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Well.. It kinda sucks that it cracked on you, but I don't think you developed a tuning problem due to a 1" crack in the body. You might just need some new tuning pegs.

I've been playing guitar for a long time, and every guitar I own has that one flaw or nick or some kind of blemish. It sucks when they happen, but you just consider them battle scars and play the heck out of them.

You should see my '57 Reissue Strat:

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I'm just confused where the crack is, can you post a picture?


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I've had a lot of success using super glue to repair cracks, Almost broke my 82 baby V's headstock in half over 15 years ago, flowed it into the crack, And it's still going strong :D , of course you have to carefully sand or shave off the excess glue if you don't have the thin formula super glue.


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weird, did someone yank up on your whammy bar? Seems odd a crack would develop like that on it's own.


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When your guitar is tuned up is your bridge-plate level, or is the rear of it raised up? It should be level or only slightly raised. This is what caused my tuning stability problems.


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Are you sure the wood is cracked? And its not just a crack in the clearcoat of paint? Just wondering. If there is a repairman in your area it can probably be fixed....

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Have you been tinkering with your guitar?It seems that the screw there was tighten up so bad that the wood did crack.


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Post subject: Re: Problem with a 2006 Squier Standard Stratocaster
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:15 am
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My mom bought me a Squier Standard Strat in 2006, and it has developed a crack in the finish and wood through the bass-strings side tremolo post perpendicular to the direction of the neck. The crack is about an inch long.

Has anyone else had this problem? The guitar won't stay in tune worth a damn anymore, and I don't know if it's under warranty or not. Even so, my mom bought it so the receipt has her name on it and not mine.

Has anyone ever had Fender fix or replace a body for this on their guitar? I am really depressed about this. This was actually a pretty good guitar that I used steady for three years now until this happened.


Hey Tom,
I'm going to toss my $.02 in here for what it's worth to you...

First, even if the guitar is no longer under warranty, I would still contact Fender -first-. Ok...it's a long shot and personally I've never had any success with their customer service at all but you may get lucky and as the old saying goes, "it never hurts to ask". Second to that, I would also contact the Guitar Center where the guitar was purchased...with receipt in hand (even if it is you mother's signature on it) and ask if and what they can do. Again it's a long shot but again, never hurts to ask.

Once you've exhausted all other options and there's no hope of anyone taking care of this issue for you "for free", I have a few suggestions on the repair. Personally, I would repair the body you have now rather than get a Saga. I do very well understand what it's like to be "on a limited budget" so you have my sympathies. That said, I've never tried a Saga body before but if you look around the internet, there are -a lot- of mixed comments about them and not all of them are good at all. More over, you will likely be in for -a lot- more work with a Saga body than you will be simply repairing what you already have. If you should really decide to get a new body, I'd just watch Ebay...you do see Squier Standard bodies up there from time to time and the prices aren't usually all that bad...and I'd really go that way over a Saga.


Now since I haven't seen the instrument or the damage, PLEASE take my comments as being subjective...you may need to be quite flexible as far as what I suggest here. That said, I think you are more or less on the right track but I wouldn't use an actual dowel for a couple of reasons. First, if you just go to "Home Depot" (or your local hardware store), you'll probably end up with either poplar or oak...your guitar body is likely agathis or possibly alder. More importantly, the grain of a dowel is going to run lengthwise along the dowel which is going to appose the grain of the body in this repair. What this means is that an actual dowel is going to be very likely to split once you put the strings on and have tension/pressure on that post...aka the work would be for nothing.

From this perspective, I would try and find a small piece of either alder or maple...you could probably get a small piece of either from a local wood supply shop (look up wood crafting in your local directory) for relatively cheap and cut your own plug for the repair. This way the wood you use for the repair will be similar to that in the guitar body and you can have the grain going in the same direction...this isn't for aesthetics but for the structural stability of the repair.

Now personally if it were me....since we're not talking about a vintage instrument or anything that's going to ever be worth any serious money or anything, I would probably over-cut the hole in the body just a bit to allow for a little extra wood in the "plug"...yes, the repair may be a bit more visible but it will also be more stable and more likely to hold. Don't go too gung-ho, but a little extra trim will allow for a little extra new wood. I would also take something like an Exacto knife and trim some of the crack itself out as well and put a little piece of new wood in there too. If you don't repair the actual crack, then pluggin the post hole will be pretty pointless.

Now while I mean no disrespect to the other posters here, please, please, please...do -NOT- use Super Glue!!! I'm on my hands and knees here begging...PLEASE don't do it! Use a good wood glue such as Titebond. Super Glue and other "quick fix" type adhesives will NOT hold up...they get brittle and WILL crack and eventually fall out. On a similar note, I would NOT use Gorilla glue either...yea the stuff is "strong" but it has a tendency to expand as it dries and in a situation like this, could make the problem even worse. Very seriously...I've used Titebond on 3 broken headstocks and have glued up two body blanks with the stuff...for wood, it's about the best you can get over the counter.

Obviously once you have the new wood glued in, be -careful- as you sand it down flush with the body so that you don't screw up the finish around it. Personally I'd use something like a Dremel tool myself but admittedly, that does require a -very- steady hand. Depending on the finish (especially if it's a solid color)...and how good your repair is, you may even be able to touch up your repair afterward so that it's not terribly noticeable.

