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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:30 am
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what is the difference between a squire stratocaster and a squire strat and a regular squire :?:

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What? That made no sense whatsoever. A Squier Stratocaster is a Squier strat is a regular Squier... I don't follow what you are saying. Now are you wanting to know the difference between a Squier bullet, affinity, Standard, deluxe, vintage modified, Classic vibe, Older Japanese ( JV, SQ, E, A), older Korean ( E series, pro-tones ), etc?


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Yogi wrote:
What? That made no sense whatsoever. A Squier Stratocaster is a Squier strat is a regular Squier... I don't follow what you are saying. Now are you wanting to know the difference between a Squier bullet, affinity, Standard, deluxe, vintage modified, Classic vibe, Older Japanese ( JV, SQ, E, A), older Korean ( E series, pro-tones ), etc?


i have a feeling he knows nothing about guitars and saw different names for guitars he wanted to buy to even though they are the same guitar. example: he dosnt understand strat is just a short version of stratocaster.


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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:31 pm
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from basic to top notch

Squier Bullet
Squier Affinity
Squier Standard
Squier Classic Vibe and Squier Vintage Modified.

Just my opinion of course.

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You forgot the deluxe


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thank you :D

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Tanner1994 wrote:
Yogi wrote:
What? That made no sense whatsoever. A Squier Stratocaster is a Squier strat is a regular Squier... I don't follow what you are saying. Now are you wanting to know the difference between a Squier bullet, affinity, Standard, deluxe, vintage modified, Classic vibe, Older Japanese ( JV, SQ, E, A), older Korean ( E series, pro-tones ), etc?


i have a feeling he knows nothing about guitars and saw different names for guitars he wanted to buy to even though they are the same guitar. example: he dosnt understand strat is just a short version of stratocaster.


thank you very much :D :D :D


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I was just wondering if "undoubted black" was wanting to know about the "head stock" decal.
Some are printed "SQUIER STRATOCASTER". While other guitar decal's are printed with the short "SQUIER strat" with strat in smaller print.
I know that affinity's have the "short" and all black strat decal.while higher end SQUIERS are a fuller and with two color decals printed "SQUIER STRATOCASTER"...
Higher end gets the better decal :?:


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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:40 am
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undoubted black wrote:
what is the difference between a squire stratocaster and a squire strat and a regular squire :?:


I'm going to toss my $.02 worth in here to try and define this a little for you...these are only my own personal opinions and should be taken as such.

As you've probably gathered from the other responses, there are in fact several different models of "Strats". The problem is that many, if not most people will tend to lump all the variations of Squier Strats in to one catagory..."Squiers"...which tends to make things even more confuzzling.

As dbr sort of eluted to, the various models typically reflect a degree of quality...and thus difference in price. A Squier "Bullet" for example is your very basic, entry level instrument. They typically use inexpensive hardware such as "covered tuners" (as apposed to die cast), they typically use lower quality woods (even plywood in some of the bodies), etc.. More often than not these guitars get a really bad rap as being little more than "junk"...and compared with something like a $1200 American Standard, that is true to some degree. That said, these instruments are aimed at the entry level market...someone just buying their very first guitar or perhaps even parents buying a first guitar for their kid or something. In that regard, these are actually very decent instruments for their price of roughly $120 new.

The next level are the Squier "Affinities". Now I could be wrong here but I think these are the instruments that are usually labeled as "Strat" as apposed to "Stratocaster" (or Bullet obviously). These guitars typically go for a little more new...usually around $180 for the guitar alone but they also come in a "package deal" including a small practice amp, a chord, tuner, etc., often priced at $250 to $350 dollars. These guitars are (usually) an improvement over the Squier Bullets...but still not what most folks would consider a "professional instrument". They tend to have a bit better hardware and better wood (many new Affinities are actually made from Alder just like their expensive Fender brothers), but they tend to lack the details in regards to workmanship and such. Again they are an entry level instrument, but a bit better quality and with a little work (decent fret job, new pickups, etc) they can be made in to fairly decent guitars and for some folks even make a decent "back up" instrument.

