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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:58 am
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Unbearable suspense for both of you
EOD, yes, but which day...

It's a world wide event....Maybe GMT :!:

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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:03 am
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I'm buying myself some perspective cause otherwise as Alain says, it could become unbearable...


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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:25 am
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Yesterday that I was at guitar center I had the chance to inspect the guitar, take some bad black berry pics and then go back to the pics of the original as well as the videos of Clapton and here are my thoughts...
I think Ufboy is right with respect to the darkened wear on the neck, the original is darker, however there is consistency in the rest of the instruments, if you look at the prototype being played by Clapton, the worn out patches as he calls them, are not dark at all, so my guess is that the patches can become darker by playing it, but I would defer to Alain on the better technique to achieve this...
Makes no difference to me, everything is perfect...
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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:46 am
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The neck wear I assume you are referring to is that on the fingerboard. I recall photos of me with my old '58 taken years ago and those areas are definitely dark, as they are with most guitars I've seen which are played in. All of the repros and relic'd guitars have the same light colored wear spots which, I believe are created by using a Dremel driving an abrasive tip, not unlike that which I used professionally many a time in the past. They'd have to find a way to stain that down to look natural, unless they are leaving the owners own blood, sweat, and tears to do same. Though I don't know how many will gig these guitars long enough to permit that to happen, if at all.

On a personal note, I've sent Brad an email expressing my opinions as to how this sale was handled to the extent that it fails to, in any manner shape or form rise to the level of the customer base which can afford it. I didn't couch my observations in quite this fashion but, on second thought, they've put a brand new Ferrari in the hands of a used car hack, for all the respect you all seem to be receiving.

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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:14 am
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Yes Doc, I meant the fingerboard, thank you for your explanation, it certainly sheds a lot of light on the subject. As for the way this release was handled, my local GC treated me very well, it's just the higher management at GC that's making it a little difficult with these rules and dates and more rules....


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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:22 am
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Stipe-mills returns! wrote:
Yesterday that I was at guitar center I had the chance to inspect the guitar, take some bad black berry pics and then go back to the pics of the original as well as the videos of Clapton and here are my thoughts...
I think Ufboy is right with respect to the darkened wear on the neck, the original is darker, however there is consistency in the rest of the instruments, if you look at the prototype being played by Clapton, the worn out patches as he calls them, are not dark at all, so my guess is that the patches can become darker by playing it, but I would defer to Alain on the better technique to achieve this...
Makes no difference to me, everything is perfect...
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i do recall mike saying something during the Blackie release about how the only thing that wasnt quite dead-on was the neck coloring (i.e. that the replica necks were a bit lighter). i thought has comment had to do with the overall color of the neck (i.e. how tinted they were) because he said something about them getting orangeish over time if they made them dark like the original from the start.

whats weird is there are other projects (like the Yngwie or the Fender owned EVH Frankenstein) that they didnt seem to have any problem getting the neckwear really like the original. blackie and brownie are not quite as authentic as those, to me. dont know why?

were you able to plug it in at all to hear it?


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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:24 am
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alainlafrance wrote:
Unbearable suspense for both of you
EOD, yes, but which day...



hahaha:)

it actually is a little more annoying than i had thought but i am trying to stay patient. it helps that i dont 'think' that the entire allotment was sold yet, so i would assume if you got in an order yesterday you would be ok - my only concern is this other demand i had of my GC guy...THAT i would like officially confirmed.


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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:32 am
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[quote="ufboy73] - my only concern is this other demand i had of my GC guy...THAT i would like officially confirmed.[/quote]

Part of my commentary to Brad addressed that. If you'd care to read it I can send it on. The only one of you whose email address needs updating for my address book, in that he fell off the edge of the world, is M's. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:39 am
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ZZDoc wrote:
[quote="ufboy73] - my only concern is this other demand i had of my GC guy...THAT i would like officially confirmed.[/quote]

Part of my commentary to Brad addressed that. If you'd care to read it I can send it on. The only one of you whose email address needs updating for my address book, in that he fell off the edge of the world, is M's. :wink:[/quote]


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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:48 am
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ZZDoc wrote:
[quote="ufboy73] - my only concern is this other demand i had of my GC guy...THAT i would like officially confirmed.[/quote]

Part of my commentary to Brad addressed that. If you'd care to read it I can send it on. The only one of you whose email address needs updating for my address book, in that he fell off the edge of the world, is M's. :wink:[/quote][/quote]

sure - always looking out for us, right[/quote]


Why not. It's a tough call though. Falls into the 'cut off one's nose to spite one's face category. Rather let them sit with all 50 than be mistreated. Yet, on the other hand..... Wish there was some effective means of setting shark's teeth into one's disapproval .

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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:00 am
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The
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Most probably it was a valid procedure up to yesterday only.

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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:11 am
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UfBoy the wear on Blackie was not so easily reproduced because the wear was underneath the finish, so they had to finish a neck first, then sand it then apply the wear the refinish it... I recall this from a magazine article at Guitar One that listed Clapton's more iconic axes, I tend to agree with Mike on the take of the tinting, maybe those Frankensteins look ok, but they have only be out for 6 plus years, lets see how those do in about 15 years, but again Frankie's neck is very different from Blackie or Brownie because it is an unfinished neck. I didn't plug it in because if I end up NOT getting that Brownie, I don't want to harm other potential owners by playing it...
Thanks Doc, email is tbo831645@yahoo.com.mx and thanks for looking after us man, I really appreciate it. I'm still here listening to time pass by but still no news which makes me wonder.
They have not sold out, but I'm sure they will, Blackie sold out in 72 hours... Brownie hasn't even got 24 hours under it's belt yet... Again, we have to keep waiting which sucks...


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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:12 am
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alainlafrance wrote:
The
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Most probably it was a valid procedure up to yesterday only.

Yah!!....like if they didn't sell out the lot, which is possible, they wouldn't be looking for additional customers :!: That's close :lol: :lol: Would be interesting to get a separate email offering
'if you're still interested we have leftovers'.

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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:16 am
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[quote="Stipe-mills returns!"]UfBoy the wear on Blackie was not so easily reproduced because the wear was underneath the finish, so they had to finish a neck first, then sand it then apply the wear the refinish it... I recall this from a magazine article at Guitar One that listed Clapton's more iconic axes, I tend to agree with Mike on the take of the tinting, maybe those Frankensteins look ok, but they have only be out for 6 plus years, lets see how those do in about 15 years, but again Frankie's neck is very different from Blackie or Brownie because it is an unfinished neck. I didn't plug it in because if I end up NOT getting that Brownie, I don't want to harm other potential owners by playing it...
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wouldnt the original blackie and brownie be similarly ageing over time from today?


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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:19 am
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From my chair, I've been bitten by GC before with two of the Jimmy Page projects, and those scars are still tender, so I prefer to let sleeping dogs lie, because, it's just too much energy wasted in damning or critiquing their methods... I just want to enjoy the instrument, and forgo the politics of it all...


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