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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:12 am
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I need to try one of those Classic Vibe strats.


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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:26 pm
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I've got an early model that I've been told is some sort of a special edition. Picked it up used in the early 90's. 22 Jumbo frets unfinished maple neck with black Oynx dot inlays. 43 mm at nut with an offset C neck I have never seen before. Plays effortlessly. Body is alder and is stained only in a kind of a cherry walnut color. It actually makes a ringing noise when you knock on it. It has a 3 ply black pickguard. I have replaced the tuners w/schaller locking and added some aged white Vintage Fender Noiseless pups. It only weighs 7 lbs.

It sounds and more importantly plays better than any Custom Shop strat I have ever tried. I've turned down offers of $2000 for it. This one stays with me to the grave


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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:53 pm
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i saw this and it reminded me of a story an older musician told me. it went that in the mid 80's Fender wanted to put a factory in japan. the factory would manufacture all of the Squier models. the japanese however would make sure that everything in every guitar would be perfect. back in the states everything was "drill a screw, next guitar". it got to the point where every guitar that was made in japan was just as good or better than the american standard. fender got kinda pissed off though and had the foreign workforce for the brand moved to mexico. :lol:


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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:35 am
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I have a Squier deluxe Fat Strat and a Fender American Standerd.
As a guy wrote previously, if you change the tremolo block to steel, and put good pickups, you have an excellent guitar.
Label name doesn´t guarantee the quality.
I think the Highway series, are supposed to be American (in fact, parts are made in mexico anda assembled in USA) and feel cheap, plays wrong for my taste, and are overpriced.
I´m not sure that my Squier Strat is as good as my American Strat, but it have some very good points, I´m sure that I can play live without backup with the Squier without any problems, and don´t miss the Fender.

Just one more comment: When I played the Squier deluxe at the store, and a Mexican standard stratocaster, the Mexican was just mediocre.
What an awfull and overpriced guitar!


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thank you for the fact on the highway series kensai. i have a mexican jazz bass and i played a highway jazz bass a couple days ago and was kinda surprised by the comparison. then again, the guy hadnt done anything with his pickups yet so the amount of fretbuzz was unbearable :lol:


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I think a lot of you guys are forgetting we are not talking about modern squiers, but the vintage squiers from 82-84 JV/SQ series. IMO those are in a different ball park than the current Squier fare except the Classic Vibes


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I think a lot of you guys are forgetting we are not talking about modern squiers, but the vintage squiers from 82-84 JV/SQ series. IMO those are in a different ball park than the current Squier fare except the Classic Vibes

and the Vintage Modifieds ...

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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:39 pm
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Who the hell are you both to tell me that?! Fenders are the original because they were the first ones created back in 1946 by Leo Fender. Yes, i have heard of lawsuit guitars. My friend has two of them. The Squiers that had Fender actually say "Squier by Fender". I have one that I own. And i'm in an unsigned NuMetal/Hard Rock band. Whatcha gotta say now? Don't say nuthin unless u know wat yer talkin about. How ya gonna tell me when i'm in a rock band?! Yu think ur so supafly with yer "knowledge" , but yu don't know squat! Holla with yer "smarts"! :x :!: :roll: I've seen the scrawled Fender guitar. My friend Matt has a bass like that. U don't know. Like a said the best quality is in the Fender Strat. u don't see any proffessional musicians use Squiers. So shut up and go to Fender limbo!
Why don't u get yer stuff straight, do yer resarch, yer homework, and then let's talk about this later on!!!!! :x 8) :shock: :D :) :( :o :x :P :roll: :idea: :twisted:


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A lot of the newer Squiers have been really well made. I picked up a VM Thinline tele at GC one day because I thought it was a MIM Thinline until I looked at the headstock. It played amazing and felt and sounded great. A friend of mine is lucky enough to have one of the few MIA Squier Strats and loves it.
Heck, my Mike Dirnt Squier plays just as good as a MIM if not better. Some people have said the new VM and CV's are better or as good as MIA Fenders. To the point, I've heard nothing bad about the early Squiers, and if as previously mentioned, George Harrison played one, they have to be good. He had any axe he wanted, even that sweet rosewood Tele Fender custom built for him. I'm trailing off now, but original Squiers were/are great.

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I have an '83 Squier Strat with the three-bolt neck. I recently took this Strat to my local guitar shop, and the owner was amazed at the quality of the guitar. He did tell me that the early Squiers were as good as the original Fenders of the day. He pointed out that the hardware was identical. That guitar has played beautifully since I bought it new back in 1983. I did replace the electronics when the 5-way switch gave out - replacing them with newer Squier parts. Still sounds GREAT.


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Is hits guy's Squier as good as an American Standard? Sure, why not? A good guitar is a good guitar.

Is their any truth to the story about the "first Squiers" and Fender suddenly waking up from their slumber and realizing that they'd made them TOO GOOD, and so on? No. That's just guitar player yak, of which there is an abundance.


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I'm kind of a "cheap guitar" afficionado, because well, I'm cheap. I currently have a Peavey Raptor 1 off of ebay for 60 bucks, an MIK Squier Strat, a Samick HJ650 archtop hollow body, Squier Jagmaster and an Affinity Tele. It's all a matter of proper setup, possibly electrical mods, and talent. With slight tweaking, these guitars sound great through a Sunn Concert Lead, and I don't worry about theft or damage when I'm working. Unless you make a "real living" at it, there is no need to plunk down thousands for gear on a job that may pay you a few hundred bucks.


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HA! Me too. I love the fact that $1000 could buy you a truck load of Squiers. :D

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I have a new Standard Squier Strat from China. Admittedly, I gutted and replaced ALL the electronics. Yet, it sets up great, plays great and sounds great. That's everything I need and I could care less the country of origin or the supposed degree of Fender authenticity as this humble guitar can and will stand toe to toe with any pedigreed Strat.

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I've got a squier JV 1982 Tele 52' Blonde. I got it in 1982, second-hand from a friend that gigged it once and didn't get along with it. (£200 as I recall)

It's a great instrument. It plays and sounds great. I've never played any other Tele that is as good as mine. 8)


My understanding is that, in the late 70s/early 80s, Fender saw many Japanese companies making very good Fender copies, and selling lots of them cheap. Fender wanted in on that action and created Squier to do the job. When they first made these lovely instruments in Japan they were built using the same grade of components as used in USA Fenders. and often with USA made components. Fender soon realised their mistake in that Squier were making instrument of equal quality.. they then down-graded and got them made cheaper elsewhere..

If you got a 82/83 Squier you'll know what I am saying .. the Original Squiers (JV) are damn good instruments and highly sought after.. I see them on ebay for 500% there original cost.. Not surprising as they age very well and originally made from very high quality components.


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