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How many ponts would you rate it? 5-highest
5 points 38%  38%  [ 3 ]
4 points 50%  50%  [ 4 ]
3 points 13%  13%  [ 1 ]
2 points 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
1 point 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Worst guitar I've seen... =l 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 5:25 am
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Guys..,

I am planning to mod my Squier Vintage Modified Strat SSS.

It's color is in metallic red on a red shell p'guard.

just like this..,

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After my mod, hopefully, it would look like this...
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just ignore the Fender decal... =p

My planned mod list:

Fender Schaller Black Locking TM's
GFS Premium Overwound Alnico SSS
Black pickguard
Fender Black knobs, trem cover,switch tip
bone nut
another string tree



Any other suggestion or comments about my planned mod??

PS: oh., and if you want to hear the sound of the pu's.., here's the link.. http://store.guitarfetish.com/provalstpiou.html there are audio samples there.


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I don't understand what you are asking for in your poll - so I didn't select anything.

Instead - since you asked for some opinions - I'll say this.
I have two Squier Stratocaster guitars. Both are excellent instruments.

I did do some mods, but not because they needed the mods - just because I wanted to do them.

My recommendation would be to just play the guitar and enjoy it and save your money toward another guitar. Some people want a guitar with the mods - but don't want to pay for it. So, it is very unlikely that you would be able to recover your money spent on the mods if you ever want to sell the guitar.

If you are just wanting a different look - the looks of a strat can be changed a lot by just changing out the plastic parts. And then can be changed back to stock if you decide to sell it.

Pickups are a different matter. That gets more into personal "taste" than any 'right' or 'wrong' sound. Another thought on the sound issue - try adjusting your amp, pedals and guitar to get the sound you are wanting before doing a pickup swap. It's also a lot less expensive that way. :lol:

Of course, you can do as I did and look at the mods and money spent as an education and money spent learning. I just wish I could have learned without spending so much in the process. :lol:

As always - ANYTHING I, or anyone else, posts is just our opinions. The above is my opinion. I like my Squiers. They play nicely and produce a sound I like.

Enjoy the music and playing. :wink:

P.S. If you like the sound samples of the pickups on the link in you post - you might try rolling off the tone as needed and using a compressor along with the overdrive. That might get you somewhere in the vicinity of the sound. :wink: Just a thought :wink:


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I don't understand what you are asking for in your poll - so I didn't select anything.

Instead - since you asked for some opinions - I'll say this.
I have two Squier Stratocaster guitars. Both are excellent instruments.

I did do some mods, but not because they needed the mods - just because I wanted to do them.

My recommendation would be to just play the guitar and enjoy it and save your money toward another guitar. Some people want a guitar with the mods - but don't want to pay for it. So, it is very unlikely that you would be able to recover your money spent on the mods if you ever want to sell the guitar.

If you are just wanting a different look - the looks of a strat can be changed a lot by just changing out the plastic parts. And then can be changed back to stock if you decide to sell it.

Pickups are a different matter. That gets more into personal "taste" than any 'right' or 'wrong' sound. Another thought on the sound issue - try adjusting your amp, pedals and guitar to get the sound you are wanting before doing a pickup swap. It's also a lot less expensive that way. :lol:

Of course, you can do as I did and look at the mods and money spent as an education and money spent learning. I just wish I could have learned without spending so much in the process. :lol:

As always - ANYTHING I, or anyone else, posts is just our opinions. The above is my opinion. I like my Squiers. They play nicely and produce a sound I like.

Enjoy the music and playing. :wink:


First of all, thanks for your opinion...

Second, I want to mod it because I want to change the overall aspect of my guitar.. from the looks to the electronics.. I don't have any intentions on putting it on a sale.., because it has sentimental value for me... So, I don;t care if I don't get back the money I paid for the mod.., I just want it to look and sounds the way I like.. ^_^

I really want to change the pickup in my strat because it sounds to thin for me... I play mostly Alternative Rock... the first solution I did was to experiment with the settings in my amp..., and all of that does nothing to suit my taste.... And my friend suggested to me to change the pu's to a hotter pu's.., And that is what I'm going to do...

