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Post subject: EC Grey/Daphne Blue with Lace Sensors and early 1990s specs?
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:23 am
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The Custom Shop produced exact replications of Clapton's current personal stage guitars in 2010.

There were built to the great bluesman's specifications with Fender Vintage-Noiseless™ pickups, active TBX (Teambuilt only) and MDX tone controls.

However, I suspect if it's possible to order a Daphne Blue (flame maple) or an EC Grey (birdseye maple) built to the early 1990s specs with Lace Sensor pickups and a cigarette holder with the burning chip on the head.

IMHO these photos are very familiar, the present and the past ! :wink:

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Post subject: Re: EC Grey/Daphne Blue with Lace Sensors and early 1990s sp
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:55 am
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IMHO, you have lighting affecting the true color of the finish here. We've always had questions as to whether or not 'anthracite' or 'pewter' were simply a name toss-up for the actual color of the finish, or actually two different finishes. Secondly, they may have retired the blue and grey as an option for that guitar.

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Post subject: Re: EC Grey/Daphne Blue with Lace Sensors and early 1990s sp
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:02 am
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Yeah, but Eric still uses Daphnes and EC Greys.

Though they were retired I guess Fender will went back in their decision to drop EC Grey and Daphne Blue from the colour chart and add the two finishes as standard colour options for the Masterbuilt versions of the guitar as they did with the Gold Leaf Strat.

As for the photos... did you spot differences between these two stage shots? The picture shown below dates from late 1988/early 1989 and the other was from his recent Japanese gigs with Steve Winwood.

Behind the Soldano/Marshall stuff there was a MusicMan head sitting on the top of a Yamaha cab. Eric stopped using MusicMan amps in the late 1970s/early 1980s!

The clothes he wears on the pics are identical, matching the two grey-finished Strats to perfection ! :)


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Post subject: Re: EC Grey/Daphne Blue with Lace Sensors and early 1990s sp
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:18 am
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An understanding of what contributes to color comprises an important part of the esthetics demands in the services I provide daily. What I see in those two photos are the differences in the skin tones which tells me that the 'color temperatures' in the lighting are different, and that alone will affect the nature of the images of the guitars. Lets assume that the guitar strap is the same Ernie Ball strap he's used for years. Look at the color difference there alone.

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Post subject: Re: EC Grey/Daphne Blue with Lace Sensors and early 1990s sp
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:39 pm
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the music man head was to drive the leslie cab

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Post subject: Re: EC Grey/Daphne Blue with Lace Sensors and early 1990s sp
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:01 pm
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Nice example to show how lighting can affect the appearance of a color; the bottom picture is a Pewter finish which actually is a shade lighter than EC Grey, in the pictures here it looks just the opposite way.


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Post subject: Re: EC Grey/Daphne Blue with Lace Sensors and early 1990s sp
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:33 pm
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With a good photo editor like Photoshop, it's easy to alter the picture above and add the holder on the headstock with the smoke cloud coming from a burning cigarette (even if Eric doesn't smoke tobacco anymore!).


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Post subject: Re: EC Grey/Daphne Blue with Lace Sensors and early 1990s sp
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:05 pm
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Ah, but then again, you don't need a cigarette holder... just let it burn into the wood, nothing beats a good cigarette burn on the headstock of a black stratocaster. :wink:


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Post subject: Re: EC Grey/Daphne Blue with Lace Sensors and early 1990s sp
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:16 pm
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ZZDoc wrote:
An understanding of what contributes to color comprises an important part of the esthetics demands in the services I provide daily. What I see in those two photos are the differences in the skin tones which tells me that the 'color temperatures' in the lighting are different, and that alone will affect the nature of the images of the guitars. Lets assume that the guitar strap is the same Ernie Ball strap he's used for years. Look at the color difference there alone.


The newer picture is one of the new leather straps he is now using, and it is brown.

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Post subject: Re: EC Grey/Daphne Blue with Lace Sensors and early 1990s sp
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:36 pm
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Krab wrote:
ZZDoc wrote:
An understanding of what contributes to color comprises an important part of the esthetics demands in the services I provide daily. What I see in those two photos are the differences in the skin tones which tells me that the 'color temperatures' in the lighting are different, and that alone will affect the nature of the images of the guitars. Lets assume that the guitar strap is the same Ernie Ball strap he's used for years. Look at the color difference there alone.


