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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:37 pm
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brownie also represents my favorite period of eric's career (i.e the dominos).

even though blackie is much more well known, brownie has more character to me for some reason.

i didnt actually think the neck was too bad (was fearing the worst based on EC's own comments) - the shoulders were what was most notable to me...and it did not have much of a V. the fretboard edges were surprisingly sharp to me. not rounded off like blackie or other TK's that i have tried


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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:38 pm
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Doc regarding your last part of your comment, I guess it has to do on whether or not you're living in a town that has a Platinum GC store like say Dallas, Manhattan, Houston, Hollywood, Chicago, etc.


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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:44 pm
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I agree with you man, the thing about Brownie is that it was Clapton first go at a start, I don't think he had a very refined or knowledgable taste at that point of his career about starts... and he bought it when he was still in Cream after seeing Steve and Jimi playing one... I even think he got it second hand, so yeah it probably wasn't the most refined instrument, but man he probably made the most memorable music of his career in that one Album... The other thing to remember is that Blackie was played for 13 years, so a lot of contouring of the neck took place from Eric playing it and Lee making bits of repair as the guitar got more and more worn...


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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:04 pm
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Stipe-mills returns! wrote:
Doc regarding your last part of your comment, I guess it has to do on whether or not you're living in a town that has a Platinum GC store like say Dallas, Manhattan, Houston, Hollywood, Chicago, etc.

There are three GC's in the Dade/Broward/Palm Beach County area of South Florida, and Hallendale's the lead store and has the Platinum Room. There are 30 Platinum Rooms posted on the GC website. Roughly 25% of the GC Platinum Rooms are in California. [7 locations; Florida has 1]. How these guitars are actually going to be distributed is anybody's guess. The closest Showcase Dealers to Florida are in Kentucky, Tennessee, and Texas. :!: :? :? I'm of the opinion that this deal is really skewed with respect to opportunity. :twisted: Ufboy said something about a lottery. How's that set up?? I certainly hope that everyone on the Forums who wants one prevails, and that you're not in competition with one another. :?

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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:14 pm
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I know what you mean, I don't think the event was very well distributed throughout the U.S., and I could tell simply by the fact that they announced they were having one master builder come, and then another one showed up.


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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:31 am
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Welcome back Stipe-mills.
Here from GC:

"How to Make an Eric Clapton “Crossroads Guitar Collection” Guitar Your Own
We are excited to announce the official launch of the Eric Clapton “Crossroads Guitar Collection.” The
production of these guitars is very limited and, as you may have guessed, the demand for these instruments will
be high. We want to help you get an edge on securing yours. The instructions below will help you do just that.
• Guitars go on saleThursday, March 21 at 11 a.m. PST.
• All orders will be time-stamped and will be placed in the order they are received chronologically
on a first-come/first-served basis.
• It is for this reason that we highly recommend you arrange payment in advance with one of our store experts. By leaving a refundable credit on account, you will not have to be present to place
your order and will have one of our store experts place the order for you.
• On Thursday, March 21 at 11 a.m. PST, you or a store expert will place your order. Our experts will also keep you informed of the status of your order and answer any questions you may have.
• If your order is confirmed, it is important to note that all sales are final on all “Crossroads Collection” guitars.
• If your order is not confirmed,then you will be given a full refund.
• 18-Months Special Financing is available on all“Crossroads Collection” guitars.
SPECIAL NOTES FOR CREDIT ON ACCOUNT CUSTOMERS:
The credit on account must cover the full price of the guitar, including tax. Placing a credit on account for the full price of the guitar plus tax does not guarantee that you will receive a guitar.It only provides you with the best chance to do so.
To make one of the Crossroads Collection guitars your own, click the RESERVE NOW button then fill out the form to be contacted by your local store expert to begin the process."

You pay then you have no control on getting a guitar nor on which one you'll receive...and when...

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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:51 am
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This is known as being held by the short hairs for the sake of publicity. In this world of computer technology one certainly has the ability to receive and confirm 50 orders on a first come first serve basis, with the rest on 'standby' if one of the first 50 cancels. Hell, they were able to intiate the process on line, weren't they. My guess is that they're doing precisely THAT, but aren't saying so. I've have no issues with anyone who finds it necessary to play this game. However When you consider the final cost of this piece, including taxes adding somewhere between $1000-$1500 , you're not dealing with chump change or chumps. Business dealings of this sort demand more respect of the consumer. IMHO, the Gilmour was the best deal yet. A Tribute Repro AND and NOS of the same, at a reasonable cost, made to order. What made it even more admirable was that HE wouldn't consent to the project unless it went down that way. :wink: He da man!!

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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:58 am
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Thanks Alain my friend for the welcome back, much appreciated coming from you. Thank you for the posting on the GC rules which I appreciate although, being a lawyer myself I have already studied them up and down, and they are the same rules that GC has used for other projects in the past. As I was telling Doc before, as long as the number 50, as in 50 COA received is not surpassed, I think those of us here in the U.S. are gonna be fine. Doc, I agree with your taking on the FCFS basis, because otherwise it becomes a subject of which dealer can pull the trigger faster, and GC already had a glitch in the system one time when with the Jimmy Page 2 LP their system went down exactly at the moment dealers were supposed to pull the trigger.

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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:47 am
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ah yes, i remember that #2 debacle...one of my friends was totally shafted by it. of course, by the time anyone found out they were not going to be able to secure one through GC all the other dealers had sold out.

i will give them this though on the Brownie run - for other limited, signature editions some dealers (including GC) have increased the price (after taking fully paid deposits) once they found out how high demand was. i think GC, in fact, did this at times. result was an 'auction' environment. again, thats one thing if prospective buyers know that going in but totally uncool when they believe they have put down the full purchase price in advance.


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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:12 am
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Yes, I was one of those people that felt cheated when the system went down and couldn't secure one of the Aged Models... And as for the Signed models you're right, I'm mean I believe those guitars were selling for 45k or something like in a kind of auction scenario as you described. I am glad that at least for the Brownie project they are maintaining the rules as they are. In 24 I shall know if I get to be one of the lucky 50.


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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:18 am
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interesting, i may have a bit of a personal update on my own situation from my GC contact in a bit


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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:20 am
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I know for a fact that managers at GC receive daily updates on how many COA's they have received so far for the guitar, so yes it would be interesting to know where they are as the hour approaches. My last update was 32 as of yesterday at noon.


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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:42 am
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i will give them this though on the Brownie run - for other limited, signature editions some dealers (including GC) have increased the price (after taking fully paid deposits) once they found out how high demand was.

I'd have an express mail letter off to Eldred in a shot knowing that :!: :shock: :twisted:

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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:01 am
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Hey Doc, I don't think such kinds of situations happened with Fender instruments to my recollection, I think it was mainly Gibson projects...


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Post subject: Re: Brownie
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:04 am
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yes, i was referring to gibson. i dont think they have done that with the various fender runs - for those, they just let anyone play them after they are sold :twisted: (i kid)

so you are saying that 32/55 have been paid for?


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