Cosmetically, I also want to change the looks of my strat..., I don't like the look of a red-on-red strat... (I bought red because it's my fav color although I hate red-on-red, It can be modified as I said to myself back then). I want it to be black-on-red.., and that is what I'm gonna do... ^_^


But.., just like what you said in your opinion, I want to save more and just buy a new guitar, better guitar...
But..., on the other side of my mind, I love the the neck and specially the weight of my red-on-red strat... It's neck, for me, is the nicest of all the necks I'VE TRIED (incl. Squier deluxe, standard, affinity, bullet, SE). And the body is lighter than most of the MIM's..

Thanks for the opinions again.. I appreciated it very much.. And about the poll, sorry if I didn't specify what I wanted to be answered. It is the cosmetics..=p from the red-on-red to black-on-red.. Does it looks much better or not... =p

Again, thanks =p and uhm.., sorry for my grammar.. And if my grammar isn't right, please correct me...

PS: as for the pedal use, I can't do that option..., cuz I don't have any pedal.. =p

I enjoy music.. A LOT !!! As some do say, "Music is my life" =p


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SaverzerX wrote:

First of all, thanks for your opinion...

Second, I want to mod it because I want to change the overall aspect of my guitar.. from the looks to the electronics.. I don't have any intentions on putting it on a sale.., because it has sentimental value for me... So, I don;t care if I don't get back the money I paid for the mod.., I just want it to look and sounds the way I like.. ^_^

I really want to change the pickup in my strat because it sounds to thin for me... I play mostly Alternative Rock... the first solution I did was to experiment with the settings in my amp..., and all of that does nothing to suit my taste.... And my friend suggested to me to change the pu's to a hotter pu's.., And that is what I'm going to do...

Cosmetically, I also want to change the looks of my strat..., I don't like the look of a red-on-red strat... (I bought red because it's my fav color although I hate red-on-red, It can be modified as I said to myself back then). I want it to be black-on-red.., and that is what I'm gonna do... ^_^


But.., just like what you said in your opinion, I want to save more and just buy a new guitar, better guitar...
But..., on the other side of my mind, I love the the neck and specially the weight of my red-on-red strat... It's neck, for me, is the nicest of all the necks I'VE TRIED (incl. Squier deluxe, standard, affinity, bullet, SE). And the body is lighter than most of the MIM's..

Thanks for the opinions again.. I appreciated it very much.. And about the poll, sorry if I didn't specify what I wanted to be answered. It is the cosmetics..=p from the red-on-red to black-on-red.. Does it looks much better or not... =p

Again, thanks =p and uhm.., sorry for my grammar.. And if my grammar isn't right, please correct me...

PS: as for the pedal use, I can't do that option..., cuz I don't have any pedal.. =p

I enjoy music.. A LOT !!! As some do say, "Music is my life" =p


It seems you have already decided what you want and what you like, and that the cost doesn't bother you - so I would say - go for it! :lol:

One other suggestion, because of the sound and music you said you liked;
Since you are going to change the pickups and pickguard - might I suggest thinking about using some kind of humbucker pickups?

If you want to retain the look and size of single coils, DiMarzio makes some nice twin blade pickups - specifically The Chopper, The Fast Track and The Fast Track 2. I have them in one of my Strats. Still has some Strat bite, but with some of the fullness that a humbucker gives. They can push a tube amp into overdrive.

Then, on the other hand - One of my Squiers is one of the Double Fat Strats they made a few years ago. Those two full sized humbuckers can crank out some fantastic sound that is VERY FULL - definitely not thin. Just offering some food for thought.

Just a couple of suggestions for you to think about. :D

BTW - modding can be a very fun experience - just costly IMHO. :D

About the looks between the two pictures you posted - I like both. Sorry.
That's why I have several guitars - I can't be satisfied with just one. That gets expensive too. :lol:


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If you play alternative rock you always do what Billy Corgan did to his Strat... put some blade humbuckers (humbuckers designed to be size of single coils) in there or maybe just one in the bridge. That will probably give your guitar/sound a little more "umph"... but I ain't no expert and it's just my 2 cents which ain't much.

As for looks... I think your idea looks pretty sweet and it does beat red on red


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I have 2 squier strats made in korea. What I did to mine was changed out the pick-ups done the set up work and changed the pick guard on 1. I also have n old les-paul my squiers is what I use in gigs with the band the play and sound just as good as any thing out there. Ya I would do something about the red on red and put a good set of pick-ups in it. but great guitar


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SaverzerX,

I really like the way your concept looks. I never tell anyone not to do something to their guitar. One of the ways you make your own sound is to make changes to your guitar. Jut to let you know, I have seen the black string trees too, just keeping it more uniform.

