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Post subject: Certificate of Authenticity, Important ?
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:39 am
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G'day, I have recently bought a near new Custom Classic but it came with no certificate. I have no doubt that the guitar is geniune.

I have no intention of selling it but I'm wondering if these certificates are important. Will this affect the actual value?

Is there any way of replacing the certificte?

Thanks ......Mark.


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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:51 am
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If you still have contact with the Seller and if hewas the original Purchaser, you can ask him to contact the Dealer where he bought the guitar new and the Dealer can get a new COA from Fender.

The absence of COA may affect the value for some Buyers.


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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:31 am
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Hmmm, I did ask him about the certificate, but he said it was long gone. He had the guitar put away since 05 and I'm not sure if he was the original owner. Although she's in perfect condition, I think there are now too many degrees of separation between me and the Custom Shop.

The lack of a COA was a concern for me, but I eventually did buy it unseen after many photographs sent and conversations and I'm delighted with the purchase. It would have been nice to hang on the wall but ahh well. A piece of paper could be faked more easily than a guitar of this Quality. Who know what became of the original? I've seen them on ebay

I guess CS can't send out replacement certificates to any clown claiming to have one of their guitars.

All good, Thanks. Mark.


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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:40 am
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I guess CS can't send out replacement certificates to any clown claiming to have one of their guitars. All good, Thanks. Mark.

Suggest you have the guitar taken apart to photograph the dates on the neck pocket, the neck end, the serial numbers on the head stock, and the neck plate. Send these along with front and back photos of the guitar assembled, to the Custom Shop and ask if it is possible to issue a new COA. Another suggestion, for matters such as these, is to post the question to Mike Eldred's Forum. :idea:
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:58 am
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Doc,
I imagine the FCS would be quickly saturated with demands.
If the original guitar has been modified, up to what extent could they issue a new COA.
How many COAs per guitar ??
Not viable.


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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:19 am
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I imagine the FCS would be quickly saturated with demands.
If the original guitar has been modified, up to what extent could they issue a new COA.How many COAs per guitar ?? Not viable.

Point well made. However, they could verify the veracity of the build date for the buyer.

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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:23 am
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Without the letter, to me I would look upon it as a fake.

There are too many makers of fender parts out there, there would always be a doubt as to if it was a custom shop or made in someones garage custom shop.

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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:45 pm
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Without the letter, to me I would look upon it as a fake.

There are too many makers of fender parts out there, there would always be a doubt as to if it was a custom shop or made in someones garage custom shop.


Some guitars from the FCS are so unique and might be so expensive to reproduce, that sometimes, you indulge yourself with buying one without a COA.
But that's the exception, at least for me... :wink:


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I was told by my repair guy, that someone he knew was charged over $100 bucks by the CS to replace his cert, and that street value is ~$400. Any truth to this ya think? I think that is rediculous.


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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:33 pm
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Thankyou folks for your responses and words of wisdom. I may impose on Mr Eldred at some future time when I have photos of the neck and pocket.

A certificate would have been great but I understand the problems involved.

For now anyway, here are the details.

2005 Fender Custom Classic Stratocaster
One piece Ash body with transparent Cobalt Blue nitro finish.
AAA flamed maple neck
Serial number CZ507127

It has all the case candy and the correct case, but no COA. It still has the plastic film. I love this guitar. Of course it's genuine. Thanks everyone.


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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:38 pm
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Fender do provide (for a fee) replacement certificates for unmodified CS instruments via approved Fender dealers.

Email consumerrelations@fender.com and they will provide you with the details of how to go about it.


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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:27 am
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The COA does indicate to many potential buyers that by having all of the papers and material that was issued with the guitar, (documentation is often critical to collectors) it is more likely to be original, and of course, that is not necessarily true. Given that the Custom Classic has not yet achieved "collectible" status, the COA doesn't appreciably increase the guitar's value, but it's always good to have. E-mail the C-shop and see what they can do. (They are awfully accomodating). Since you indicate that you have no intention of selling the guitar, you obviously like the way it feels and sounds. So, just play and enjoy, because that's what it was built for!


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i bought mine( *cs) used and insisted the music store call fender to get an authenticity letter!! your entitled why not? it arrived 6 weeks later fender will issue lost authenticity notes ,unlike gibson custom shop!!!


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Post subject: Re: Certificate of Authenticity, Important ?
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:28 am
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I lost mine recently, and even don't ever planning to sell my guitar, this certificate is something I really would like to have.


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Bottled wrote:
Fender do provide (for a fee) replacement certificates for unmodified CS instruments via approved Fender dealers.

Email consumerrelations@fender.com and they will provide you with the details of how to go about it.


This is correct. Type up a letter requesting a replacement COA, take pictures of your guitar that show the complete guitar in a single photo - don't recall if they need both front and back.

Take photos and request to an authorized custom shop dealer and for $75 they can get you a replacement COA. The replacement COA will be dated on the the day the replacement was issued - not the guitar manufacture date.

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