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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:58 pm
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I believe this one is the same model as yours. I bought it new from Guitar Center in Hollywood in July 1996 for $238.14. All modifications have been made by myself. All wear is 100% natural. Shortly after I bought it I replaced the string tree and bridge saddles with Fender replacements. The tree is for a Tele. The original parts, which I still have, were identical to yours. Butterfly tree, block saddles. The trem arm is not original. I wanted a shorter arm but didn't want to cut the original. I ended up keeping the replacement. The original nut broke, and I replaced it with a brass one.

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Mine has ST-360R in the neck route, but ST-360M on the neck. Maybe because yours is Rosewood, mine is Maple? The neck plate is blank.

I replaced the tuners this weekend, because a button on one of the originals rattled alot. While it was unstrung I decided to pull the neck for a look, which led to me finding the neck stamp, then a Google search led to this thread.

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A shot with the new vintage-style Kluson tuners. I decided to keep the original tuner bushings.

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Sorry I didn't pull the pickguard. It was restrung before I found this thread. The electronics are totally stock and identical to yours, including the inspection sticker, which I know on mine reads 3-29-1995. Aside from the saddles and arm, and two extra tension springs I added, the bridge is stock, including its full-sized trem block.

The pickup covers and knobs have yellowed over time. They were typical refrigerator-white when new. The yellowing started with the neck pickup, then middle, and slowly the bridge pickup. The neck has a very thin finish and started showing wear soon after I bought it. I assume it is poly, but has darkened quite a bit. The poly finish on the body shows some dings, but is otherwise bulletproof, very thick, or this guitar would show alot more wear.

Even though it has the larger Fender logo, it has always been my personal belief that this is a Squier. But an unusualy nice Squier. Much nicer than the Squier Affinity series, which I also own an early 1998 model.

For several years I have kept this guitar strung with .13-.56 strings, tuned a half step down. SRV style. It plays like a dream and is priceless to me, I will never part with it.

Let me know if I can answer any other questions about it.


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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:07 am
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Plainly this is the same model as mine, isn't it strange, that although I've posted this on several sites, you are the first person to come up with the exact model?

What do you think the body is made from? Mine is very light and the information from Fender says base wood, but some of their other information has been wrong, such as the 8 screw pick guard and the 3 way switch.

I bought mine in April 2002, secondhand in immaculate condition and complete with Fender hard case for £225.

Over the years I've payed many top end Gibsons and Fenders, but I'd not swap this one for anything and I see it's lightness as a bonus.


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Yellow Peril wrote:
What do you think the body is made from? Mine is very light and the information from Fender says base wood, but some of their other information has been wrong, such as the 8 screw pick guard and the 3 way switch.


I saw that info you got from Fender. It's sounds generic. I think basswood is very possible. I have also heard poplar. I have bought poplar to use for repairs on other guitars, and the color and grain is very close to what I see in the neck pocket. No way to know for sure. But I do know it's not alder, ash or plywood. If you pick it up with an alder Strat in your other hand, you will feel a big difference. Much lighter. Mine is about 7lbs 5ounces.

Nice score! When I bought mine I intended to find a red one, but they didn't have one.


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As you bought yours from new, do you have a model number for it?

I'm curious to see it it differs from the one that Fender quote?

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Yellow Peril wrote:
As you bought yours from new, do you have a model number for it?

I'm curious to see it it differs from the one that Fender quote?

Terry


The bill of sale, which I still have, identifies the guitar by it's T serial number only.


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I've been looking for information on a 'bargain' 21 fret neck acquired for 30 bucks from a local auction site for a while, but I've just found this thread.

OK so the logo is silver Squier inside black. The serial number reads Q026209 (also in silver). The rest is black. There does not appear to be a date stamp on the neck heel. The back of the neck is stamped SQII and something like STX or STY. There is another stamp that looks like a single figure but it's unreadable. There is only one string tree. You can faintly see the edge of the logo transfer. The serial number is on a separate transfer. The inlay dots are black with the 12th pair further apart than normal, like under the 2nd and 5th strings - like paisley strat's neck.

The things that bother me are:

The end of the truss rod channel seems to end pretty roughly in the steel boss.

The fit of the inlay around the truss rod adjustment access seems a bit rough.

The skunk strip has cracked slightly away from the maple in a couple of places, while the tuner end of the skunk strip is not nicely rounded.

Both seem a bit rough for a MIJ or MIK neck assembled in Japan.

But the neck feels so good. The frets are wonderful, shiny, and have a fantastic feel and finsih. It's suffering from back bow which I hope might come right with thicker strings.

Here's a question, I'd apprecaite knowing the width of your neck heels?

Mine is wider at 57 mm (2 1/4") than a normal for a strat so it doesn't fit the normal strat neck pocket.