Not sure what the pickups will sound like. I bet it will sound good though.

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rholloman wrote:
SaverzerX wrote:

First of all, thanks for your opinion...

Second, I want to mod it because I want to change the overall aspect of my guitar.. from the looks to the electronics.. I don't have any intentions on putting it on a sale.., because it has sentimental value for me... So, I don;t care if I don't get back the money I paid for the mod.., I just want it to look and sounds the way I like.. ^_^

I really want to change the pickup in my strat because it sounds to thin for me... I play mostly Alternative Rock... the first solution I did was to experiment with the settings in my amp..., and all of that does nothing to suit my taste.... And my friend suggested to me to change the pu's to a hotter pu's.., And that is what I'm going to do...

Cosmetically, I also want to change the looks of my strat..., I don't like the look of a red-on-red strat... (I bought red because it's my fav color although I hate red-on-red, It can be modified as I said to myself back then). I want it to be black-on-red.., and that is what I'm gonna do... ^_^


But.., just like what you said in your opinion, I want to save more and just buy a new guitar, better guitar...
But..., on the other side of my mind, I love the the neck and specially the weight of my red-on-red strat... It's neck, for me, is the nicest of all the necks I'VE TRIED (incl. Squier deluxe, standard, affinity, bullet, SE). And the body is lighter than most of the MIM's..

Thanks for the opinions again.. I appreciated it very much.. And about the poll, sorry if I didn't specify what I wanted to be answered. It is the cosmetics..=p from the red-on-red to black-on-red.. Does it looks much better or not... =p

Again, thanks =p and uhm.., sorry for my grammar.. And if my grammar isn't right, please correct me...

PS: as for the pedal use, I can't do that option..., cuz I don't have any pedal.. =p

I enjoy music.. A LOT !!! As some do say, "Music is my life" =p


It seems you have already decided what you want and what you like, and that the cost doesn't bother you - so I would say - go for it! :lol:

One other suggestion, because of the sound and music you said you liked;
Since you are going to change the pickups and pickguard - might I suggest thinking about using some kind of humbucker pickups?

If you want to retain the look and size of single coils, DiMarzio makes some nice twin blade pickups - specifically The Chopper, The Fast Track and The Fast Track 2. I have them in one of my Strats. Still has some Strat bite, but with some of the fullness that a humbucker gives. They can push a tube amp into overdrive.

Then, on the other hand - One of my Squiers is one of the Double Fat Strats they made a few years ago. Those two full sized humbuckers can crank out some fantastic sound that is VERY FULL - definitely not thin. Just offering some food for thought.

Just a couple of suggestions for you to think about. :D

BTW - modding can be a very fun experience - just costly IMHO. :D

About the looks between the two pictures you posted - I like both. Sorry.
That's why I have several guitars - I can't be satisfied with just one. That gets expensive too. :lol:



Oh! I forgot humbuckers.. =p oh well.., Do you have any experience on the hot rails?? DiMarzio is pretty nice too..., My cousin has one in the bridge position on his superstrat... I love the crunch it gave... Might have overlooked it... So there are really too much options.. Oh god! I am confused ha!.. What do you think of the hot rails set?? Are they good??..

Is ebay a good place in buying DiMarzio's?? I thought of that cuz I don't think the local stores here have them..

Thanks again..., especially for the reminder... =p I really want to do HH settings but unfortunately, the body of my strat is routed HSS so I don't have any choice other than the SSS and HSS...


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Johnny B. Goode wrote:
If you play alternative rock you always do what Billy Corgan did to his Strat... put some blade humbuckers (humbuckers designed to be size of single coils) in there or maybe just one in the bridge. That will probably give your guitar/sound a little more "umph"... but I ain't no expert and it's just my 2 cents which ain't much.

As for looks... I think your idea looks pretty sweet and it does beat red on red


Is the Hot rail considered as a blade humbucker??

Just curious.., If it is.., would it be too hot too blend with the other single coils??


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Guys.., just a bit of question here..,

What do you think of the Blue-Silver-Red Lace Sensor pu's combination??


