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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:18 pm
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Here's the vid that sold me on trying out the CV 50:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN1-gQsHrMo

What showed up at my door was a whole nother story! The poor things were just wrecked, never should have made it out of the factory...


Could have been damaged in transit. I doubt it came from the factory in an unplayable state. is your Hwy1 a black model with white pick guard btw ?

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About the vid you posted, I'd like to see the headstock! The guitar had a crisp, loud, and bright treble and middle with good pinch harmonics and good sustain, but was weak on the wound strings, not much punch or texture, long bloom, short sustain, the upper lows were okay when he played higher up the fretboard. Excellent player!



The CV vid ? Well we never really know much about youtube vids beyond what the uploader lists. Old strings, poor setup etc etc. Could be the answer to all of these things. It certainly sounded nice overall. I wish I could have found something that sounded like that back when I started. My first guitar was an £80 Hondo Les Paul copy, a highly offensive beast :lol:


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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:44 pm
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Thanks guys. Yeah she sees lots of hours, at least two a day for the past 3 months. :) it has its quirks which I posted on another thread but I love the thing.

Here's my first mod so far. :D

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...quirks???


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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:22 am
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1neeto wrote:
Thanks guys. Yeah she sees lots of hours, at least two a day for the past 3 months. :) it has its quirks which I posted on another thread but I love the thing.

Here's my first mod so far. :D

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...quirks???

Noisy pups, buzzy after the tenth fret, input jack is a bit iffy. Other than that it fits like a glove.

Just today I bought me my second axe. A late 90's Jackson PS-4 Performer. Now I have my "metal" guitar and the Squier. I'm really happy, will post pics later after I figure out how to string a Floyd rose lol!

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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:00 am
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1neeto wrote:
RCB-CA-USA wrote:
1neeto wrote:
Thanks guys. Yeah she sees lots of hours, at least two a day for the past 3 months. :) it has its quirks which I posted on another thread but I love the thing.

Here's my first mod so far. :D

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...quirks???

Noisy pups, buzzy after the tenth fret, input jack is a bit iffy. Other than that it fits like a glove.

Just today I bought me my second axe. A late 90's Jackson PS-4 Performer. Now I have my "metal" guitar and the Squier. I'm really happy, will post pics later after I figure out how to string a Floyd rose lol!


I googled a pic of the jackson, nice guitar!

A hum de-bugger will fix the noisy pickups.

Is the bridge on the Squier flush with the surface or is there an upward angle?

Iffy jack, nuff said...but if it fits good, keep it!

I adjusted the neck on the Brawley last night, whew! Looks perfect to me now, no change in tone, but I had to do a complete setup after shifting the neck!

Here's what it looks like before and after:

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Here's what it looked like when we bought it, we knew what we were buying, we zoomed that photo and saw a thrashed Brawely that took a flyer, abused, but hardly used, a keeper!

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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:31 am
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RCB-CA-USA wrote:

I googled a pic of the jackson, nice guitar!

A hum de-bugger will fix the noisy pickups.

Is the bridge on the Squier flush with the surface or is there an upward angle?

Iffy jack, nuff said...but if it fits good, keep it!

I adjusted the neck on the Brawley last night, whew! Looks perfect to me now, no change in tone, but I had to do a complete setup after shifting the neck!

Here's what it looks like before and after:

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Here's what it looked like when we bought it, we knew what we were buying, we zoomed that photo and saw a thrashed Brawely that took a flyer, abused, but hardly used, a keeper!

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Looove the finish of that guitar! What's what a flamed maple? Sorry I'm still a n00b lol! That headstock is nice too.

As for my Squier, I did screw the clamp screws all the way in so the bridge stays flushed with the body. Guitar stays in tune much better but the sustain didn't improve at all, maybe I need to add blocks?

Here's a pic of my Jackson! This is from the seller but I'll take more pictures once I oil the neck and polish up that body. It truly doesn't look like a 10+ year old guitar, the previous owner took great care of it judging how the body doesn't have a single chip or dent.
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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:52 am
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1neeto wrote:
Looove the finish of that guitar! What's what a flamed maple? Sorry I'm still a n00b lol! That headstock is nice too.

As for my Squier, I did screw the clamp screws all the way in so the bridge stays flushed with the body. Guitar stays in tune much better but the sustain didn't improve at all, maybe I need to add blocks?

Here's a pic of my Jackson!


AAAA Grade flamed maple top

You need to readjust the bridge plate screws as per the Fender instructions, then adjust the springs so the bridge is at a proper angle to get playable action. If you want to use the trem, you just stretch the strings really well and use nut sauce on the nut, string trees, saddles, and the ball ends of strings. Use a Fender spring in the trem arm hole to stabilize the trem bar (they don't supply the spring or mention the spring with squier to my knowledge...), if you want more stability and not use the trem, you don't need to block it. Just add another spring or two to make the trem firm and readjust the spring tension to keep it at the proper angle, all of which will stabilize it and give you good clean action unless there's issues with the neck bow, tuners, frets, saddles, or nut. If you don't know how to do all that, take it to a local fender authorized center for a setup!

