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Post subject: Indonesian & Mexican squier strat
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:09 am
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I have a inonesian squier strat s/n IC041001543 that was given to me. i would like to know more about it it says its a standard strat other then that i know nothing about it. I also have a mexican squier strat not sure what model it is does play nice thou s/n MN405897 thanks for all your help


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Post subject: Re: Indonesian & Mexican squier strat
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:56 pm
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Post subject: Re: Indonesian & Mexican squier strat
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:22 am
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heres pics of the mexican

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and heres the pics of the indonesian

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Post subject: Re: Indonesian & Mexican squier strat
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:17 am
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I don't know the exact year they started but Squier Strats are made in Indonesia and Fender MIM Strat are "Made in Mexico". Nothing uncommon here. Both of these guitars are 2004s

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Post subject: Re: Indonesian & Mexican squier strat
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:48 am
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thanks, anything you can tell me on what pickups and wood that was used in both of them also what trem arms will work with the MIM it didn't come with one


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Post subject: Re: Indonesian & Mexican squier strat
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:58 am
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From the serial numbers, both instruments appear to be '04's. I'll start with the Indo first since I'm a bit more familiar with those...

The Indo appears to be a Squire "Standard". This is, more or less about the middle of the line for Squires...typically you have "Bullets" (bottom shelf), Affinities, Standards and then various deluxe and "Vibe" models, etc.. For what they are and for the money, they are pretty decent instruments. It's hard to be exact about stuff like pickups and body woods on these instruments as the folks at Squire don't always keep exact records and often whatever parts are in the bin are what they tend to use for these. Particularly in regards to the pickups, unless someone has replaced them at some point chances are they're just plain ol' "Squire single coils" that may or may not have some form of Alnico pole pieces and such. As far as the pickups go, my advice is simply this; if you like the way they sound, then enjoy them for what they are. If not, then change them...personally I'm a big Seymore Duncan fan myself but any decent name brand pickup usually sounds pretty good. The body wood is most likely agathis...the Euro/Asian version of alder.

As I said, the Indo Standards are actually pretty decent instruments (as are the later China Standards). I currently have an '04 Indo Standard neck on a partscaster I built about a year or so back and it's a really nice neck to play. I think my single biggest gripe about these Squire Standards (Indo or China) is the bridges...they may "look" similar to an American Standard bridge but they're pretty cheap...low mass trem blocks (kills the sustain) and those bridge plates -will- wear around the 2 pivots. That said, with a few bucks and a little work, these instruments can be pretty sweet players to be sure!

Now on the Mexi, this is a bit of a different story. First please know that your Mexi is -NOT- the same as a typical "Mexican Standard". I don't remember all of the details and hopefully someone will correct me if I provide any mis-information here but as I recall, I think these were some sort of transition era instruments....basically a run with left over parts they had in the factory or something similar. While there have been some exceptions, typically these were bottom-shelf instruments...pretty cheap. Crappy tuners, cheap pickups, cheap, crappy, low mass pot metal bridges, cheapo pickups, etc. (and based on the pics, this looks like exactly what you have). Some of them had nice enough necks but otherwise, these are really just "entry level" instruments. As it's a solid color and not a sunburst, while I could certainly be wrong, I would also expect the body to be a plywood/laminate. The easiest way to check this is to simply take the trem cover or pickguard off and look...if it's plywood, it's really easy to tell. I have seen a few decent laminates over the years but more often than not, these usually just had pretty cheap plywood bodies...at the risk of being blunt, most of those bodies were really little more than firewood. It's hard to say without actually seeing it or playing it but based on the pics at least, I honestly don't think I'd put much money or effort in to that instrument. Decent pickups are always nice because you can always swap them out later and put the good pickups in a better guitar (and put the originals back in) but otherwise I suspect this is really little more than a cheap guitar that basically has the Fender/Squire name on it. Keep it as a "beater" or a second guitar (or third or fourth). It is what it is; a cheap Strat.

Okies...not sure if that's what you wanted to hear or not but I hope it helps!
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Post subject: Re: Indonesian & Mexican squier strat
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:13 am
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jaknzax did you notice that the MIM Fender says "Squier series" at the nose of the headstock? That is rather unusual to me. The other is definitely a Squier Standard as it says. The info on the Standard is @ squierguitars.com



Your way more observant than I am..my bad brotha..but where does it say squierguitar.com? I think it says Squier series..but I may be wrong again

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Post subject: Re: Indonesian & Mexican squier strat
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:20 pm
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thats just what i needed to know only prob i have with the indo is the neck relief ohterwise not a bad guitar as for the mim it does sound pretty good like i said for what it is. but i will be working on the indo since as you were right on the plywood body on the mim as they are my stand bys to my standard strat and my ibanez i can mod them to see what can be brought out of them.


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Post subject: Re: Indonesian & Mexican squier strat
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:29 pm
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Its cool man..I like both of the guitars personally and I'm sure they are both good. I didn't look at all the pics as close as should have. I learned something from moose's post and pics I didn't relize.

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Post subject: Re: Indonesian & Mexican squier strat
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:17 am
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I am not an expert on these but I will try to provide some info on the Meican Squier...

It was actually made in the Fender plant in Mexico in 1994. These are generally regarded as good guitars for that price level in that time. They could even be considered sought after, but don't get that excited it still wouldn't be worth more than your average Squier guitar in that condition. As for wood, p/u's etc, I can't help you much but that should be a starting point for some more research.

And the indo made strat info you have gotten is all right...I turned one of these into a David Gilmour tribute guitar.

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Post subject: Re: Indonesian & Mexican squier strat
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:41 pm
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i have adjusted the truss rod still haveing a string buzz unless i bring the action up higher then i normaly would not sure on the cause of this yet as for MIM ya its not bad for what it is still gotta get a trem arm for it thanks for all the help


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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:59 pm
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As far as the string buzz goes, aside from the usual stuff like neck relief, correct bridge setup, etc., ya might wanna take a closer look at those frets. These inexpensive guitars aren't really known for having outstanding fretwork...you could very well have an uneven fret there causing the buzz.

As for the trem arm...I forgot to mention in my first post, I'd just take the guitar to any Fender shop and say "I need a trem arm". Guitar Center usually charges like $5 or so but most smaller shops will usually have a box full of them...I got the arm for my '85 MIJ for a whopping $2 out the door :-).

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Post subject: Re: Indonesian & Mexican squier strat
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:47 pm
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i will have to look at the frets close and and i will call the shops to see if they have any trem arms


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Post subject: Re: Indonesian & Mexican squier strat
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:58 pm
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Just got finished my first week with my new squire "fat strat" black with chrome pickguard. I opened the box and my mouth fell open it looked hot in the photos but even better in person!! I hokked it to a mustang 1 amp. If your a newbie like me I recomend both. HIGHLY!


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Post subject: Re: Indonesian & Mexican squier strat
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:12 pm
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Hi all. I am new here and have done tons of research before purchasing my first strat.
The MIM Squier Series in question was assembled in Mexico with American made Bodies and necks. The hardware is in fact lower grade.
These models were assembled during the transition period in Mexico, before they had the plant making bodies and necks.

I hope this helps.

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