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SaverzerX,

I really like the way your concept looks. I never tell anyone not to do something to their guitar. One of the ways you make your own sound is to make changes to your guitar. Jut to let you know, I have seen the black string trees too, just keeping it more uniform.

Not sure what the pickups will sound like. I bet it will sound good though.


I didn't know that there were black string trees until now.... Might be a good additional on my mod... Thanks!

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I have 2 squier strats made in korea. What I did to mine was changed out the pick-ups done the set up work and changed the pick guard on 1. I also have n old les-paul my squiers is what I use in gigs with the band the play and sound just as good as any thing out there. Ya I would do something about the red on red and put a good set of pick-ups in it. but great guitar


Nice! I just thought that Squiers nowadays are very underrated... They do make nice guitars...


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SaverzerX wrote:
Johnny B. Goode wrote:
If you play alternative rock you always do what Billy Corgan did to his Strat... put some blade humbuckers (humbuckers designed to be size of single coils) in there or maybe just one in the bridge. That will probably give your guitar/sound a little more "umph"... but I ain't no expert and it's just my 2 cents which ain't much.

As for looks... I think your idea looks pretty sweet and it does beat red on red


Is the Hot rail considered as a blade humbucker??

Just curious.., If it is.., would it be too hot too blend with the other single coils??


Yeah, and I don't think so. It allows people with the standard SSS Strat set up to get the HSS without rerouting.

And having played both the Billy Corgan and Omar Rodriguez-Lopez signature guitars which both use blade humbuckers I think they sound pretty good


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SaverzerX wrote:
rholloman wrote:
SaverzerX wrote:

First of all, thanks for your opinion...

Second, I want to mod it because I want to change the overall aspect of my guitar.. from the looks to the electronics.. I don't have any intentions on putting it on a sale.., because it has sentimental value for me... So, I don;t care if I don't get back the money I paid for the mod.., I just want it to look and sounds the way I like.. ^_^

I really want to change the pickup in my strat because it sounds to thin for me... I play mostly Alternative Rock... the first solution I did was to experiment with the settings in my amp..., and all of that does nothing to suit my taste.... And my friend suggested to me to change the pu's to a hotter pu's.., And that is what I'm going to do...

Cosmetically, I also want to change the looks of my strat..., I don't like the look of a red-on-red strat... (I bought red because it's my fav color although I hate red-on-red, It can be modified as I said to myself back then). I want it to be black-on-red.., and that is what I'm gonna do... ^_^


But.., just like what you said in your opinion, I want to save more and just buy a new guitar, better guitar...
But..., on the other side of my mind, I love the the neck and specially the weight of my red-on-red strat... It's neck, for me, is the nicest of all the necks I'VE TRIED (incl. Squier deluxe, standard, affinity, bullet, SE). And the body is lighter than most of the MIM's..

Thanks for the opinions again.. I appreciated it very much.. And about the poll, sorry if I didn't specify what I wanted to be answered. It is the cosmetics..=p from the red-on-red to black-on-red.. Does it looks much better or not... =p

Again, thanks =p and uhm.., sorry for my grammar.. And if my grammar isn't right, please correct me...

PS: as for the pedal use, I can't do that option..., cuz I don't have any pedal.. =p

I enjoy music.. A LOT !!! As some do say, "Music is my life" =p


It seems you have already decided what you want and what you like, and that the cost doesn't bother you - so I would say - go for it! :lol:

One other suggestion, because of the sound and music you said you liked;
Since you are going to change the pickups and pickguard - might I suggest thinking about using some kind of humbucker pickups?

If you want to retain the look and size of single coils, DiMarzio makes some nice twin blade pickups - specifically The Chopper, The Fast Track and The Fast Track 2. I have them in one of my Strats. Still has some Strat bite, but with some of the fullness that a humbucker gives. They can push a tube amp into overdrive.

Then, on the other hand - One of my Squiers is one of the Double Fat Strats they made a few years ago. Those two full sized humbuckers can crank out some fantastic sound that is VERY FULL - definitely not thin. Just offering some food for thought.

Just a couple of suggestions for you to think about. :D

BTW - modding can be a very fun experience - just costly IMHO. :D

About the looks between the two pictures you posted - I like both. Sorry.
That's why I have several guitars - I can't be satisfied with just one. That gets expensive too. :lol:



Oh! I forgot humbuckers.. =p oh well.., Do you have any experience on the hot rails?? DiMarzio is pretty nice too..., My cousin has one in the bridge position on his superstrat... I love the crunch it gave... Might have overlooked it... So there are really too much options.. Oh god! I am confused ha!.. What do you think of the hot rails set?? Are they good??..