Nice Jackson!

I haven't played a Jackson guitar, yet. But, I got an old USA Charvel body sitting right here, Floyd Rose trem, DiMarzio humbucker, bright orange yellow, gotta find a neck for it.


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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:59 am
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i strongly recommend for the first time paying someone else to do a good setup of your guitar, tell them what your problems are so that they can investigate them fully during the setup, ask if you can watch them, and ask questions while they work as to why they are doing what they are doing not to be protective of your guitar but so you can learn how the job is done, i did somethng similar myself and havent looked back, if you get the right guy he may even say do you wanna try this bit and tell you how to do it.

An iffy jack may just need soldering, jacks are pretty reliable things its normally the solder that gives in in my experience, could be a dry solder joint or broken wire. Fret/pup buzz could be a number of things, poor string hieght, neck curvature, pickups too high, nut may need replacing. Or if you are on about the usual single coil try stepping a bit further away from your amp and try not to have too many appliances in your guitar room plugged in and on at the same time as playing that might help, flourescent lighting is also a big culprit in the s/c earth hum i.e. if you use energy saving bulbs, good for the planet, not for the strats :lol:. do what i did and spend a small amount of money on ebay and get some aluminum or copper foil and shield the cavitys you'll be surprised at the result, i can get 1-2 feet away from my amp and just a few inches from a flourescnt bulb before i get any hum.


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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:15 pm
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Thanks for all the tips guys! I might make it a project today to mess with my guitars since everything's closed today. I was looking at my neck from the headstock and I did notice a bit of a concave bow. I'll try and see if I can capture it on a picture. I don't have a capo though so can't make any truss rod adjustments. I measured my pups and they are actually too low (4mm), that should explain the lack of sustain right?

So today I'll probably string both guitars and while I'm at it I'm gonna shield the cavities. Should be a fun President's day!


*edit* here's the best pic I could take of my neck

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I know it's blurry because my phone wanted to focus on the floor instead.

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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:52 pm
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1neeto wrote:
Thanks for all the tips guys! I might make it a project today to mess with my guitars since everything's closed today. I was looking at my neck from the headstock and I did notice a bit of a concave bow. I'll try and see if I can capture it on a picture. I don't have a capo though so can't make any truss rod adjustments. I measured my pups and they are actually too low (4mm), that should explain the lack of sustain right?

that bow could explain you fret buzz, when you say too low (4mm), do you mean 4mm between the pups and the strings thats possibly too high and could also be causing the buzzing, or 4mm coming out of the pickguard this probably isnt causing the buzzing. fender do recommend pickup height but that is only a guideline moving them away or closer to the strings does affect how the guitar sounds through an amp its all bout exprimenting and getting it to sound how you want it too. sustain is affected by the whole guitar not just one thing, so the better the guitar is setup the closer you will be to reaching full potential of sustain for your guitar, and this is why i suggested taking it to someone to get it setup properly so that you know what to do to get the guitar sounding and playing right.


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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:39 pm
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4mm from the pup post to the low E string while pressing the 21st fret. Tried to adjust the truss rod but the factory Allen wrench doesn't fit well because of a bad angle. Gotta find a way to adjust the truss rod because now I'm sure that's all it needs. :)

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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:11 am
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As long as you have 2 hands you can manage without the capo because you are only holding a string down while you measure the gap. Presuming there are no raised frets you should be able to get a nice low action without much buzz. Worked a charm on my Deluxe, but I did have to have 1 fret filed.


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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:39 pm
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As long as you have 2 hands you can manage without the capo because you are only holding a string down while you measure the gap. Presuming there are no raised frets you should be able to get a nice low action without much buzz. Worked a charm on my Deluxe, but I did have to have 1 fret filed.

Lol true but i already bought a capo. I'm doing the adjustments tonight when I have down time from work. Can't wait to have my Squier play like its supposed to. :)

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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:04 pm
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1neeto wrote:
Muff Diver wrote:
As long as you have 2 hands you can manage without the capo because you are only holding a string down while you measure the gap. Presuming there are no raised frets you should be able to get a nice low action without much buzz. Worked a charm on my Deluxe, but I did have to have 1 fret filed.

Lol true but i already bought a capo. I'm doing the adjustments tonight when I have down time from work. Can't wait to have my Squier play like its supposed to. :)


...any success getting that Squire to play like it's supposed to???


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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:43 am
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Hello new to forum and the whole guitar scene. I always wanted to learn to play. Now that I'm older and looking for a hobby I figured it was about time. I heard of Fender over the years and I appreciate the Squier acoustic starter package. Affordable and made sense. Being a noob jumping right in with a custom made $1,000 starter guitar doesn't make sense yet. Thx Fender for the deal and hello again to everybody 8)

...man my fingers hurt :wink:


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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:37 am
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hi open and welcome the world of squier guitars, hope you have fun learning, and good luck


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