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Post subject: RUINED????? Possible Sienna strat spray-pained blue.
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:04 am
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HI, I really need some help on this one, badly. I have purchased an American 2001 Strat which is likely one of the Sienna Burst Strats but the previous owner, in a flash of creative genius,
decided the instrument would benefit from a thick application of cheap blue spray paint, right over the nice finished lacquer. What is the best way to remove the spray paint without harming the clear finish beneath? Is sanding my only option or is there a chemical treatment of some kind? THis fine instrument NEEDS to be rescued. The paint is just cheap blue paint one might purchase from any department or craft store.

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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:07 am
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Why did you buy it in such condition ?
Is it a CS Strat ?


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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:26 pm
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I doubt it, unless "custom Body" means it is a custom shop guitar. This is something I am not sure about. CAn you help me with some information?

Thank you, very much.


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Post subject: Photos of Very blue start
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:54 pm
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Yes, I will post several images Tuesday morning of the guitar in question. I am not sure how photos will affect anyone's answer, but I guess that is MY problem. I purchased the guitar for a couple of reasons: First: it really appalled me to see that someone had really done this to such a nice instrument and I figured if I could get it out of harm's way, further damage could be avoided. 2nd, the price made it attractive to make the purchase even knowing that some cash would have to be invested to bring this back to a serious condition. (Seller threw in a few extra items.) I figured the very worst that could happen is that I would have to completely hand-sand the entire body and then have it re- varnished by either a luthier or a furniture maker, possibly a talented auto-body painter.... someone who really knew their way around a paint booth. I personally favor seeing as much of the natural wood as possible so that should make the job reasonable one in the end.


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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:05 am
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I cant see you just removing the blue paint. In the long run I would believe you are going to have to get the whole guitar refinished which is not going to have made this the bargain you thought it was. I still would love to know what the idiot who did this was thinking. Beautiful Sienna burst Blue spray paint, yes that is difficult to choose.


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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:43 am
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Looks like I am going to find an image host. Looks like I cannot upload my images directly to this forum. PLease, thanks for your patience with me.


In the meantime I am getting a number of interesting suggestions from various readers. There must be some way to get rid of this stupid blue paint that makes sense.


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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:35 pm
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Ya, for those curious: I got an insane deal on it. As FOR "THINKING" I don't believe thinking was any part of the decision to apply the blue spray paint to begin with.


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Post subject: Re: RUINED????? Possible Sienna strat spray-pained blue.
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:40 pm
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HI, I really need some help on this one, badly. I have purchased an American 2001 Strat which is likely one of the Sienna Burst Strats but the previous owner, in a flash of creative genius,
decided the instrument would benefit from a thick application of cheap blue spray paint, right over the nice finished lacquer. What is the best way to remove the spray paint without harming the clear finish beneath? Is sanding my only option or is there a chemical treatment of some kind? THis fine instrument NEEDS to be rescued. The paint is just cheap blue paint one might purchase from any department or craft store.

Thank you.

Not having seen it, i would imagine very careful sanding to be the best bet.Hopefully the spray paint hasn't melted and bonded with the original finish too much. I would probably start with a very fine grit, to not have too aggressive a cut maybe experiment a little to find one that lets you cut through the spray paint but not be so aggressive as to easily sand through to the original paint.

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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:49 am
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OK.. Let's see how this works out. I have uploaded the images to an image hosting site. Here are 2 links. ONe image is the front of the body, the other image is tha back of the body. If anyone has trouble, let me know and I will email you the pictures directly if you'd like,

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http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/874/bluestrat2.jpg

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8436/bluestrat1.jpg

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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:20 am
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No way that neck is a genuine Fender neck, that heel just screams Asian copy!

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Post subject: Original Neck
Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:40 am
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You are 100% correct. It is not the original neck. WHat the guy did was he took off the Fender neck and put on a Carvin Neck which is part of what you see pictures here. As necks go, it is really very nice, in fact I have to admit I like the feel of as much as I do the original. When I bought this from him, he also gave me the original Fender neck which is absolutely in pristine condition. Now, how do I get the damn blue paint off? Thanks.


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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:36 pm
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lotsa elbow grease. Even then it's gonna be a chore to only sand off the blue paint. In fact it may be actually impossible to remove without harming the original paint. if the paints bonded, or if the original was roughed up to allow the new paint to adhere.

It would be a much easier task to remove all the paint and redo it, that it will be to try remove just the blue. Personally I know what i would do. Wish i knew a way to strip the spray paint but not touch the other.

on the bright side, carvin necks are really nice.

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Post subject: CHemicals and tools
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:30 am
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Last night I tried to chip off some of the blue spray paint with a dull dental tool and to my surprise, some actually flaked right off. It clearly has NOT bonded to the finish underneath. SO now the burning question do I just go at it that way and just plan on it taking quite a few hours or should I take a swing at a couple of the chemicals I have purchased. I had hoped that someone from support would have gotten back to me by now, but I guess I am on my own on this one.

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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:59 pm
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Man, this IS discouraging.


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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:56 pm
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I would be discouraged too, but not with the people here and the replies you've had, just with the problem!

I suspect that only a guitar re-finisher or restorer would have any idea how to remove paint from the surface of other paint without harming the original finish! It can be done it would seem, as one of Jimmy Bryant's double bound teles was restored from a painted over state to its original glory, but the work was carried out at the Custom Shop, and on an historic guitar. I don't know, but can only guess that it was done with painstaking hand sanding! I would suspect that is possibly your only "safe" method, and even then you'll have to go "so" carefully!

By all means try your chemicals first, but in an inconspicuous spot like in a pickup rout where it won't be noticed if it burns right through. If it only takes off the blue top, then it might be safe to carry on, but I just think the risk of damage to the original paint is quite high! Good luck!


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