Lastly...take your time and -be patient-. You -can- do a suitable repair here but don't allow yourself to get over-tired or frustrated. Take lots of breaks and don't rush it. If you've never done a repair of this nature, it -can- be nerve-wracking to say the least. Remember, lot's of deep breaths...avoid distractions (turn off the cell phone, shut off the TV)...keep your focus.

I sincerely wish you the best of luck and I hope it all works out for you!

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Post subject: Re: Problem with a 2006 Squier Standard Stratocaster
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Tom11RR wrote:
My mom bought me a Squier Standard Strat in 2006, and it has developed a crack in the finish and wood through the bass-strings side tremolo post perpendicular to the direction of the neck. The crack is about an inch long.

Has anyone else had this problem? The guitar won't stay in tune worth a damn anymore, and I don't know if it's under warranty or not. Even so, my mom bought it so the receipt has her name on it and not mine.

Has anyone ever had Fender fix or replace a body for this on their guitar? I am really depressed about this. This was actually a pretty good guitar that I used steady for three years now until this happened.


Hey Tom,
I'm going to toss my $.02 in here for what it's worth to you...

First, even if the guitar is no longer under warranty, I would still contact Fender -first-. Ok...it's a long shot and personally I've never had any success with their customer service at all but you may get lucky and as the old saying goes, "it never hurts to ask". Second to that, I would also contact the Guitar Center where the guitar was purchased...with receipt in hand (even if it is you mother's signature on it) and ask if and what they can do. Again it's a long shot but again, never hurts to ask.

Once you've exhausted all other options and there's no hope of anyone taking care of this issue for you "for free", I have a few suggestions on the repair. Personally, I would repair the body you have now rather than get a Saga. I do very well understand what it's like to be "on a limited budget" so you have my sympathies. That said, I've never tried a Saga body before but if you look around the internet, there are -a lot- of mixed comments about them and not all of them are good at all. More over, you will likely be in for -a lot- more work with a Saga body than you will be simply repairing what you already have. If you should really decide to get a new body, I'd just watch Ebay...you do see Squier Standard bodies up there from time to time and the prices aren't usually all that bad...and I'd really go that way over a Saga.


Now since I haven't seen the instrument or the damage, PLEASE take my comments as being subjective...you may need to be quite flexible as far as what I suggest here. That said, I think you are more or less on the right track but I wouldn't use an actual dowel for a couple of reasons. First, if you just go to "Home Depot" (or your local hardware store), you'll probably end up with either poplar or oak...your guitar body is likely agathis or possibly alder. More importantly, the grain of a dowel is going to run lengthwise along the dowel which is going to appose the grain of the body in this repair. What this means is that an actual dowel is going to be very likely to split once you put the strings on and have tension/pressure on that post...aka the work would be for nothing.

From this perspective, I would try and find a small piece of either alder or maple...you could probably get a small piece of either from a local wood supply shop (look up wood crafting in your local directory) for relatively cheap and cut your own plug for the repair. This way the wood you use for the repair will be similar to that in the guitar body and you can have the grain going in the same direction...this isn't for aesthetics but for the structural stability of the repair.

Now personally if it were me....since we're not talking about a vintage instrument or anything that's going to ever be worth any serious money or anything, I would probably over-cut the hole in the body just a bit to allow for a little extra wood in the "plug"...yes, the repair may be a bit more visible but it will also be more stable and more likely to hold. Don't go too gung-ho, but a little extra trim will allow for a little extra new wood. I would also take something like an Exacto knife and trim some of the crack itself out as well and put a little piece of new wood in there too. If you don't repair the actual crack, then pluggin the post hole will be pretty pointless.

Now while I mean no disrespect to the other posters here, please, please, please...do -NOT- use Super Glue!!! I'm on my hands and knees here begging...PLEASE don't do it! Use a good wood glue such as Titebond. Super Glue and other "quick fix" type adhesives will NOT hold up...they get brittle and WILL crack and eventually fall out. On a similar note, I would NOT use Gorilla glue either...yea the stuff is "strong" but it has a tendency to expand as it dries and in a situation like this, could make the problem even worse. Very seriously...I've used Titebond on 3 broken headstocks and have glued up two body blanks with the stuff...for wood, it's about the best you can get over the counter.

Obviously once you have the new wood glued in, be -careful- as you sand it down flush with the body so that you don't screw up the finish around it. Personally I'd use something like a Dremel tool myself but admittedly, that does require a -very- steady hand. Depending on the finish (especially if it's a solid color)...and how good your repair is, you may even be able to touch up your repair afterward so that it's not terribly noticeable.

Lastly...take your time and -be patient-. You -can- do a suitable repair here but don't allow yourself to get over-tired or frustrated. Take lots of breaks and don't rush it. If you've never done a repair of this nature, it -can- be nerve-wracking to say the least. Remember, lot's of deep breaths...avoid distractions (turn off the cell phone, shut off the TV)...keep your focus.

I sincerely wish you the best of luck and I hope it all works out for you!

Peace,
Jim


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