Is ebay a good place in buying DiMarzio's?? I thought of that cuz I don't think the local stores here have them..

Thanks again..., especially for the reminder... =p I really want to do HH settings but unfortunately, the body of my strat is routed HSS so I don't have any choice other than the SSS and HSS...


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Guys.., just a bit of question here..,

What do you think of the Blue-Silver-Red Lace Sensor pu's combination??


I like that Strat with the DiMarzios pretty well. When I got it, it had the Blue-Silver-Red Lace Sensor pu's combination. The DiMarzios are a much better balanced combination as well as being more powerful - of course this is IMHO.

I should add, I also replaced the pots and capacitor when I changed the pickups. All the pots are one meg now, and the cap is the modern 022 cap.
I put the Chopper in the neck position, with the Fast Track 1 in the middle position and the Fast Track 2 in the bridge position.

These are all humbucker pickups, in a single coil size. So they will fit any strat with any routing.

I don't know about ebay - I bought mine from Musicians Friend years ago.

You can check them out for yourself at;

First got to http://dimarzio.com/site/#/pickups/ Then select "Strat" at the bottom of the page, then "Hum Canceling Strat" on the left, then the pickup name on the left. They are listed on the left of the page by the names I gave above. Also, the stock numbers are DR184, DP181 and DP182

Good luck! :D


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Alrighty, I'm not taking part in the pole either as much of this is more about personal preference than anything else. That said, a few of my own opinions here...

Starting with the original post and questions...

First, I think locking tuners are a waste. I don't really have a problem with the black aesthetics but personally I'd never waste the extra money to get locking tuners...I know some folks swear by them but to me they're more of a gimmick than anything else...you'll get more out of a proper setup in any case. That said however...and again this is a personal thing, but when I switched my '96 MIM over to the black cosmetics, I kept the chrome tuners instead of going to black. Ok...I was born in '65 and I really am an old hot rodder at heart and I certainly do remember the days of big chrome bumpers (like on my bud's old '69 Skylark! Wow!) so personally I'm of the attitude that "it's just not cool if the chrome don't shine". In other words, personally I prefer the chrome tuners myself and chrome bridges...I don't mind the change in plastic but personally I'd stick with the chrome hardware. Sorry but chrome (or at least highly polished nickle plating!) just looks classier than black.


So far I've been quite impressed with GFS pickups (just tossed one in my '03 MIM at the bridge position) but has already been mentioned, I would likely go for a pickup that best suits your style of music. Personally I'm a big fan of Duncan's myself and if you're looking to do it on a budget (and since your looking for black anyways), I'd check out the Duncan "Scorcher Rails" from Guitar Centers...very good all around pickups with plenty of wiring options without breaking the bank (a little over $100 for a full set new). So far the GFS do seem pretty good...I still think the Duncan's are better.

The pickguard and switch tip...aesthetic. If that's what -you- like, put them on there...we're not the folks who are going to be playing it! Hell...if anything I'm kind of partial to a nice purple paisley myself :-)! LOL!

Bone nut...eh...at this point I don't think those are really a big deal either. I've played around with a lot of crap over the years and honestly I'm quite happy with a well filed good ol' plastic nut. Kind of a preference thing...bone, rollers, plastic, graphite, brass...different strokes for different folks. If you do decide to replace the original, regardless of what material you use do make sure you have that nut properly filed after you've installed it...don't "assume" that it's been filed correctly right out of the package! A properly filed nut makes a MUCH bigger difference than any specific material really does.

String T's...I've replaced most of my mine with "roller T's". That said I would only replace what's there...I wouldn't add an "extra" as your post seems to indicate unless you're having a specific problem with the break angle over the nut. If the guitar has 1 traditional T, I'd just replace that with a roller T myself.

Now getting in to the more specific questions...

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Is ebay a good place in buying DiMarzio's?? I thought of that cuz I don't think the local stores here have them..


