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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:48 pm
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Cool! Anyone know how the guitar senses the actual notes pressed on the fretboard?

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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:11 am
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2-dimensional zoning using pressure-sensitive keyboard triggers. No lag, instant note ID.

The YouRock uses the same principle which eliminates buttons as in the Yamaha EZ series. Hate buttons. Trouble is the YouRock is just very cheaply and very badly made and has a ton of sensitivity adjustment and glitch issues.

Since the Fender is coming in at the same price point, fear would be running into similar issues. But at least this product has Fender behind it. That counts for something. Guess we'll know next March.


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Sounds interesting. I looked on web but couldn't find much about it. Can you post any links? I'm interested in reading up on it. Thanks


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Nothing to post. Just the old original CES vid on YT, and this newer page with imbedded vid which references midi like some throwaway.

So weird since Fender sells the Roland-ready midi Strat and certainly gets the importance of a guitar controller that outputs midi. Why are they being so closed-mouth about the midi? To me it's an overpriced brick as an RB3 controller but gold to musicians who need to input midi data to sequencers and control VSTi's.

Snap out of it, Fender! You're gonna sell far more of these as dirt cheap and cool midi guitars than extremely expensive RB3 controllers answering a question no kids are asking.

Could it be that the beancounters are afraid this is going to kill Roland-Ready Strat sales so they're trying to bury the midi here? Maybe they're not so crazy:

Roland-Ready Strat: $800
Roland GI-20 (required): $500
Latency/output lag: 30 - 150ms (bass strings slower to read)

Squier RB3 Strat (est. street): $179
Required extra hardware to output midi: NONE
Latency/output lag: ZERO

Crazy like a fox I'd say. One unit has a ton of margin and even requires an expensive separate hardware purchase, the other slim to none. Protect the high margin items at all cost.


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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:13 pm
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Guess they've finally pulled aside the curtain:

http://www.fender.com/features/rockband3/theguitar.php

MIDI CAPABILITIES

In addition to Rock Band 3 gameplay and amplifier use, the Squier by Fender Stratocaster Guitar and Controller can be used as a MIDI controller for sequencers and recording software. The standard five-pin MIDI output jack on the edge of the lower bout on the treble string side provides easy connection to computers and compatible devices via MIDI interfaces.


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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:30 pm
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They didn't add anything new from their original info page about 6 weeks ago. Until we start to see vids of guys playing actual VSTis, it remains a junky overpriced toy requiring yet another $ box just to hook up to RB3.

But if it can deliver good, clean midi for $199, all bets are off.


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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:09 pm
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You won't see vids/reports like that until after release, especially if you are talking ms of latency.

The fact that Fender has posted copy about MIDI control in conjunction with a partner authoring authoring software link means they are serious about this being a MIDI controller.

Put it this way though: Don't expect gold from lead.
It will probably be a good introductory MIDI controller (same as it's a good introductory guitar), but MIDI-control is not the priority of the design; so it will probably not satisfy you.


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There is no latency: it's an instant-sensing active system, not a pitch-reader.

My midi needs are minimal. It's just that the YouRock crashed and burned, it's a very flawed and failed product with weak support.

I expect better out of Fender. Not a fancy Ztar with 10,000 features. Just glitch-free clean midi output. I don't even expect trickiness like hammer-ons and offs and slide. Those are almost impossible to implement well at this price point.

Just good adjustable picking sensitivity with no dropped notes or ghost notes on either finger-picking or pick attacks.

It could happen. Look at the Mustang amp series. Fender can surprise you.


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