The newer picture is one of the new leather straps he is now using, and it is brown.


Not sure if these straps are also made by Ernie Ball.


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Post subject: Re: EC Grey/Daphne Blue with Lace Sensors and early 1990s sp
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:48 am
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chromeface wrote:
Krab wrote:
ZZDoc wrote:
An understanding of what contributes to color comprises an important part of the esthetics demands in the services I provide daily. What I see in those two photos are the differences in the skin tones which tells me that the 'color temperatures' in the lighting are different, and that alone will affect the nature of the images of the guitars. Lets assume that the guitar strap is the same Ernie Ball strap he's used for years. Look at the color difference there alone.


The newer picture is one of the new leather straps he is now using, and it is brown.


Not sure if these straps are also made by Ernie Ball.


I think they are. They might still be designed by Gianni Versace like he had in the early 90's

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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:32 am
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You're joking... Gianni died a couple of years ago :!:

The straps EC actually uses did not have the multicoloured patterns for which Versace is famous.

Two Versace straps were Eric's main choice for his Journeyman tour, one was made for Fender and the other for Ernie Ball. These straps were used on the "smoker's guitars" he played during that period. Shortly after the last RAH shows in 1991 which closed the Journeyman era, Eric went back to solid black Ernie Ball straps and stayed with them until 2009.


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Post subject: Re: EC Grey/Daphne Blue with Lace Sensors and early 1990s sp
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:35 pm
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chromeface wrote:
You're joking... Gianni died a couple of years ago :!:

The straps EC actually uses did not have the multicoloured patterns for which Versace is famous.

Two Versace straps were Eric's main choice for his Journeyman tour, one was made for Fender and the other for Ernie Ball. These straps were used on the "smoker's guitars" he played during that period. Shortly after the last RAH shows in 1991 which closed the Journeyman era, Eric went back to solid black Ernie Ball straps and stayed with them until 2009.


Just because someone is dead doesn't mean something they did in the past still isn't around. My father died eight years ago but hit voice over work is still in use, Maybe these were something he had designed a few years ago. Maybe they are just the plain Ernie Ball Leather straps with out the EB logo. Maybe Eric took up leather working in his free time.

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Post subject: Re: EC Grey/Daphne Blue with Lace Sensors and early 1990s sp
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:58 am
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Black was not available as a colour option before 1991.

Finally, Eric changed his mind and approved that finish.

The result was the first signature "Blackie" made by J.W. Black, better known as the "smoker's guitar".

If my memory serves me well, Clapton presented the "smoker's Blackie" during an interview with the late Beatle George Harrison.

As a huge Clapton fan, I was always in love with a Blackie on my hands. This MIJ Squier Silver Strat is my eldest brother's guitar, not mine.

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The original black parts were replaced with white and the stock pickups with Gold Lace Sensors, No mid-boost installed on this one. Bridge is an American 2-point pivot. Other features include an Easyglider string guide, 21 American Standard jumbo frets and Gotoh tuners with staggered posts.

Nice project for a Blackie Tribute, uh?

I've just took some pictures with my Kodak Easyshare camera, unfortunately I forgot to store them in my disk to upload them with Flickr.

PS: Date was not set-up yet, don't be afraid for the wrong date settings.


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Post subject: Re: EC Grey/Daphne Blue with Lace Sensors and early 1990s sp
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:33 am
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chromeface wrote:
Black was not available as a colour option before 1991.

Finally, Eric changed his mind and approved that finish.

The result was the first signature "Blackie" made by J.W. Black, better known as the "smoker's guitar".

If my memory serves me well, Clapton presented the "smoker's Blackie" during an interview with the late Beatle George Harrison.


Hi,

Yeah - here's the video. It begins (at where I've linked) with Eric showed off the Michael Stevens 'Blackie' - the 1st one - and then moves on to the JW Black 'Blackie' with the special hole in the headstock :mrgreen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... -EY#t=138s

What's interesting (well, you'll all be the judge of that...) is the 1st one (Michael Stevens) already has the paint worn off the back, basically a year(ish) since it was first used by Eric in the summer of '90. So I'm guessing he either wore sandpaper belt-buckles, or they didn't finish his bodies with the same finish we regular folks get. I'm guessing the latter as his black guitars never seemed to have the deep gloss finish of the regular CS productions. They all seemed to look rather 'roughed up' and old looking when they catch the stage-lights, which you can see in this vid too.


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