If you're buying from a reputable dealer, then Ebay is as good as any place else. As with everything these days though, "caution" is generally a good approach...don't get greedy and don't be dumb. There are plenty of horror stories on these forums alone about people who've gotten burned on Ebay because they didn't know what they were doing (or someone was genuinely trying to take advantage of them)...so don't be one of them. -Know- what you're looking at (don't just guess that it's "authentic"), -know- how much it should go for, -know- what condition it should be in, -always- check the seller's feedback and make sure you protect your purchase via Paypal so that if something does turn out to be amiss, you're not completely screwed.

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Is the Hot rail considered as a blade humbucker??


If it's got a twin blade configuration with 2 coils, then yes...it's a humbucker.

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Just curious.., If it is.., would it be too hot too blend with the other single coils??


Ok...this one is a bit subjective...there's some yes and no here. Ok...again I recently put one of those GFS "Lil Killer's" on my '03 MIM Standard in the bridge position along with an older pair of Evan's that I had in a parts box. The main reason I went with the GHS (other than price and that I couldn't find another Evan's) was because of the output. The GFS pickup I got has a very similar ohm reading as the two Evan's pickups with all being rated around 10.5'ish ohms). In other words, those Evan's, even though they are passive single coils, are actually pretty hot little buggers! Now in this case, I'm really getting a pretty nice sound out of her...that GFS is mixing well with those hot Evan's. The Evan's do sound a bit sweeter but the output and over all tone is pretty comparable.

That said if you were to slap a super-hot humbucker in there (for the sake of example, something like a Duncan Invader) along with two more traditional single coils with perhaps lower impedance, then no...you're probably not going to get a "balanced" sound. However, even that isn't always a bad thing either...some folks do like having a hotter hb in the bridge so that instead of using a volume or distortion pedal, when they go in to a lead they just kick her down to the bridge pickup and the hotter HB give them the boost they need. So really, it all depends on what you're looking for. Never be afraid to experiment!

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What do you think of the Blue-Silver-Red Lace Sensor pu's combination??


Personally I don't care for Lace Sensors as a whole. The Gold sensors are nice for blues and such but honestly if I were going to put that kind of money in to pickups, I'd probably go with higher end Duncans or even EMG's myself. This is -just my opinion- but while the Sensors are "ok"...there's better out there.

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I just thought that Squiers nowadays are very underrated... They do make nice guitars...


Abso-fraggin-lutely! I think the newer Squiers are very good instrument for the money and some of them are really pro (or at least semi-pro) instruments. Right now in addition to my 2 Fender MIM Standards, I also have an '85 MIM Squier (just -incredible-) and an '08 Squier Standard (that I'm still working on and tweaking). I also have a Partscaster that's made from a few Squier parts as well (from an '04 Indo Standard). Quiet honestly Squier has some -really- nice stuff out there for the money!

Now I do have to add though that there are some "bad" Squiers out there too...some serious chunks of trash (and I'm sure this is part of what contributes partly to the bad image beyond the gear snob issue). I don't think it's really a fair stereo type to lump all guitars bearing the Squier name in to the same category as a good many people tend to do. From what I understand, my '85 MIJ for example...it came out of the exact same plant as the Fenders of that era, made by the same craftsman and likely from the exact same components. The workman ship is -1st rate- with no doubt at all and she is truly a wonderful player...for all intensive purposes the only significant difference between that '85 Squier and an '85 MIJ Fender is really the logo and little more.

Then there's the '92 Korea-made Squier I had (still got the body in fact)...what a ratty piece of trash! The body is a cheap lam, really poor finish (partly due to the lam I'm sure), crap hardware...even the new Squier Bullets are far superior instruments! Certainly not all Squiers are "bad" by any stretch of the imagination but not all of them are "diamonds in the rough" either.

Also...and again just an opinion here but...I don't think it's really even fair to lump all of the newer Squiers together either. Certainly a Bullet is a very different instrument from an Affinity (with a different market of course) which is quite different still from a Standard or a CV. A Bullet for example is a good beginner's instrument but that's really all it is...a beginner's instrument. A Standard or a CV on the other hand, with a little work and perhaps some "inventive tinkering" -can- be made in to a truly exceptional, gig-worthy instrument. Once you get past the snobbish elitism of the purists who think that anything costing less than a thousand dollars or so isn't worth playing, for most folks just looking for, as I believe Leo Fender put it, "a pretty good guitar" some of those newer Squiers and certainly some of the older ones are indeed very good, very serious and very legitimate instruments.

Ok...just some thoughts and opinions there.
Jim


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