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Post subject: Re: Clapton: How to use mid boost without TBX
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:04 am
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You can get details about Clapton's rig throughought the years here

http://www.uberproaudio.com/who-plays-what/153-eric-claptons-guitar-gear-rig-and-equipment

On this website you can also find the rig of more than 100 great players.

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Post subject: Re: Clapton: How to use mid boost without TBX
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:19 am
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I can run my LS Strats through my Proco Rat and, with the right tweaking, get that creamy overdriven sustain. Remember, every ear is different. You will never hear what Eric does. When, and if, my new Mesa Boogie King Snake arrives, I'll have some homework to do. It's got three power settings so I'll be able to live peacefully with my wife and my neighbors. :lol:

I can understand well how 'delicious' the sounds our heroes can generate...e.g. Clapton, Gilmour, Van Halen, Knopfler, Guy, Bonamassa, Santana, The ABB, just to name a few distinctive players. So, I'll leave you with something John Lee Hooker once said in an interview. It went roughly like this. "I tell people..'Stop try'in ta be me!' ". "Be YOU!!''

Find the tone that expresses the emotions you feel which you want to express through your instrument, and go for it. If you can't find it with that Clapton, find another portal. There's a million of 'em.

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Post subject: Re: Clapton: How to use mid boost without TBX
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:54 am
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ZZDoc wrote:
So, I'll leave you with something John Lee Hooker once said in an interview. It went roughly like this. "I tell people..'Stop try'in ta be me!' ". "Be YOU!!''


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Post subject: Re: Clapton: How to use mid boost without TBX
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:15 am
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ZZDoc wrote:
When you order a Clapton built by Todd what you get is what Eric is currently using on stage.


..ish. I have masterbuilt EC Strats from Gene, Yuriy and Todd, and not one is 100% like Eric's own. Actually the teambuilt EC I have is closer than any of those, as I requested specific details.....

On the regular ECs why do they insist on finishing the body in poly, rather than the mega thin nitro finish like Eric's?
And the different body shape.... (minor importance)
And the superglue necks he used to have.. which we can forgive now as they're so evil to produce.

I really don't understand the body finish thing, I can't see the downside to producing them as Eric has them (especially as Fender have a thing with relics 'n' that).


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Post subject: Re: Clapton: How to use mid boost without TBX
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:37 am
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On the regular ECs why do they insist on finishing the body in poly, rather than the mega thin nitro finish like Eric's?
And the different body shape.... (minor importance)


I know you've got quite clutch of them, and had quite an issue about left-handed models.

Body shape is something new to me. Clairfy.

Finish. Wildwood Guitars had offered those in thin-skinned nitro.

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Post subject: Re: Clapton: How to use mid boost without TBX
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:21 am
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ZZDoc wrote:
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On the regular ECs why do they insist on finishing the body in poly, rather than the mega thin nitro finish like Eric's?
And the different body shape.... (minor importance)


I know you've got quite clutch of them, and had quite an issue about left-handed models.

Body shape is something new to me. Clairfy.

Finish. Wildwood Guitars had offered those in thin-skinned nitro.


Back of body contour is deeper. As I said, minor importance.


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Post subject: Re: Clapton: How to use mid boost without TBX
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:06 pm
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LeftyElliot wrote:
Back of body contour is deeper. As I said, minor importance.


Actually...no. The guitar, in it's inception, was intended to be the '57 Stratocaster [Blackie]with updated electronics and setup. My '89 lacks the deep cutaway and rounded contours of the '57 vintage bodies. So, in a sense, the 'new' guitar has never really shared those vintage contours. Nor does my Clapton Prototype. When I ordered my CS guitar years ago, which had the Clapton platform, I specified those requirements on the guitar.

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Post subject: Re: Clapton: How to use mid boost without TBX
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:04 pm
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with updated electronics and setup


Those updated electronics were none than a revised version of the Elite circuit which powered the 3 gold laces.

Originally the assembly came with an active/passive switch to turn off the MDX preamp but Eric rejected this configuration stating his preference for the plug-powered preamp activation which came stock on the Elites.

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Post subject: Re: Clapton: How to use mid boost without TBX
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:01 am
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Guys thanks for all the historic information regarding Eric. I was aware of this stuff. I simply wonder what YOU do to make it sound nice without the TBX because the mid boost alone make things sound just like in the video.

In the nearly 7 years we've been here, yours is the first inquiry regarding an EQ question with a TK Masterbuilt Clapton. There are a few people who own them but the issue never arose. I don't know precisely what it is about tone in the video that concerns you. I didn't hear any short comings in the demo. Remember, the player is not using a clean signal chain...i.e. straight into the amp. As a reminder, the only other pedal Eric uses is one for the Leslie speaker if 'Badge' is on the playlist. Apparently, he feels he has better tone color palette available to him with the conventional tone pot. A couple of FYI's if your not totally familiar with this guitar. Remove the cable jack when the guitar is down otherwise you will continue to draw current from the battery and reduce its life. I have , as well, noticed that a weak battery will cause the midboost output to drop as you roll from 0-10, so make sure that your batteries are fresh. Keep us posted on how you are doing.


I am very aware about this guitar because I had a Strat 100% like Eric's MB config - so standard tone pot and mid boost. The problem on the video I posted is that it just gets very muddy. Initially the TBX was meant to remedy this problem by filtering some frequencies to make the hights more prominent. This is how he gets his 24 nights tone. I played Clapton Strats with TBX pots and were able to nail this sound 100%
A Clapton Strat with a simple tone pot gives you the same level of presence as any Strat which is fine as long as you don't engage the mid boost. If you engage the mid boost you thicken the tone so much it becomes muddy.

I thought about EQ pedals of course but I wonder how Eric does it.


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Post subject: Re: Clapton: How to use mid boost without TBX
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:15 am
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Tomcaster wrote:
I thought about EQ pedals of course but I wonder how Eric does it.

Like more in the amp, which is the final voice. :idea:

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Post subject: Re: Clapton: How to use mid boost without TBX
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:28 pm
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Perhaps he uses the amp with a very bright tone setting and dials down both volume and mid boost for the clean passages which automatically reduces treble.


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Post subject: Re: Clapton: How to use mid boost without TBX
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:13 pm
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For those who dislike changing batteries and prefer keeping things simple there's a stomp box version of the Elite Circuit made by Cara, called Claptone.

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Post subject: Re: Clapton: How to use mid boost without TBX
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:21 am
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The problem on the video I posted is that it just gets very muddy.

I've heard that he went to the VN's, after Fender sent him a set to try, because he felt they were brighter than the LS's. That's when the TBX was removed from his guitars.

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Post subject: Re: Clapton: How to use mid boost without TBX
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:07 pm
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I've heard that he went to the VN's, after Fender sent him a set to try, because he felt they were brighter than the LS's. That's when the TBX was removed from his guitars.


But he agreed to keep the TBX for the regular production and Teambuilt versions of his signature axes!

Teambuilt EC Customs made prior to 2009 had the same specifications as the Masterbuilts. The TBX was added a few weeks before the 2009 world tours in Australasia and the UK.

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Post subject: Re: Clapton: How to use mid boost without TBX
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:49 am
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I wonder is there anything purposeful on his part in not having all the guitars [Artist, Custom Shop, and Masterbuilt] wired the same, or is it the company which has made it so. It's surely a no-brainer to remove the TBX from any guitar aftermarket.

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