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Hi I just bought what appears to be the same model for £150 GBP. Neck and body are stamped ST-360-M - sorry just done a fret dress but didn't take any pics. It has the same QC table on the pickguard (note: like yours it has eleven screws rather than the eight in your spec), has a five position pickup selection switch, same machine heads etc etc. It's a 95 model "T" serial number like yours. I was told it was candy apple red, but think it's probably Torino red. It's pretty "roadworn" and strikes me as being fairly crudely built with cheap and questionable quality components compared to my Epiphone Sheraton and Les Paul, but plays nicely and sounds good and I've become rather fond of it despite only having it a few days.

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Excellent thread. As the owner of a MSN6/MN8 it finally all falls into place. I was pretty sure I was on the right track and now I have all the confirmation I needed to verify my thought process.

Lomitus/Yellow Peril, thank you for the info that you've provided. It is still my belief that some of the ones that are being discussed here also include those with that 5 digit numerical number stamped on the neck heel. Everything mentioned here is spot on.

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kiwi fender wrote:
The things that bother me are:

The end of the truss rod channel seems to end pretty roughly in the steel boss.

The fit of the inlay around the truss rod adjustment access seems a bit rough.

The skunk strip has cracked slightly away from the maple in a couple of places, while the tuner end of the skunk strip is not nicely rounded.

Both seem a bit rough for a MIJ or MIK neck assembled in Japan.

But the neck feels so good. The frets are wonderful, shiny, and have a fantastic feel and finsih. It's suffering from back bow which I hope might come right with thicker strings.

Here's a question, I'd apprecaite knowing the width of your neck heels?

Mine is wider at 57 mm (2 1/4") than a normal for a strat so it doesn't fit the normal strat neck pocket.




I meant to have said that my neck has all of the above except for the skunk strip issues - mine's nicely done. The neck does feel very good though.

The width of my neck at the nut and heel is 42mm and 55mm respectively - I think that's 1 21/32" and 2 5/32" for those using the antiquated measuring system!

David


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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:02 am
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Cazz wrote:
Excellent thread. As the owner of a MSN6/MN8 it finally all falls into place.
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What is an MSN6/MN8?


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Ageingroover -

The guitars from that very “Squier Series” are official and genuine Fender guitars like any mexican made Fender guitar regardless, and if you have a mexican made Fender Telecaster, Stratocaster or Precision Bass with a black label and a serial number beginning with MN3, MN4, MN5, MN6, MN7 or MN8, you have a genuine Fender guitar – with or without a small “Squier Series” label.'


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Thanks - very illuminating.


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One thought. Whether mine, Yellow Peril's and Dizi's guitars are "genuine" Fenders is all semantic. The Japanese Squier and the Fender Squire Series guitars appear to have come from the same factory and follow similar specifications directed by the US.

I bought my son a cheapo Strat copy, probably made in China, it has a solid hardwood body, maple neck with rosewood fretboard, generic machine heads, bridge, and electrics. Generally I would say it was no worse an instrument overall than my "genuine" Fender and certainly the quality of the components seems to be about the same. Admittedly, it doesn't sound quite as good, but some new slightly less cheap pickups would sort that out. It has a second hand value of about £30 or £40 GBP.

What I'm saying is that it's a symptom of a lack of judgment and the inability to discriminate that leads us to be interested in what's printed on the headstock. Pick up and instrument, play it, listen to it - is it good? Then the brand is irrelevant - especially when the difference in price can be a factor of ten or more.

Not that any of the above detracts from the interest of this thread, it's really nice to know a bit of the history of these instruments, and as I said I really like mine. And of course, if I ever sell my guitar it's definitely a Genuine Fender and this thread proves it!

Sorry, I think that maybe more than one thought!

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Hello guys! I think this is my first post... Later I'll do a better presentation of my strats...

I came into this thread right after I recently bought an old MIJ Squier black stratocaster. The reason I got this axe was that I needed a good and cheap neck for a personal project, but when I saw that my bargain was a MIJ, the squirrel in my head started to wonder....

The serial number is O020907, the Squier label has a black outlne filled with a silver color, it says "STRATOCASTER(R)" and "MADE IN JAPAN" with smaller letters and has a small Fender logo filled in black.

According to the fender.com dating service states that the "O" Series were manufactured in JAPAN between 1993 and 1994, but ....

One thing that bugs me is that haven't found any reference about the "O" Series... Seems that the "E" ones are more popular, but what do you guys know?

How do I know the specs??? Next weeked I'll be doing the restoration process, so I hope I find the answers on its guts.

The guitar plays very well for a 17-year old guitar. I think I've found a very nice relic.

Cheers!


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The very first electric guitar I ever bought was back in 1985. It was a Japanese built Squier Strat and I still use it today. I put a Hot Rails pickup in the bridge position but it's otherwise unchanged, and it's the best sounding guitar I've ever owned.


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