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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:47 pm
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None of the above describes in detail the differences between Squiers and "real" Fenders.

I'd like to hear Fender educate us about the distinct differences in wood quality, fret materials, electronics, how much work is and isn't done as compared between CV 50's and Hwy 1's.

All of the above is summary, generic information and not at all helpful to this discussion.

And, sticks and stones...come on kids, dispense with the immature drama!

...do you really want to tweak your karma this way???


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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:01 pm
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jeez man its on the website there for everyone to see and you still think you are right, there is enough information there for people to make an informed decision.

theres a few names i would love to call you but i cant because i would get banned.
I called you a genius, isnt that how you described yourself? yet another one of your statements, you are doing a good job of disproving.

Why dont you give fender a call see if they will do what you ask, you never know they might give you a job and pay you a squier a week to teach you a lesson, or just get laughed at.

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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:24 pm
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and the information i posted is similar info to what you posted to compare the brawley to a squier, but you elaborated yours to include personal opinion about the wood and the AAAAA grade finish it dont take a "genius" to work that out, i didnt i just copied and pasted.

I dont have to elaborate to prove my point, i just have to keep goading you into replying :lol:


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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:38 pm
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jeez man its on the website there for everyone to see and you still think you are right, there is enough information there for people to make an informed decision.

theres a few names i would love to call you but i cant because i would get banned.
I called you a genius, isnt that how you described yourself? yet another one of your statements, you are doing a good job of disproving.

Why dont you give fender a call see if they will do what you ask, you never know they might give you a job and pay you a squier a week to teach you a lesson, or just get laughed at.

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No, another user described me as a genius. When they did so, I acknowledged the fact, 169 to be pacific (makin' a punny)! Not "mensa" material, but it works for me!

I am giving Fender a call, right here! I'd like to hear Fender educate us about the distinct differences in wood quality, fret materials, electronics, how much work is and isn't done as compared between CV 50's and Hwy 1's.

I'm thoroughly pleased with the Hwy 1 but was sadly disappointed by the many Squiers I purchased due to quality control that I later discovered here on this forum was related to worker disputes -- sabotaged Squiers Fender released into the wild, shocking.

But still, even if the quality control were top-notch, it was my experience with all Squiers that the quality of the wood is so poor compared to the Hwy 1, Squiers are not worth an upgrade as compared to purchasing a used USA Fender strat.

Fender can put an end to all the arguing once and for all by giving us the info I'm asking for here.

Again, even if I post photos and a lengthy discussion, unless Fender chimes in and gives us definitive answers, there'll be endless arguing and whining from the immature, name calling "trolls", i.e., mean and inconsiderate people who can't accept that the quality of wood on the Hwy 1 is far superior -- I can hear it, can't you???


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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:39 pm
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No, another user described me as a genius. When they did so, I acknowledged the fact, 169 to be pacific (makin' a punny)! Not "mensa" material, but it works for me!

correction she said "genius logic" or words to that effect, when she said that she wasnt calling you a genius, she was being sarchastic, you are just too concieted to see the difference.

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I am giving Fender a call, right here! I'd like to hear Fender educate us about the distinct differences in wood quality, fret materials, electronics, how much work is and isn't done as compared between CV 50's and Hwy 1's.

And this will confirm you original claims that "all squiers are unplayable" how?

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I'm thoroughly pleased with the Hwy 1 but was sadly disappointed by the many Squiers I purchased due to quality control that I later discovered here on this forum was related to worker disputes

So all of the defected squiers you purchased were from the same factory, made by the same people, during the same period as the workers disputes, arent you just putting 2 and 2 together from a story you read on a forum. why buy so many, just return the first one under warranty and get the problems sorted.

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sabotaged Squiers Fender released into the wild, shocking.

I agree poor show for that squier, but it was an isolated batch, and it isnt happening now, the quality of guitars is much better as we speak.

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But still, even if the quality control were top-notch, it was my experience with all Squiers that the quality of the wood is so poor compared to the Hwy 1, Squiers are not worth an upgrade as compared to purchasing a used USA Fender strat.

Now we are on to something, if you had said something like this in the first place, then we wouldnt be here now, this is more of an opinion based on your experince, not all of it is right but still its a start. still a litle bit Fender snobby really.

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Fender can put an end to all the arguing once and for all by giving us the info I'm asking for here.

All well and good, but i want someone from fender, maybe chad traweek the moderater guy, not you saying "i have just spoken to fender and they said...... blah blah blah" because that really doesnt prove you even called fender.

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Again, even if I post photos and a lengthy discussion

you have been promising these photos for some time now and they havent materialised yet, forgive me for saying but this leads me to believe you are not giving us the full truth, surely you can see that?

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unless Fender chimes in and gives us definitive answers, there'll be endless arguing and whining from the immature, name calling "trolls"

dont complain about name calling by calling me and others immature "trolls", a bit pointless to complain in the first place dont you think?

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mean and inconsiderate people

does that put you in that category for what you said, about other people guitars, and do you not think that is why people retaliated to your comments in the first place, Yes i thought the same about you i fight fire with fire buddy.

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can't accept that the quality of wood on the Hwy 1 is far superior -- I can hear it, can't you???

i have never picked up a HWY1 to hear what the wood sounds like when you tap on it, so what do i have to go by? your word, which doesnt convince me, this leaves me with no choice but to look on the fender website and do a comparison, and this leads me to believe that there isnt really much difference, between the CV 50's and the HWY1 apart from the "made in .........." label, and the price, this to me makes the CV better value for money and a more attractive package all round, and for £30-£40 i can change the electrics to HWY1 spec, still better bang for buck than the HWY1.

Oh and by the way, my Squier was purchased on the advice of a registered Fender dealer, when i was out looking for a Fender MIM or HWY1 who stands to make more money from selling me the MIM/HWY than he does from selling me a Squier, now thats "promoting". Go figure


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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:03 pm
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Alrighty people I think it is to say "let's agree to disagree". This discussion is way out of hand. When it comes right down to it, playability and quality is purely in the hands and ears of the person playing it. I own a Highway 1 and I owned a CV 60 Stratocaster. I definatly would buy another CV Stratocaster in the future and funds were low. It is the best bang for your money in my opinion to have a playable guitar while on a low budget. I would also purchase another Highway 1 in the future as well.

I always recommend to anyone purchasing a guitar to play before you pay. Not everyone will like the same model as someone else.

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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:37 am
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Alrighty people I think it is to say "let's agree to disagree". This discussion is way out of hand. When it comes right down to it, playability and quality is purely in the hands and ears of the person playing it. I own a Highway 1 and I owned a CV 60 Stratocaster. I definatly would buy another CV Stratocaster in the future and funds were low. It is the best bang for your money in my opinion to have a playable guitar while on a low budget. I would also purchase another Highway 1 in the future as well.

I always recommend to anyone purchasing a guitar to play before you pay. Not everyone will like the same model as someone else.


I fully agree with you, and yes i am prepared to agree to disagree, i really think this is up to RCB though


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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:03 am
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alfunkz wrote:

I fully agree with you, and yes i am prepared to agree to disagree, i really think this is up to RCB though


I am prepared to read what Fender has to say because it has been my experience that the grade of wood and paint used, the quality of the hardware and electronics used, and the attention to detail performed on USA strats far exceeds the Squiers making the used USA strat, particularly the HWY 1, a much better value than a new Squier plus upgrades. It's my firm recommendation that people go the used USA route v Squier or Squier plus upgrades.

So, no. I am not prepared to agree to disagree. I stand firm in my recommendation and am asking Fender to chime in!


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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:31 am
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Well everyone can now see you for what you really are, i offered that olive branch and even though we have been disagreeing all the way through this thread you cant even accept that.

what more can i say people, lets just see what fender have to say if anything at all, oh by the way RCB did you mention that you have had nothing but bad things to say about Squier guitars, purchased some online that were defective and never returned them for repair or refund, and that all of thier guitars are completely unplayable, failing that did you even phone them?

Because once they read through this thread they will have a pretty good slander case against you


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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:31 am
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Well everyone can now see you for what you really are, i offered that olive branch and even though we have been disagreeing all the way through this thread you cant even accept that.

what more can i say people, lets just see what fender have to say if anything at all, oh by the way RCB did you mention that you have had nothing but bad things to say about Squier guitars, purchased some online that were defective and never returned them for repair or refund, and that all of thier guitars are completely unplayable, failing that did you even phone them?

Because once they read through this thread they will have a pretty good slander case against you


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Well everyone can now see you for what you really are, i offered that olive branch and even though we have been disagreeing all the way through this thread you cant even accept that.

what more can i say people, lets just see what fender have to say if anything at all, oh by the way RCB did you mention that you have had nothing but bad things to say about Squier guitars, purchased some online that were defective and never returned them for repair or refund, and that all of thier guitars are completely unplayable, failing that did you even phone them?

Because once they read through this thread they will have a pretty good slander case against you


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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:49 am
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Well everyone can now see you for what you really are, i offered that olive branch and even though we have been disagreeing all the way through this thread you cant even accept that.

what more can i say people, lets just see what fender have to say if anything at all, oh by the way RCB did you mention that you have had nothing but bad things to say about Squier guitars, purchased some online that were defective and never returned them for repair or refund, and that all of thier guitars are completely unplayable, failing that did you even phone them?

Because once they read through this thread they will have a pretty good slander case against you


ummm...olive branch? We're not at war here. We're discussing Squiers v "real" Fenders.

Again, the reason I randomly purchased Squiers was to check quality control before playing the guitar in public. Unfortunately, out of all the Squiers I randomly purchased, there was a 100% reject rate due to defects and extremely poor tone. So, I couldn't even find one worth playing, nevertheless, one that wasn't defective. That's not slander, that's the truth of my experiences with new Squiers! I'd be happy to discuss this with Fender, which is why I am asking them to chime in here!

..."slander", uz guyz are getting desperate.


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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:00 am
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RCB, the only one desperate here is you. You were offered the chance to stop arguing like a man, yet you even declined that.

If you truly wanted Fender's response, you'd either get Brad Traweek in here or email Fender directly, but knowing you, you'd probably forge a bogus reply and make it seem like you're in the right or something. :lol:

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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:22 am
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ummm...olive branch? We're not at war here.

An olive branch is offered ny one person to another when niether party can reach an agreement, thats exactly the situation we have here. If it was war we would have to make a peace declaration :lol:

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We're discussing Squiers v "real" Fenders.

Squiers are real Fenders the clue is in the name, "Squier by Fender".

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Again, the reason I randomly purchased Squiers was to check quality control before playing the guitar in public. Unfortunately, out of all the Squiers I randomly purchased, there was a 100% reject rate due to defects and extremely poor tone

Again, did you use the warranty provided by Fender to repair the defects, or refund your money? no you just purchased another guitar online and had the same problem, how this constitutes research one will never know.

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So, I couldn't even find one worth playing, nevertheless, one that wasn't defective. That's not slander, that's the truth of my experiences with new Squiers!

"all squiers are completely unplayable" i think were your words, thats not true, that makes it slander. "any squier needs $500 worth of upgrades, to make them sound and play well" again not true, slander. keep up wil you.

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I'd be happy to discuss this with Fender, which is why I am asking them to chime in here!

Do you really expect that to happen? seriously? honestly? they are going to take one look at your comments and laugh it off, they really dont care if you buy a Squier or a Fender its all money in the bank at the end of the day.

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..."slander", uz guyz are getting desperate.

Yup for a pee, i spent too long on this reply, but i will reply to your ridiculous comments as long as you continue to post them.

The "olive branch" remains in place Colonel, its yours to accept.


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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:28 am
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RCB, the only one desperate here is you. You were offered the chance to stop arguing like a man, yet you even declined that.

If you truly wanted Fender's response, you'd either get Brad Traweek in here or email Fender directly, but knowing you, you'd probably forge a bogus reply and make it seem like you're in the right or something. :lol:


I truly want a response. It's not my job to nudge Fender into the conversation, not to mention, all threads are monitored by Fender so Fender is well aware of the discussion.

I value my soul and good karma. I'd never forge a bogus reply!

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