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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:24 pm
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NarooN wrote:
It seems the resident clown has resurfaced!


All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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I guess we're at the ridicule stage of the truth here!

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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:27 pm
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SexyGibson wrote:
This guy is what is commonly known on forums as a " troll ". Trolls wander here and there, posting flaming comments in an attempt to get guys " riled " up.
They don't have any knowledge about what they speak of and, in all honesty, probably don't even play guitar.
No sense in wasting your time arguing with them because that is exactly what they want.

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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:53 pm
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RCB-CA-USA wrote:
NarooN wrote:
It seems the resident clown has resurfaced!


All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer
German philosopher (1788 - 1860)


I guess we're at the ridicule stage of the truth here!

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no you started the ridicule if i remember rightly, and your violent opposition to squiers with the self evidence of guitars purchased without viewing. so in truth you have just accepted defeat and admitted you were wrong all along time to be quiet for once and reflect on your words.

Getting smart aint gonna help sunshine, using philosophy and psycholgy just boils down to sarchasm and trust me you aint gonna win that fight with me around. So lets not try and be a smartass, coz no one likes a smartass, or a naysayer, or an egomaniac, or an ignoramous, hang on........ i know someone that fits all of the above :lol:

Sarchasm is the lowest form of wit, yeah but it gets most laughs. Alfunkz , English Squier lover (1973-present)


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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:18 pm
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RCB-CA-USA wrote:
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I'm still waiting for these pictures we have been promised, but the only thing they are gonna prove is that the guitars have been taken apart and that they are squiers, thats if they ever materialise


Sorry, been busy. I'd rather play my Hwy 1 than argue about Squiers. However, it's important people who come here get all sides of the Fender v. Squier story. So, I'll get to those photos when I have the time -- we'll get back to this discussion soon!

i dont care about your pictures to be honest because they arent gonna prove your arguement at all, you have already taken them apart so any damage could have been done by butter fingers RCB himself. Yes i agree about the whole fender v squier story thats why there is a squier forum on the fender website, it doesnt mean that because you have told the world your views that the world should listen, are you really that self righteous
Actually don't asnswer that i know its a yes :lol:


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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:20 pm
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NarooN wrote:
It seems the resident clown has resurfaced!

I'm hitting the like button but nothing is happening :lol:


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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:52 pm
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alfunkz wrote:
Sarchasm is the lowest form of wit, yeah but it gets most laughs. Alfunkz , English Squier lover (1973-present)


I love this quote! :D

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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:06 am
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NarooN wrote:
alfunkz wrote:
Sarchasm is the lowest form of wit, yeah but it gets most laughs. Alfunkz , English Squier lover (1973-present)


I love this quote! :D

Its one of my little pearls of wisdom 8)


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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:45 am
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The good thing is; there's already enough info in this thread for people to use to make an intelligible decision about purchasing a Fender v. Squier... Hand's down, a Hwy 1 strat or tele is a superior value compared to any Squier strat or tele! For the amount of money it takes to disappointingly upgrade a Squier, you can get a used Hwy 1 and many other USA strats for about the same price, the USA strats used a superior value to the Squier upgrade route!

Smart people can read right through the bull-duty statements about me being a troll!

When I have time to do the photo post, which will be extensive, I will pretty much enshrine the facts that a used Fender USA guitar is always a superior value to a new and then upgraded Squier! And in many cases...it's worth starving for a few months to afford a new USA strat altogether.

Again, I spent 2-years exploring Squiers finding one disappointment after the next! The poor quality control was 100%, and no upgrade could make the inferior wood "sound" better.

Oh, and I got that Brawley here. mojo machine, big time! Pickin' up another one tomorrow!

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Brawley Custom Alnico pickups; paraffin-potted
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Color options: Black Cherry Transparent or Honeyburst

Can you show me a non-defective Squier with those features???


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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:06 am
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I just find it hilarious how closed-off this guy's mind is.

RCB:

>Picks up guitar without even checking it out first
>Just happens to be defective
>Instantly comes to the conclusion that every instrument like it is also just as defective

Genius logical progression there! :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:40 am
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NarooN wrote:
I just find it hilarious how closed-off this guy's mind is.

RCB:

>Picks up guitar without even checking it out first
>Just happens to be defective
>Instantly comes to the conclusion that every instrument like it is also just as defective

Genius logical progression there! :lol:


You must have missed a few posts. I ordered the Squier guitars to find out what the quality control was like *before* promoting the guitar by playing it for people. It's not my fault all Squiers arrived in a defective state in one way or another -- I'm just reporting back to the community my experiences. A 100% failure rate in my experiences is not a conclusion, it's a pragmatic fact, conclude what you will!

Why would I want to give a 100% reject rate another chance, nevertheless, promote it by playing it??? Screw me once, shame on you. Screw me twice, shame on me!

And yes, I have a high IQ, *I am* a genius. At least you got something right here!


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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:25 am
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A 100% failure rate in my experiences is not a conclusion
A 100% failure rate in my experiences
in my experiences


Yep, in YOUR experience. Have you played every Squier ever? No you haven't. There are vids on youtube of people playing 100% stock Squiers that are great instruments, proving your claims false.

