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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:20 am
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alainlafrance wrote:
That's EC Grey :D

Look closely at the pickups mon ami. Those look like Laces to me. There's also a cigarette in that headstock,[remember that he stopped smoking long before 2010] the amps and the Ernie Ball strap date the photo as well. All things taken together, that's the pewter prototype which was sold at the first auction. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:29 am
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chromeface wrote:
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You're right, the Dumble amp you're talking about is solely used to drive the Leslie cab.

As I said in a previous post Clapton used several amps to drive the Leslie over the years.

For the RAH concert rehearsals in 1989 he driven the cabinet through a Music Man head.

The shot I've posted a couple of years ago was taken at Bray Studios.


Well, Chromeface, that was what my initial line of thought was. But, if that little combo indeed is a Dumble, it would be insane just to use such an expensive amp to power a Leslie. One does not need a Ferrari engine to power a kitchen blender either, eh? Also listen to the sound he had in Nashville, very different from the sound he used to get from the Tweed Twin...


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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:32 am
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alainlafrance wrote:
That's EC Grey :D


Can we please stop the EC color tombola? I'm starting to get dizzy. :wink:
Doc's dizzy too, he didn't get the :D


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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:41 am
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Bobby...watch the beginning of that video carefully...He's EQ'ing the guitar....then he rolls the midboost off before the intro. In his playing he's very subtle about his pickup and volume changes, but he does them. You have to have been watching his performances very closely and carefully over the years to know this. Of course, a lot happens, at the board, and out of the backline of course, but much with him and that guitar of his. He starts out with the middle pup and the boost rolled off. Right before the first solo he switches to the neck pup and rolls the boost on full. Each of us perceives differently, but I hear that characteristic, full, sustained tone.

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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:28 am
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I thought the Dumble was used to drive the Leslie.

But after listening to the video I've had noticed that he used the Dumble to get a sound very close to that of a Super Lead Overdrive 100W piggyback.

Not sure if he got a Wampler stompbox to simulate the SLO.

Very, very useful for the late 1980s/early 1990s stuff! :)

FYI I expected some background vocals from Willie. :P

Well, here's the Knebworth version for comparison:



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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:11 am
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Chromeface loves that Wampler Box... :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:38 am
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The Nashville videos from that uploader are great. Definitely spot a bit of cheeky tweed behind EC from time-to-time, but to me his guitar on SOYL sounds much meatier than during the other songs from his uploads. Perhaps he has one of those A / B / A+B switchy type things going on with the amps so he can run all kinds of combos. I'm sure I read few years back that he had that kind of setup (then).
Enjoying the vids anyway!
Drifting away from Brownie however :mrgreen:


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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:35 pm
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chromeface wrote:
...Well, here's the Knebworth version for comparison:



LOL!!! That solo... he starts off with "Strangers in the Night" instead of "Blue Moon". Gross!


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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:39 pm
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ZZDoc wrote:
Bobby...watch the beginning of that video carefully...He's EQ'ing the guitar....then he rolls the midboost off before the intro. In his playing he's very subtle about his pickup and volume changes, but he does them. You have to have been watching his performances very closely and carefully over the years to know this. Of course, a lot happens, at the board, and out of the backline of course, but much with him and that guitar of his. He starts out with the middle pup and the boost rolled off. Right before the first solo he switches to the neck pup and rolls the boost on full. Each of us perceives differently, but I hear that characteristic, full, sustained tone.


I see what he's doing... Spent so much time over the years endlessly pausing, rewinding, etc. just to get certain setting of volume and boost controls, pickup switches etc... Yeah, I'm one of THOSE kind of fans... :oops:


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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:47 pm
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LeftyElliot wrote:
The Nashville videos from that uploader are great. Definitely spot a bit of cheeky tweed behind EC from time-to-time, but to me his guitar on SOYL sounds much meatier than during the other songs from his uploads. Perhaps he has one of those A / B / A+B switchy type things going on with the amps so he can run all kinds of combos. I'm sure I read few years back that he had that kind of setup (then).
Enjoying the vids anyway!
Drifting away from Brownie however :mrgreen:


Might be the case too.... good point.


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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:13 pm
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ZZDoc wrote:
Chromeface loves that Wampler Box... :wink:


I don't think EC had already bought that SLOstortion stompbox.

The best solution is to ask his guitar tech Dan Dearnley about the gear he actually uses onstage.


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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:26 pm
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ZZDoc wrote:
Chromeface loves that Wampler Box... :wink:


I don't think EC had already bought that SLOstortion stomp box.

I'm sure of that. You've just been quite an advocate for that gear where someone might be looking for that Soldano sound. I stood two feet from that Soldano back line at the auction preview in Manhattan. :shock: Not exactly something one could stuff in a kit bag. :lol:

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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:13 pm
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I think this performance of Eric with the Dominoes, singing It's too late and then with Cash and Perkins is very fitting of this Forum Topic, plus he mentions it when talking about his memories of Brownie... many if not all of you have seen it, so here it is again...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1fXhLVaBBY


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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:29 am
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During his tenure with the Dominoes he used a tweed Champ combo.

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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:55 am
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Stipe-mills returns! wrote:
I think this performance of Eric with the Dominoes, singing It's too late and then with Cash and Perkins is very fitting of this Forum Topic, plus he mentions it when talking about his memories of Brownie... many if not all of you have seen it, so here it is again...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1fXhLVaBBY

In the big guitar room at the Experience Music Project where Brownie was ultimately relegated to a small glass case after having been displayed in rather royal fashion at another location, they play a loop video of the artists whose guitars are in the room. This is the video they use for Brownie. It sure sounds like that solo is played off the #2 position on the guitar. That they 'nailed' it on the replical was an observation of Erics's. I'm not enamored of "It's Too Late"...but "Matchbox Blues" was a regular in one of our sets back in the day. Marc Roberty, who bio'd Eric, if I'm mistaken, has done a bio of Bobby Whitlock which I own, and you might be interested in acquiring in your own 'write'. :idea:

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