or of course industrial sabotage (oh wait that was what happened to brawley wasn't it).

Ultimately this is nobody elses problem, but your own, don't just sit there order a guitar online and expect it to be everything you want, and when it isn't just throw it in a cupboard, tell the world what a bad company fender (yes i said fender as that is the parent company after all) is for letting this happen and order another one. Get up, go to town and go to a shop, guitar shopping is fun, just as women like shoe shopping.

_________________
Squier Classic vibe 50's
Dave Gilmour "Black Strat" partscaster
'05 Squier standard Telecaster
Vox Pathfinder 15r


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 7:17 am
Offline
Professional Musician
Professional Musician
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:31 am
Posts: 1281
alfunkz wrote:
Like i say don't just sit there go shoe shopping.

Already did that!

How's the holiday season going for you? We had a wonderful Thanksgiving and Christmas, can't wait for the New Year!

_________________
"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a Conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst." J. Edgar Hoover


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 7:37 am
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist
User avatar

Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:46 pm
Posts: 4
Hello all. I am new to the Fender forums so forgive me if I'm in the wrong place.

I have been looking over different forums and wondered if anyone could clear up something for me.
1. I thought all Fenders where made in USA
2. What this about USB ports on guitars I'm not failure with this.

Thanks

_________________
If it has strings.... PLAY IT!!


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:06 am
Offline
Rock Star
Rock Star

Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:53 am
Posts: 4240
ki4nwxtony wrote:
Hello all. I am new to the Fender forums so forgive me if I'm in the wrong place.

I have been looking over different forums and wondered if anyone could clear up something for me.
1. I thought all Fenders where made in USA
2. What this about USB ports on guitars I'm not failure with this.


Welcome, nice to see you cut in on this alfunkzRCB-CA-USA brawl... 8)

1. No, Fenders are/have been made elsewhere, too. Mexico, Japan etc. Seems that on some annums even "Made in America" may be misleading...
2. Check this link for more information: Squier® by Fender® Strat® Guitar with USB and iOS Connectivity


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:11 am
Offline
Aspiring Musician
Aspiring Musician
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:02 am
Posts: 404
ki4nwxtony wrote:
Hello all. I am new to the Fender forums so forgive me if I'm in the wrong place.

I have been looking over different forums and wondered if anyone could clear up something for me.
1. I thought all Fenders where made in USA
2. What this about USB ports on guitars I'm not failure with this.

Thanks

Hi actually Fenders are made in a number of locations America MIA, Mexico MIM, they are now also making some in China CIC with the Fender logo on the headstock this is due to the quality instruments currently come out of China, Squiers are made for Fender under licence in a number of far eastern locations

_________________
Squier Classic vibe 50's
Dave Gilmour "Black Strat" partscaster
'05 Squier standard Telecaster
Vox Pathfinder 15r


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:22 am
Offline
Aspiring Musician
Aspiring Musician
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:02 am
Posts: 404
As far as the guitar with the USB heres a link to a thread have a look viewtopic.php?f=15&t=79950 basically it is a guitar that plugs directly into your computer so can record, or play on your pc/mac

_________________
Squier Classic vibe 50's
Dave Gilmour "Black Strat" partscaster
'05 Squier standard Telecaster
Vox Pathfinder 15r


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:02 am
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist
User avatar

Joined: Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:54 am
Posts: 93
alfunkz wrote:
As far as the guitar with the USB heres a link to a thread have a look viewtopic.php?f=15&t=79950 basically it is a guitar that plugs directly into your computer so can record, or play on your pc/mac


Wouldn't you need something like amplitube or the like to get the "amp" tone and effects? Do you think it would be more efficienct to use the USB out on one of the Fender Amps such as the Mustang Line?

A clean USB out from the guitar doesn't seem all that terribly useful.


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:12 am
Offline
Aspiring Musician
Aspiring Musician
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:02 am
Posts: 404
jeff_hatcher wrote:
alfunkz wrote:
As far as the guitar with the USB heres a link to a thread have a look viewtopic.php?f=15&t=79950 basically it is a guitar that plugs directly into your computer so can record, or play on your pc/mac


Wouldn't you need something like amplitube or the like to get the "amp" tone and effects? Do you think it would be more efficienct to use the USB out on one of the Fender Amps such as the Mustang Line?

A clean USB out from the guitar doesn't seem all that terribly useful.

When i said directly i meant without having to use an interface, a mic from your amp, or a usb lead from your amp, yes software would be needed but i imagine it comes with the fender fuse software, i don't have one so i acn't comment on that

_________________
Squier Classic vibe 50's
Dave Gilmour "Black Strat" partscaster
'05 Squier standard Telecaster
Vox Pathfinder 15r


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:54 pm
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:55 pm
Posts: 13
I have a question; All these guitars in question weigh less than 10 lbs. So what is the problem with weight? If your back is so bad that an eight pound guitar is too heavy, you need to put music aside and get yourself in better shape.


Top
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 428 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 25, 26, 27, 28, 29  Next
Go to page Previous  1 ... 25, 26, 27, 28, 29  Next

All times are UTC - 7 hours

Fender Play Winter Sale 2020

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: