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Post subject: RockBand 3 Squire
Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:32 pm
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So where the heck is this guitar. I'm an avid guitar player who can't wait to mary guitar with games.


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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:14 pm
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Fender has been seriously weird about this product. They continue to refuse any comment about whether it has midi or not, even though finally a little ad blurb appeared mentioning it had midi out. They brought the thing to CES and played it, but never referred to the midi output once. Now they're back stonewalling on it, saying only "we will update you when there is more information about this product". Guys, you already SHOWED IT and had guys PLAYING IT back in June fer cripes sake!

If they were serious about selling it into this xmas market, they'd need it in channels by August. I used to work for Hasbro. So they're either dropping it altogether, or had a production issue and won't bring it til January or beyond.

Problem being they have to hold the price below $200 and given it's a real guitar (unlike that plastic Mustang from Mad Katz) there's no profit margin.

A troubled product with a highly suspect market. The YouRock guitar was brought into the same market, at $199, and crashed and burned before it even lifted off. There's a ton of price resistance for a toy that simply controls a videogame, and trying to break the sacrosanct $200 barrier by adding this "real guitar" stuff answers a question nobody's asking.

I just hope they make ONE, and sell it to me. To me it looks like a great, cheap midi guitar. I could care less about bleeps and bloops and little blobs of color on a guitar neck. That what daycare centers are for.


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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:22 pm
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There's actually a link to it on the front page at www.fender.com right now.

The link is to the page you're referring to that's been there for a while:

http://www.fender.com/features/rockband3/

But if they were trying to make everyone forget about it, I don't think that they'd put it on the front page.

That page says it outputs MIDI and the fine print says that the Mad Catz Midi to USB adapter is required to use it with the game, so I'd assume it really is MIDI.

I'd be surprised if they're able to bring this in at $199. I'm thinking $249.00+ is probably more like it.


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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:15 pm
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Yeah, but that's an awfully tough price point for a toy. They're throwing away the midi part, which really ought to be co-equal with the game controller aspect, especially since $229 or $249 is peanuts for a half-decent midi guitar, but a king's ransom for a RB3 accessory. I doubt it's going to be much as an actual guitar, probably in the Squier Affinity range.

If they marketed it co-equally game controller/midi guitar/real guitar they might have something, but this leading with the game controller stuff is an awfully hard sell at that price point.

But I guess they intend to bring it out if it's on the mag cover. Sure been stealthy about it since CES. And basically, xmas sales says it has to be in stores...now.


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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:49 pm
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Saw a post where a guy was quoting a Fender rep on the RB3 Strat, "We got that stuff in a $249 guitar body so sure, it's going to be higher than that." I'm sure he was talking list, not street. An Affinity body is not worth $249 in any known universe I've ever been in.


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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:09 pm
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the picture on the site doesn't look like it has a truss rod in the neck, unless it's under the pick guard.


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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:57 pm
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There you go. This has to be an extremely low-end body/neck assembly to bring it all in as an affordable toy accessory. I hope they didn't cut so many corners it's unplayable.

For me, I'd love it be say, $399 with good build quality, half-decent frets and finish, and a clean midi output without glitches and artifacts.

But the toy aspect may be a killer for us serious midi folks here. What it takes to make the little sliding colored blobs on the neck happy at the daycare center is not what it takes to make music.


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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:59 am
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for those unaware they have a new page up about the rockband controller, and from what i can see, if its even possible the truse rod able to be on the side? not sure if its for something else or if it is for the truse rod but it could be possible?

anyway i'll let you decide

http://admin.fender.com/rockband3/exclusive/

im hoping my cheap behringer squier replica will last long enough to learn abit before i have to start learning properly lol

also does anyone know if cheap squier replicas have whammy bar ability since mine has the socket to screw 1 into but unsure if it will work with it


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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:51 pm
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I'd imagine it will be in the $179 - $199 range street. They seem ashamed of its midi capabilities. I'd say, they're burying their lead! A zero-latency midi guitar for $179??? That's news, baby. If it works that is.


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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:18 pm
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...I doubt it's going to be much as an actual guitar, probably in the Squier Affinity range...


I'll bet most Affinity's are better than a piece of crap plywood video-game controller. I can't imagine paying $250 for a RB3 controller. Why wouldn't one just transfer their skills from the Mustang controller to an actual guitar.

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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:22 pm
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That's it, Fender is in very shaky product territory with a potentially $199 game controller. The assumption is the player gets to add real guitar playing to the RB3 gameplay. But that's entirely bogus, since the game play itself has nothing whatsoever to do with playing an actual guitar. It's a silly Space Invaders twitch game.

Now as a sub-$200 midi guitar, THAT'S a product! Fender doesn't get it. But the market will straighten them out soon enough next Spring.


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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:26 pm
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It's real playing, the pro mode is following tabs on screen.

Anyways, it's $279 and looks decent enough.

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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:23 am
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$279 msrp translates to either $179 or $199 street. I'd say the leap from the standard RB twitch game up to the much more complex tab play of RB3 is not just another level of the game, it's asking players to instantly become guitar players, however fakey it may be. I doubt there's a real market for that compared to the wide-spectrum twitch mode. It's like going from Space Invaders to Halo 3. It's not a level jump, it's an entire game jump.

A few hardcore music nuts will love it, the vast majority will just go back to twitch world.

Here's to Fender supporting the axe as an honest-to-gosh midi guitar, and not as a weak afterthought to an overpriced toy.


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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:45 pm
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New site for this axe:

http://www.fender.com/features/rockband3/

You don't really learn anything new there, just same old, same old. At least they dedicated 3% of it to mentioning its midi capabilities.

I forgot to use it with RB3 you have to buy yet another box to interface to the game. Holy carp. This thing is such a gaming brick it's ridiculous. And they missed the critical Christmas sales season. Heads will roll.

Now it's all down to: can it perform accurate, glitch-free midi output into a PC? No other midi guitar controller can at this price point. Will this break the mold? Or just plain mold?


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Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:14 pm
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I can't get a clear answer if the RB3 game is going to sell separately or come with the guitar and trying to find a Madcatz midi controller, good luck.
I would go a head and buy the game now since its already in stores but I would hate to do that only to find out that the guitar will come with RB3 when its released later and then be stuck with two games.

Another answer I cant find is who other then Fender is going to be taking pre-orders.


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