Also, I didn't say anything about you being a genius or having a high I.Q., I said your logical thought process was genius, of course I was jesting. You seem to have a nice little habit of only seeing and reading what you want to see. :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:37 am
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There are vids on youtube of people playing 100% stock Squiers that are great instruments, proving your claims false.

...You seem to have a nice little habit of only seeing and reading what you want to see. :lol:

Lemme see if I got this straight... 100% of the Squiers I purchased were defective in one way or another. I've shared this experience to help compare Squier v Fender, and trolls have attacked my posts repeatedly, ignoring the truths I've experienced!

ummm...I simply calls um as I sees um.

The only things I want to see and read are truth and quality -- everything else is a waste of time!

Hwy 1 ='s truth and quality.

Squier = a load of dung -- a waste of time!

There are vids of people with good technique playing crappy guitars. ...can't you hear that??? I can!


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Post subject: Re: Squier or 'real' Fender
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:31 am
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So if you have a terrible guitar, and someone with "good" technique plays it and it sounds good, ...?

A terrible guitar sounds bad no matter what, therefore your statement makes no sense. You have no idea how foolish you're making yourself look here. No one in this thread is a troll besides you. The difference between trolls of the old days and these neo trolls (i.e. you) is that they were at the very least witty and funny. You lack these necessary traits to be called a successful troll.

Just because you had bad experiences with a handful of guitars doesn't mean that's the experience everyone else in the world has had. Wow, did I really need to type that? I feel like I'm talking to a five yr. old.

You've been outed multiple times in this thread, and various people have even gone in-depth to explain how some of the stuff you yourself said backfired on you (try proof-reading sometime!), yet you ignore all of this and just blindly claim "lololol im rite, ur rong" as if that's a valid refutation.

Tsk tsk.

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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:42 pm
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The good thing is; there's already enough info in this thread for people to use to make an intelligible decision about
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purchasing a Fender v. Squier

thats not the case is it? what you have stated are oppinions based on your own exprience with purchasing guitars you havent seen or tried before buying.

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Hand's down, a Hwy 1 strat or tele is a superior value compared to any Squier strat or tele

thats been proven wrong also in this thread, but i wont bore the viewers with the info they have already gathered while reading through it.

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For the amount of money it takes to disappointingly upgrade a Squier, you can get a used Hwy 1 and many other USA strats for about the same price,

funny how there is a considerable difference in depreciation values of the HWY1 compred to high end squiers, thats a fact not personal opinion, i agree there are certain parts on a squier that in the future MIGHT be worthy of an upgrade, namely the pots and selector switch, but an upgrade kit costs around £30 so that still makes the squiers better bang for your buck, and it isnt an immediately necessary upgrade.

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Smart people can read right through the bull-duty statements about me being a troll!


no they know the difference between trolling and telling the truth :lol:

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When I have time to do the photo post, which will be extensive, I will pretty much enshrine the facts that a used Fender USA guitar is always a superior value to a new and then upgraded Squier

I repeat, all this will prove is that you have taken a couple of squier to pieces nothing more nothing less so theres no point.

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And in many cases...it's worth starving for a few months to afford a new USA strat altogether.

what a pathetic statement to make, who in their right mind would starve themselves to buy any guitar, well apart from you........ hang on i said right mind didnt i, you are excluded from that statement.

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Again, I spent 2-years exploring Squiers finding one disappointment after the next!

wow it took you that long to come to this conclusion, based on 5 guitars you certainly spent a lot of time playing the unplayable didnt you?

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Oh, and I got that Brawley here. mojo machine, big time! Pickin' up another one tomorrow!

brilliant i hope you all have a wonderful and happy life together, should keep you quiet for a while huh? lets hope so.

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Can you show me a non-defective Squier with those features???

nope because fender didnt want to change the way they made their guitars because kieth brawley thought they should (you already bored us with that story), thats like comparing a horse to a zebra, look similar but completely different animals.


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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:11 pm
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You must have missed a few posts.

No i dont think she did :lol:

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I ordered the Squier guitars to find out what the quality control was like *before* promoting the guitar by playing it for people.

you aint no gilmour, fender wouldnt see it as promoting, more like cash in the bank, the promoting has already been done to make you buy the guitar in the first place, honestly your not all there are you?

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It's not my fault all Squiers arrived in a defective state in one way or another

eerrrrmmmmmmm yes, did you try the guitar before you purchased?

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I'm just reporting back to the community my experiences.

Theres a key word in there somewhere, oh there it is "experiences"

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A 100% failure rate in my experiences is not a conclusion

no no i'll give you that, very true.

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it's a pragmatic fact, conclude what you will!

Ok i conclude you're full of bull.

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Why would I want to give a 100% reject rate another chance, nevertheless, promote it by playing it??? Screw me once, shame on you. Screw me twice, shame on me!

you said it all right there, after all you did buy a defective guitar online, then went and done it agiain, now hang your head in shame and stop your whining fool.

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And yes, I have a high IQ, *I am* a genius. At least you got something right here!

Again that was sarchasm naroon was using there, and having a high IQ doesn't make you a genius it just means you process certain information better than others, Charlie Babbit (rainman) was a prime example of that, how many cotton buds did you count?


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