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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:51 am
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Hello everyone,
I bought my Sqier Stagemaster some years ago and got interested about it.
on the neckplate there is the following code:
s/n CY10311570
I looked on the internet, but couldn't find anything about it...

actually i didn't find much about the Stagemaster HSH 6-String at all.

What I found was a 7-String and other types like HH

Is there anyone who could tell me more about it?

thanks

p.s. i hope my english wasn't too bad ;)


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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:29 pm
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Try wikipedia for information.

CY means made by the Yako company (in Taiwan),

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Here's some dating and identification info about Squiers. I got this from previous discussions about this subject here and on other guitar websites.

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Pre-1996 dating is approximate.

Japanese Squiers:

For Japanese serial number dating see Fenders site.
The Japanese MIJ Squiers were made by FujiGen up to 1997 and the Japanese CIJ Squiers were made by Tokai and Dyna from 1997.

Mexican Squiers:

M stands for Mexico, the second character refers to the decade: N represents Nineties (1990's). And the first number following is the year. So, for example "MN8" = made by Fender at Ensenada Mexico in 1998.

USA Squiers:

USA Squires are very rare and usually have a E serial number and were made for less than a year spanning 1989 and 1990.

Korean Squiers:

C refers to Cort, V refers to Saehan(Sunghan), S was already taken by Samick so Saehan(Sunghan) used V instead (Saehan(Sunghan) made the Vester guitars). Those made by Cort are the most desirable. The second character refers to the decade: N represents Nineties (1990's). And the first number following is the year. So, for example "CN6" = made by Cort in 1996 and "VN6" = made by Saehan(Sunghan) in 1996.

Exceptions:

Pro-Tone Series (solid ash bodies) had serial numbers with either a) no preceding letters and 7 digits, with the first number being the year, or b) starting with KC for Korean Cort, followed by 2-digit year.

Stagemaster Deluxe (neck-thru maple necks with basswood wings), and the Double Fat Tele Deluxe (all solid mahogany with set necks), with serial numbers starting with KC for Korean Cort, followed by 2-digit year.

There were also some KV (Korean Saehan(Sunghan)) serial numbers followed by 2-digit year.

The KC and KV forms are apparently associated with the change to Crafted in Korea. So, post-1996 models only would have this form of serial number.

Six-digit serial numbers with no preceding letters, with the first number being the year.

Squier II's could not possibly have been assembled before 1987/88, as these represent the transition to Indian and then Korean production, and all the ramifications of such (the serial numbers can be off by years for these particular axes, and neck dates may also be misleading).
The S and E Squires seem to be from the late 1980's/early 1990's and don't seem to have a reliable serial number system for dating.
Some Squier II's were made in India around 1989-1990.
A lot of the Squier II's had a plywood body.

Chinese Squiers:

YN: Y = Yako (Taiwan). The second character refers to the decade N = Nineties (1990's). And the first number following is the year. So, for example "YN6" = 1996. This form is associated with Made in China Affinitys (with the standard body thickness of 45mm/1.75).

CY: Y = Yako (Taiwan) C = China. CY is followed by 2-digit year. CY appears on most models produced in China, and is by far the most common form. These forms are apparently associated with the change to Crafted in China, so post-1996 models only would have this form of serial number.
Some Chinese Gretsch's use a CY serial number.
YN is associated with 'made in china' rather than 'crafted in china' and 1996 was the year they swapped to 'crafted in china' and mostly CY prefixes.
Miscellaneous Chinese serials: CD, CT, CJ, NC: C = China, the first number following the serial number prefix is the year.
Probably made by Yako (Taiwan).
Squier serial numbers beginning with CA are made by Axl China.

Indonesian Squiers:

IC = Made in Indonesia by Cort (solid agathis from 1998), followed by 2-digit year.
IS = Made in Indonesia by Samick. Bullet Series (plywood), followed by 2-digit year.

Indian Squiers:

Some Squier II's were made in India around 1989-1990.
Some recent Squiers are being made in India.

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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:23 pm
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That is my problem, this model (Stagemaster HSH) was built since 2000, and "10" as the jear when it was built is impossible.
and there is a "crafted in china" on it.
Maybe its a chinese gretsch, i dunno

i know the wikipedia article well, this is my guitar. i think i will stop looking for information, it's not that important at the moment.


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Spidi wrote:
That is my problem, this model (Stagemaster HSH) was built since 2000, and "10" as the jear when it was built is impossible.
and there is a "crafted in china" on it.
Maybe its a chinese gretsch, i dunno

i know the wikipedia article well, this is my guitar. i think i will stop looking for information, it's not that important at the moment.


It could be that the year is a mistake and it should have been 00 for 2000 but they used 1 because of the double leading zeros, the 03 is the month, and the rest is the serial number. My Squier Standard Strat in Cherryburst is CY0610XXXX.

As you said, you know which guitar model you have - so you don't need any more info. You maybe able to get more info from Fender - try writing to consumer relations - http://www.fender.com/support/contact_fmic_consumer_relations.php

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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:17 pm
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okay, thanks for help

this is a cool forum, i think i'll be here more often


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Post subject: Re: Chinese Squier Stagemaster strange code?
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:46 pm
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Spidi wrote:
Hello everyone,
I bought my Sqier Stagemaster some years ago and got interested about it.
on the neckplate there is the following code:
s/n CY10311570
I looked on the internet, but couldn't find anything about it...

actually i didn't find much about the Stagemaster HSH 6-String at all.

What I found was a 7-String and other types like HH

Is there anyone who could tell me more about it?

thanks

p.s. i hope my english wasn't too bad ;)


It does seem to be hard to find info on Stagemasters. My Dad has been playing professionally for over 50 years and his 7 string HH Stagemaster is his #1 choice. Mine is the 24 fret 6 string HSS and I like it alot better than my Strat. I may not use those last 2 frets much, but it sounds alot cleaner than the Strat does when I start running out of neck. Alot easier on the fingers and sounds better too. I hadn't considered it till I read a different thread a few days ago, but the different sound might be because without a pickguard the pups are screwed directly into the body. I also like the look of the reversed headstock and being able to use an offset plug. My only problem with it is being able to find a decent hardshell case -between the longer neck and the reversed headstock it is hard to find a good fit.

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