From there you get in to the "Standards". This is where you start getting in to a much better quality instrument. There is an endless debate on this but many folks consider these instruments to be quite comparable to the more mid range "Fender Standards" but at a much more affordable price range. Personally I have an '08 Crafted In China (CIC) Squier Standard "Special". For the $200 I payed new (now around $230), this is really a great instrument and it easily compares with guitars costing a great deal more. In a nut shell, these are an "inexpensive" import alternative to the rather pricey American Standards. Again you may not get the same attention to detail as you (should) get with a more expensive instrument...you won't find any "hand rolled" fretboards in this price range but they are very good instruments for the price.

Now I would like to mention that you WILL get people who are overly hung up on "a name". There are people in this world (and on these forums) who wouldn't be caught dead with a Squier of ANY kind...they seem to think that if it says "Squier" or "Crafted in China" (or Indonesia or Japan...) that it's simply inferior. They won't even be seen playing one in a store let alone at a practice where their buds may rip on them for buying a "cheap" guitar. Personally I've used my '08 Standard -a lot-...it's a beautiful instrument, it plays great, sounds decent and I'm always happy to show it off!

Beyond that you have even nicer Squier models...the Deluxe model and particularly the "Classic Vibe" series. Most of these are simply an unbeatable deal...very high quality instruments that play and sound like a much more expensive guitar. Personally given a choice between a guitar such as the Classic Vibe "50's Strat" and a Mexican made Fender Standard, for the difference of $100 to $150 I'd probably take the Squier CV over the "real" Fender.


I would also like very much to add that what I've written so far really applies to "new" instruments. The name "Squier" can be seen on a lot of guitars from the past 25 years or so...some of them are truly great instruments, some aren't. I also have an '85 Squier Stratocaster that was made in Japan...for the $329 I payed for it used, it's a truly outstanding guitar! On the other hand I recently also had a Korean made Squier too that was quiet honestly a very serious POS...really cheap plywood body, cheap sounding pickups...just a very poorly made instrument all around. To look at these two Squiers side by side, most non-guitar-playin'-folk probably would not have noticed too much of a difference...they're both black with a white pickguard...both were starting to show some discoloration from age, etc., etc.. The similarities however stopped once you picked them up and started playing them...the '85 MIJ plays and sounds just like a vintage Strat should and was well worth what I payed for her. The MIK just played and sounded like a badly made piece of junk that honestly wasn't worth $50.

Now in all fairness, it should also be mentioned that as with most brands/models of guitars, this isn't all inclusive either. I've known folks with MIK's for example that were very happy with these instruments and I'm sure that at least a few lemons have come out of Japan. For that matter I recently played a "real" American made Strat that (in my always and ever so humble opinion) wasn't worth anywhere near the $850 the shop was asking for it...it was actually a rather nasty sounding instrument. In other words, when it comes to used guitars, each individual instrument should be judged by the quality of that particular instrument...how it feels, how it sounds and how it plays...and not necessarily by it's designation or place of origin as a whole.

So I hope this helps to answer your question a little more definitively. Since you're asking the question I'm going to assume that you don't really know much about Strats or even guitars in general so my advice to you is don't worry about all of this too much. If you're serious about playing, then just get the best that you can afford (remembering of course to allow room in your budget for a decent amp as well!)...if you can afford to dump $1200 then get an American Standard. If you only have $400 or $500 a Mexican made Standard Stratocaster is certainly a fine instrument. If you only have $200 to $300 or so to spend, a Squier Standard or a CV is a -great- instrument! If you only have $100 or so then a new Bullet or a used Affinity will certainly get you playing and you can always "trade up" later...a lot of folks will start out on a Bullet or an Affinity and then sell it or trade it in for something nice after they've been playing for a while and have a better idea of what they really want/need (or again just keep it as a back up).

Good Luck to you!
Jim


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