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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:39 am
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alfunkz wrote:
Are you seriously going to try and say i am repetitve with all this?

...only if you repeat your delusions again in reply to this question:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TeleSVMTLShG

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http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i- ... CARIRW-TBK

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I simple yes or no with a brief explanation will do.

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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:56 am
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...only if you repeat your delusions again in reply to this question:

More insults, and i was actually nice and didn't say anything untoward to encourage this.

You can copy and paste the same links for an eighth time i'm not going to give you an answer

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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:34 am
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alfunkz wrote:
You can copy and paste the same links for an eighth time i'm not going to give you an answer


will 9 work?

lol

Anyways, the Thinline was one of the Squiers I haven't tried yet. It will suck if it's made well and I decided not to get it. So, next month, I'm ah gonna shop one out and give it a whirl. ...hopefully, it's made to perfection! If not, it's goin' back and I'll put up a pictorial about why.

Meanwhile, I'm luvvin' the poop out of my Hwy 1 strat now that it has a Callaham bridge in it, amazing difference, it plays like a true vintage or Customshop now -- hard, stable, and crystal clear with gobs of texture, sustain, and soulful tone. ...everytime I pickup a Squier strat now...it's a no-go from the gate, no comparison!

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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:53 am
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Anyways, the Thinline was one of the Squiers I haven't tried yet. It will suck if it's made well and I decided not to get it.

It will suck because it will disprove your theory, based on your extensive research.

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So, next month, I'm ah gonna shop one out and give it a whirl.

But you just said you decided not to get it :? Make your mind up.


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Meanwhile, I'm luvvin' the poop out of my Hwy 1 strat now that it has a Callaham bridge in it, amazing difference, it plays like a true vintage or Customshop now -- hard, stable, and crystal clear with gobs of texture, sustain, and soulful tone. ...everytime I pickup a Squier strat now...it's a no-go from the gate, no comparison!

I've put american electrics, and a wilkinson full size trem in my CV and it probably plays as well as your HWY1 to be honest, but you'll never believe me as you are a snob and a troll, i didn't think it would take you long to start beating up on squiers again

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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:13 am
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Anyways, the Thinline was one of the Squiers I haven't tried yet. It will suck if it's made well and I decided not to get it.

It will suck because it will disprove your theory, based on your extensive research.

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So, next month, I'm ah gonna shop one out and give it a whirl.

But you just said you decided not to get it :? Make your mind up.


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Meanwhile, I'm luvvin' the poop out of my Hwy 1 strat now that it has a Callaham bridge in it, amazing difference, it plays like a true vintage or Customshop now -- hard, stable, and crystal clear with gobs of texture, sustain, and soulful tone. ...everytime I pickup a Squier strat now...it's a no-go from the gate, no comparison!

I've put american electrics, and a wilkinson full size trem in my CV and it probably plays as well as your HWY1 to be honest, but you'll never believe me as you are a snob and a troll, i didn't think it would take you long to start beating up on squiers again


...you are a full-blown nut-case.

Only what comes out of the box will determine my experience, nothing else.

I made up my mind to try the thinline. If I find a nice thinline used, or if Sweetwater will cut me a deal on credit for both new, I'll get both the G&L and the thinline and keep the keeper, or both if both are keepers.

I haven't put the Callaham on the CV 50 sitting here, so I can't say. I do have...3 Brawley guitars here with Wilkinson trems on them, nice and stable bridges. ...I wonder how good a Brawley will sound with a Callaham on it!

...what kind of brain stew can you make of all that?

:lol:

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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:44 am
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...you are a full-blown nut-case.

Yet again insults you have accused me of hurling, which i only did in retaliation. You may have noticed i have stopped just to prove a point here.

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Only what comes out of the box will determine my experience, nothing else.
You have already told us about about your experiences and findings, from your research you did, purchasing the 2 squiers, that led you to the conclusion that all 2007-9 squiers were trash, these are your findings not mine.

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I made up my mind to try the thinline.
That makes a little more sense you put 2 contradicting sentences in your previous post.

