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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:31 pm
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Ok I just purchased a squier bullet strat sunburst and I love it!! I want it to sound more like a stratocaster though so would i be able to swap my regular pickups and knobs for a fender custom shop set of noisless pickups and knobs?? or is this not possible?? thank you so much for your help!


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Yes you can, but you will then have a guitar that the electrics are worth more then the guitar.

And them would it play as good as a MIA or MIM?

No, cheap wood will sound like cheap wood.

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Ok so do you have anything good to say about the Squier CLASSIC VIBE Stratocaster 60s?? Does it play good or is it close to that fender strat sound?


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Ok so do you have anything good to say about the Squier CLASSIC VIBE Stratocaster 60s?? Does it play good or is it close to that fender strat sound?


Okay, I guess I was a bit too short with my first answer, sorry.

IMHO the Squire series is made to be an entry level instrument, good for a beginner and will work for a while, but it will not hold up over the long run and it will not have the tone and quality of the American made ones or the Mexican made ones and I will ad the Japanese ones as well.

Look, lets run the numbers...

To take this guitar up to Strat standards you will need to replace the pick ups, the pick guard, the pots, capacitor, output jack ad shielding replace the Tremolo and the tuners.
After that you will need to have it set up and when your all said and done, you will have more money tied up in a 100 dollar guitar then if you had just bought a MIA model to start with.

My latest guitar is a MIM unit that acoustically plays wonderfully, and i have now added a new tremolo (brass blocked) custom shop pick ups and a new cap and a new pick guard, it's a great guitar, but I am in it so deep I can't ever recover it.
And I could have gotten a MIA unit for about the same money.

And that is after I did all the work myself (I used to work at CBS) if I had a Luthier do it you could add 200 more for labor,

If you are a beginner, I would suggest you get a used MIM, they are a good unit and can be upgraded but if it is you do not care for the strat, you can sell it for what you paid for it.

If your a player, then it will fall way short of your expectations and you will want to get a better guitar.

The bottom line is, it's your money, I am only trying to help you spend it wisely in the long run.

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well im a beginner and i purchased a squier for my first, my cousin has a band he has been playing since he was 10 and he is 37 now he has a MIM stat has about a thousand tied up in it and he loves it. so i guess that i will probally buy a MIM or MIA about how much is a MIM used?


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well im a beginner and i purchased a squier for my first, my cousin has a band he has been playing since he was 10 and he is 37 now he has a MIM stat has about a thousand tied up in it and he loves it. so i guess that i will probally buy a MIM or MIA about how much is a MIM used?


A new MIM standard Strat is like 499 at GC, so a good used one you should be able to get for 250-300ish.

The newer ones are better then the older ones, so the newer the better.
I like the alder body ones best, but ask is good as well.

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Johnnie_smith wrote:
Ok so do you have anything good to say about the Squier CLASSIC VIBE Stratocaster 60s?? Does it play good or is it close to that fender strat sound?


Yes it is and does. I have one and play it as much as my MIA Fender Stratocasters. It has an Alder body as well. All I can say is I could not spend (at the time) $400 on a MIM Standard when the CV 60 was (at the time) $300, and sounded and played better.

I say this to everyone out there. Play all the guitars in your price range. If you can handle people looking down their nose at your guitar because it is not a "Fender", you can make them eat crow when you plug in and play and it sounds better. Add some good after market pickups and you will have a definate winner there.

Do you know why Jeff Healey played Squier, because he could not see the label. See the link below, Jeff is sitting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqU9RZqvFKY

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Did you know the first Squiers were made in Fullerton California?

They were, I know because i was working for CBS at the time, then for years later they were made in Japan, then same plant that makes the reissues now.

As for Jeff, from his equipment page.
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- A ’30s or ’40s Gibson L-12 arch top guitar (Jazz Wizards)

- Japanese Squier Strats with red single-coil Evans pickups

- Jackson doubleneck (with joined headstocks)

- custom-built US strats with 3 Evans (and later, Seymour Duncan SH-5) humbucking pickups in them and wiring that allowed him to coil-tap individual pickups one at a time.


Seems to me he was playing custom shop Strats as well.

Are you saying the ones made in Indonesia and China are of the same quality?

There not.

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sound like an expensive guitar = close, people who might not know or just watch a gig would say that sounds great.. however a guitarist can listen well if the sound of the guitar is good or not..

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Jeffytune wrote:
Did you know the first Squiers were made in Fullerton California?

They were, I know because i was working for CBS at the time, then for years later they were made in Japan, then same plant that makes the reissues now.


You may be telling the truth but this is mentioned nowhere and you are the only person I have ever met to even speculate on this. Even the official Fender literature states that the First Squiers were made in Japan in 1982. The only american Squiers reported are the ones made in 1989-90 in the Corona Factory. Why would Fender hide this if they were made at Fullerton?


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