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Post subject: Squier Made in Mexico in 90
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:03 am
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Hi,

i would like to get some advices from you.

Well let me first explain you.

I want to buy a peavey royal 8 amp and someone want to trade me the amp with a squier strat made in 93

it not a squier series as you can see on the headstock
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So i want to know if the guitar is a good one.

I already have a squier affinity with good dimarzio and i don't want to trade my amp with the squier MIM if she has the same quality of my affinity you know.

A rumor tells that the squier MIM are made with some parts of fender USA strat but assembly in Mexico.
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"90’s Fender Mexico w/ Black Decal: A Mystery Uncovered You might have heard of mexican made Fender guitars with a black headstock decal, sometimes associated with some mystery Squier Series made in Mexico. It’s true that there actually was a “Squier Series” that was made by Fender in Mexico and featured a black decal on the headstock, but not all mexican made Fender guitars with such a black label were part of that very “Squier Series”. Since there appears to be a lot of confusion and half-knowledge about these guitars out there, I decided to do some research on my own.

The black label was used by Fender Mexico for a limited time only between 1993 and 1998. It can be found exclusively on the rather short lived mexican “Traditional” and “Squier” series for the Telecaster, Stratocaster and Precision Bass. Usually, Squier is to Fender what Epiphone is to Gibson. In this very case, the use of the name “Squier” had nothing to do with the actual Squier brand, as the series was named “Squier Series”, but it was by all means a Fender series, not a Squier series. The keyword is “series”, not “Squier”. The regular mexican “Standard” series was available too at the time, but it already featured the same silver-ish logo that is still used for it today. However, between 1993 and 1998, both labels (the black AND the silver-ish one) were used for mexican made Fender guitars, but for (slightly) different guitars.

The guitars with the black label consisted mostly of overstock american made Fender necks and bodies. The parts were shipped to Mexico for assembly with mexican made pickups and far eastern hardware and electronics. The overall quality of these guitars turned out to be below the Squiers made in Japan and Korea, whose production came to an end around the time the mexican made guitars with the black label surfaced, yet above Squiers made in China and Indonesia, whose production had not yet begun at the time. The guitars ended up on the american and european market for just about as much as a guitar from the regular “Standard” series would cost at the time.

Some (not all!) of the guitars were sold for a few bucks less as they came with 1-ply pickguards and hardware of slightly lesser quality. Those guitars (and those only!) had an additional smaller “Squier Series” label on front of the headstock, right were the artist models have the artist’s signature. Though some owners probably sanded off their “Squier Series” label, it is not true that all guitars with a black label had a “Squier Series” label in the first place. Most guitars with the black label featured tuners and bridges of decent quality as well as 3-ply pickguards. These guitars did not have the additional “Squier Series” label and were called the “Traditional Series”, which was stated nowhere on the headstock but the guitars were listed, advertised and sold as such.

The “Traditional Series” can be considered the slightly better but the “Squier Series” sure is the more obscure. At the end of the day, there really is not that much difference between the two. The most significant difference can be found on the Telecaster. The Telecaster from the “Traditional Series” had the traditional through-body stringing, while the Telecasters from the “Squier Series” were Top Loaders with different bridges, saddles and no string holes in the back.

The guitars from that very “Squier Series” are official and genuine Fender guitars like any mexican made Fender guitar regardless, and if you have a mexican made Fender Telecaster, Stratocaster or Precision Bass with a black label and a serial number beginning with MN3, MN4, MN5, MN6, MN7 or MN8, you have a genuine Fender guitar – with or without a small “Squier Series” label."

Before reading that, I had acquired one of the black label "squier series" models with an MN5...... serial number. If it isn't as good as my two "regular" MIM strats, it's very close. Here's mine;


so please help me tell me if the squier MIM are good guitars?

thank you


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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:01 pm
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Well I can only tell you from my Experience. I have a 95 Mexican Squier, a 2008 American Deluxe, 3 MIM Fenders (2 strats and a tele) and a Squier CV.

I love all my guitars, they are all different. When I bought my American Deluxe, I though I had found my holy grail guitar, the one I would hand to my son someday. But at the end of the day, the Guitar I almost always reach for, the guitar I consider my number 1, is my Mexican Squier. It just feels right, of course I've replaced all the electronics, but I've never had a more comfortable strat, the kind where you put it on and it feel like its an extension of your body.

My Mexican squier quickly taught me it doesn't matter whats on the label. Maybe I got the gem, but many guys swear by their Mexican Squiers. The only thing that bugs me is I play the guitar I paid $125 for way more then the one I paid 1200 for. Of Course your mileage may vary...


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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:21 pm
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are the mim squier bodies the same as mim fenders or are they the smaller normal squier type?


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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:27 pm
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U just picked up a 94 MIM fender tele "squier series" all I can find is the quote that you posted above. But when I got it it was sitting next to a MIM tele 60th anv. The only difference that I could find was the top loading bridge on the one I got and the string through body on the other and the older tuners on the Squier series. The original teles were top loaders and so are Les Pauls so it must not matter that much.


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Post subject: Re: Squier Made in Mexico in 90
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:45 pm
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Just picked up a black label P bass on CL did not know much about this run of guitars in the 90's. With the info you put out I feel as if I got a good deal. Nice straight neck road worn body makes it look cool.Gonna switch out electronics am looking forward to gigging this bass.


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Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 7:43 pm
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I bought one of these years ago for about 100 bucks. I learned on this guitar and when I started looking to up grade I found that the 600 buck strats didn't look feel or sound any better (guess I lucked out). I did upgrade the pick guard and had the electronic professionally cleaned (Cost about $50.00) and I really just love this instrument.


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