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I haven't put the Callaham on the CV 50 sitting here, so I can't say. I do have...3 Brawley guitars here with Wilkinson trems on them, nice and stable bridges. ...I wonder how good a Brawley will sound with a Callaham on it!

Not being funny but i thought the CV you have was unplayable. Brawleys came with Wilko trems standard thats why, but the original Squier trem was stable and had pretty good sustain considering it isn't a full block. The callaham probably won't make that much difference, the main difference between the 2 are price. Then again i am comparing it to a modern Wilko trem, i cant speak for the older ones

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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:00 am
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alfunkz wrote:
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oh my.

It's like I got my own personal nut case on demand. ...write something nice, he makes brain stew, nice!

Thank you!

lol.

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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:37 am
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Woah there trigger what did i say wrong now?

Did i not just try and have a pretty civil conversation with you about tremolos?
And what was nice about starting the reply with "You are a full blown nut case", i'm hardly gonna sit back and take it am i? But i was still pretty nice about it and did it without insulting you, and in a pretty grown up manner.

I'm sorry your thought processes are confusing me now, please enlighten me. Brainstew? Where?

Seriously try reading it again, but not in anger it might come across differently, either that or you are having 2 conversations and got them mixed up.

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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:08 am
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Just so that everyone knows. I have sent site admin an email requesting they remove this thread, i feel that certain things have been said that maybe shouldn't have and i am emabarrassed to say some of it has been said by me.

I make no bones about liking/disliking someone (i think thats pretty obvious), but i should never have said some of the things i did on an open thread for all to see.

Hopefully admin see fit to remove the thread because i for one have had enough of all the petty to and fro insults. Thats not why i came here.

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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:39 am
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That RCB lunatic STILL TROLLING?? GEEZ!!

As the guys here have been trying to tell you... Mail Ordering a Guitar is a STUPID IDEA...because you have NO IDEA what you're getting feel, set up, quality wise etc..... the EXACT nonsense you've been BEEFING about for 20 pages!! Are you THAT STUPID??

Also, what the heck does it matter, what ANYONE ELSE would pick guitar wise.. YOU have to like it!!

You come here.. RIP SQUIRES.. then say you want to BUY ONE???

Man.. you are mental... SEEK qualified Psychiatric help!! :roll:

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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:32 am
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That RCB lunatic STILL TROLLING?? GEEZ!!

As the guys here have been trying to tell you... Mail Ordering a Guitar is a STUPID IDEA...because you have NO IDEA what you're getting feel, set up, quality wise etc..... the EXACT nonsense you've been BEEFING about for 20 pages!! Are you THAT STUPID??

Also, what the heck does it matter, what ANYONE ELSE would pick guitar wise.. YOU have to like it!!

You come here.. RIP SQUIRES.. then say you want to BUY ONE???

Man.. you are mental... SEEK qualified Psychiatric help!! :roll:

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lunatic, troll. ah. That explains it. I couldn't figure out why I visit this site as often as I can to learn and to help others and to share my observations about life and to engage in interesting discussions. HFS! I thought I was self-actualizing and making a healthy contribution to humanity! Thanks for setting me straight!

On that note (lol)...

Mail ordering is a wonderful idea. The only major issues I've had ordering online were with a Guitar Center employee lying about the condition of a guitar and all Squier guitars I ordered were defective. Beside the GC and Squier experiences, I've had an excellent online experience, tried a *whole bunch* of equipment, and saved a whole bunch of money and wear and tear on my ride doing so.

...and, I justifiably "ripped" Fender/Squier for quality control! On the bright side, we discovered the reasons why the Squier guitars were so defective -- sabotage due to disgruntled employees.

Also...after researching the Squier Thinline further, I've changed my mind, again. I agree, based on the horrific experiences I had with Squiers, it is best to purchase a Squier in person due to the high ratio of defects. As soon as a killer used or new Squier Thinline comes along locally, I'm ah gonna snatch it up!

