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Post subject: Re: The mystery of sonic blue
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:36 am
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"http://www.guitarmotel.com/images/stori ... bewr-1.jpg

This one is 52 KB"


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I'm not alone to get that figure.
Sorry to the OP for this now over a parte.

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Post subject: Re: The mystery of sonic blue
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:52 am
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This is not the picture on the website, it's the picture you have on your computer.

This is the pic on the website:

http://www.guitarmotel.com/images/stori ... bewr-1.jpg

You seem to be on a Mac. Just open the "activity" window in Safari and see for yourself:

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My guess: you upload your picture into some sort of a CMS and this is where it gets reduced. The publishing from your CMS to the website seems to damage the pictures. It's plain to see they're damaged.

This is not off topic. The lack of accurate image processing makes your sonic blue incorrect. The white balance in your histogram is off. Please read this: http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/yrgb.htm

If people start to use your website as a reference, they will see incorrect colors leading to confusion about Fender colors. This is why I insist, otherwise it would not matter at all.

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Post subject: Re: The mystery of sonic blue
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:13 am
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OK I'll read it
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Post subject: Re: The mystery of sonic blue
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:19 am
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Amerigo wrote:
This is not the picture on the website, it's the picture you have on your computer.

This is the pic on the website:

http://www.guitarmotel.com/images/stori ... bewr-1.jpg

You seem to be on a Mac. Just open the "activity" window in Safari and see for yourself:

Image

My guess: you upload your picture into some sort of a CMS and this is where it gets reduced. The publishing from your CMS to the website seems to damage the pictures. It's plain to see they're damaged.

This is not off topic. The lack of accurate image processing makes your sonic blue incorrect. The white balance in your histogram is off. Please read this: http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/yrgb.htm

If people start to use your website as a reference, they will see incorrect colors leading to confusion about Fender colors. This is why I insist, otherwise it would not matter at all.

Cheers

David



I can show pics of at least 5 Sonic Blue Strats from the 60's that are slightly different.
You are insinuating that Fender colors were always precisely the same. That is a very wrong assumption. That's why I went to DuPont in 1997 and got the original color codes. So that there is a reference point. Now, we get dealers and customers asking for..."faded Sonic Blue..." or faded Surf Green. We paint it, it goes out to the market, and somebody sees it and says, "that's not..."right".

Fender has always changed up the colors. You run out of Sonic Blue in April of 1962, and what would you (Fender - Leo) do??? You wouldn't wait I can tell you that. You would "mix some up" on your own with blue and white. Believe me, that's what they (we) have always done. NOW (of course) we have ALL the correct codes and it is more precise (if that's what you want) than it has ever been.

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Post subject: Re: The mystery of sonic blue
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:02 pm
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Thanks all for the input. For sure any digital photo taken under unknown lighting conditions, and processed without strict screen calibration will lead to inevitable confusion. This plus the color being inconsistent over the years makes things quite confusing indeed. At least now I know I'm not crazy! :wink: :mrgreen:


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Post subject: Re: The mystery of sonic blue
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:40 am
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TC5A wrote:
Thanks all for the input. For sure any digital photo taken under unknown lighting conditions, and processed without strict screen calibration will lead to inevitable confusion. This plus the color being inconsistent over the years makes things quite confusing indeed. At least now I know I'm not crazy! :wink: :mrgreen:


If the colors change over the years, it's even more important to take calibrated pictures. Otherwise the transition of the colors is lost in image processing.

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Post subject: Re: The mystery of sonic blue
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 9:25 am
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TC5A wrote:
Thanks all for the input. For sure any digital photo taken under unknown lighting conditions, and processed without strict screen calibration will lead to inevitable confusion. This plus the color being inconsistent over the years makes things quite confusing indeed. At least now I know I'm not crazy! :wink: :mrgreen:

Your monitor is calibrated for the white ?
Cm'on :roll:

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Post subject: Re: The mystery of sonic blue
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 4:18 am
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Mine is. I'm using a Gretag Eye-On:

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Takes a few minutes only. And then you have white which is white and a black which is black. The other colors follow from that. Costs only a few EUR and about 5 minutes time and then you have it set correctly. If you use a correct calibration card in your picture (just put it next to the guitar) you'll be sure you have the correct color from beginning to end. No guessing around. If you know how to read a histogram, you'll be able to tell whether the pic was taken correctly or not.

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Post subject: Re: The mystery of sonic blue
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 7:23 am
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Just picked a Sonic Blue Squire Bullet and when I opened the box, it def appeared mint green in most lighting. Sonic Blue isn't offered today in the Bullet, could it have faded? Shipped in the original box that was marked "Sonic Blue." Any thoughts?


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Post subject: Re: The mystery of sonic blue
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:24 am
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Don't know for sonic blue, but LPB turns green under the guard , that's for sure...

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Post subject: Re: The mystery of sonic blue
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:08 am
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alainlafrance wrote:
Don't know for sonic blue, but LPB turns green under the guard , that's for sure...


Not always.

I've examined authentic examples of original vintage Strats that appeared to be Sherwood Green or Ocean Turquoise Metallic but beneath the pickguard the finish was definitely Lake Placid Blue.

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Post subject: Re: The mystery of sonic blue
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:08 am
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Here is a photo of my 1963 Precision in Sonic Blue, taken around 1985. This was my first bass and I played it for 25 years.
I know that photos don't always show the true colors, but this one is a very good likeness of the actual color. I have always felt that it is actually lighter than photos of newer Fenders in Sonic Blue. It appears lighter, or more faded than ones I've seen in shops too.
IIRC, that bass did fade in color over the years that I owned it.

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A point of interest is that this bass had a coat of brown underneath the blue. This led me to wonder about the brown color. Why was that there? Was it a primer coat? Was this a factory finish or refin?
I don't remember a brown in any Fender instruments.

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