...I've changed my mind about the G&L too. It's way over-priced for an Asian import and there's not enough info about the guitar to risk the investment of my time. Fender has nothing affordable with the fret scale and pickup config I'm looking for to round out my front line o' guitars. And, I want a guitar that is a complete contrast to the Hwy 1 and Brawley shred sticks. So, I'm getting either an SG, Firebird, or Les Paul! And, this decision is final -- I can feel it in my bones, there's a killer Gibson w/ my name on it waiting for me to snatch it up!

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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:33 am
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I want to comment i really do, but the horse is flogged. Like i've said before people have tried reasoning with you, we tried to beat it into you, i even tried having a conversation with and look where that got me (more insults). I'm done with it you go buy and play any damn guitar you like i just dont want to hear anymore about these ones.

My comments in this thread do not represent the person i am, merely the person i can be pushed into being.

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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:22 pm
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@ alfunkz.. Ditto!
This thread is over.


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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:29 pm
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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:28 pm
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I want to comment i really do, but the horse is flogged. Like i've said before people have tried reasoning with you, we tried to beat it into you, i even tried having a conversation with and look where that got me (more insults). I'm done with it you go buy and play any damn guitar you like i just dont want to hear anymore about these ones.

My comments in this thread do not represent the person i am, merely the person i can be pushed into being.

Your comments represent exactly the person you are. Nobody pushed you into typing anything. What you do, you do by choice -- no matter what the actions and consequences of your actions are.

Stating that somebody pushed you into doing something is indicative of co-dependency, in a worst case scenario, a criminal mentality -- the blame game, the old "it's not my fault, the devil made me do it" -- nothing less than saying "she wore a hot dress and I couldn't help myself." ..."he typed something I disagreed with so I had to be a dhick. ...he pushed me into it." Bull poop!

And, I don't see the entire conversation as one of reasoning -- from where I'm sitting, it seemed as if people tried to "beat" me into their way thinking from the get go, very well put.

Meanwhile, ...Squier or 'real' Fender? Real Fender (Fender USA), for sure. The Squiers, based on my experiences are junk. I've looked at the newer Squiers too, and though the "quality control" appears to have improved, ...the quality of the wood and hardware are still poor overall, the guitars still sound lifeless and don't hold up well under heavy playing the way my Highway 1 does. When I go hot during intense playing, physically hot, the Squiers tend to react to body heat very poorly, very quickly...the neck expands when they heat up and the tone and pitch accuracy suffer badly. The first few minutes, the instrument is sort of musical sounding, stock, it will hold tune for a bit, which is a joke, but then...when yah turn the heat up, the neck goes limp and it's like playing air guitar, the notes just wither away quickly and pitch accuracy is gone.

To me, it's not a good idea to put that sort of mess into a beginner's hands. A beginner needs to spend time playing instead of wrangling with cheap hardware and flimsy wood and hostile forum members.

So, like I said from the beginning, based on my experiences, the best way to go is a used USA instead of the Squier/mod path. You'll get better wood, better hardware, better quality control, have a playable guitar immediately if it's setup correctly, plus have a useful platform to mod upon.

And yes, I know...every thousandth Squier or so is playable. But, I don't have time to sort through a thousand guitars. And, I certainly don't want to go to a noisy guitar shop and play unsanitary guitars handled by a bunch of nose pickers who don't wash their hands, have skin diseases, etc. And, I don't know of any guitar shop that's going to allow me to start picking through countless boxes to find one that's playable. I'd rather take my chances via a random purchase and open a virgin guitar box myself -- especially when there's an inspection tag on the guitar indicating the guitar should be playable out of the box. Enough guitars arrive in the USA from Asia that play out of the box for there not to be an excuse about setups.

I can play any guitar that's not defective! What I experienced with the Squier line was a frickin' nightmare and I hope to encourage Fender to up the *quality* as well as the quality control, and I will do whatever I can to help others avoid that Squier pitfall by sharing my experiences with them until quality and quality control changes for the better and I can then share a better experience with them. It sucks seeing somebody discouraged due to defects and poor quality.

If all that don't make any sense to you...I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree -- you won't reason or beat me into thinking differently. And, I certainly won't allow you or anybody else try to bury my message under a bunch of reasoned, conversational beatings!

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