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Post subject: Joe Strummer Tele
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:08 pm
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does anyone actually love the Joe Strummer tribute Tele?!
i would actually marry it if marrying guitars was legal
i love the idea of customising with the stencils and stickers
im really feelin the worn out look aswl


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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:38 am
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I just got an email from Fender that I could enter a contest to win one of these pieces of crap. I told them that they could keep it.

Joe Strummer was not a "guitar hero" of any note and his trashed guitar should have been a none-of-a-kind.

Love it?????

HATE IT!


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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:49 am
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BTW-

I really MUST thank the marketing department at Fender for successfully creating a niche for wannabe's w/ more money than sense and an appetite for stringed knock-offs as wall-hangings. :wink:

-keeps the prices reasonable on the Squier line and FM amps. 8)


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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:25 am
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I think its a nice tribute to Joe Strummer, but Joe Strummer never would of wanted his name on a guitar nonetheless on a dockmartens ad.The price for it is rediculous, Joe bought his tele for $129, and we have to pay $900.00 for a standard tele.
I'd love win it in that contest, because Im a HUGE Clash and Mescolero fan.
But I wouldnt buy it.


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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:31 pm
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black51 wrote:
I just got an email from Fender that I could enter a contest to win one of these pieces of crap. I told them that they could keep it.

Joe Strummer was not a "guitar hero" of any note and his trashed guitar should have been a none-of-a-kind.

Love it?????

HATE IT!


Hate is a pretty strong word there friend. Obviously we all know Joe Strummer was no guitar hero, but this is the guitar that helped shape the way rock music is today. Never in a million years could Joe Strummer play like Hendrix or SRV, but he used the talent he did have to bring punk rock to the masses. Marley was no guitar wizard and look at how is idolized as a guitarist an songwriter. This isn't a shot on you, but I think some people need to re-think that a legendary guitarist isn''t determined by how fast and smooth he can play, but how much he can push music forward in a good way.


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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:36 am
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I think some people need to re-think that a legendary guitarist isn''t determined by how fast and smooth he can play, but how much he can push music forward in a good way.


Ahh yes - by all means - let's lower the standards. That's how an illiterate gets a HS diploma and ID becomes science, isn't it? :?

My nephew thinks he can play because he's good at Guitar Hero. His sense of self-worth might just require a "Signature-model" controller, don't you think? :twisted:


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Post subject: wow, dogging on your own fam, huh.
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:02 am
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musicians that become huge icons, are because they move music foward(im agreeing). i take it that black 51, owns a squier 51 and can play it like slowhand. however, i have to disagree on your way of thinking, you are an instigator. whatever, im not sure i spelled it right.lol.
really, dude, be humble, nobody is lowering standards. honestly, i dont even know who is joe strummer, i like the beat up tele. if i had the cash, i would pay 900 for it. however, im more of a strat guy now.
slash is a very humble person. he is a iconic guitarist.
oh, and be nice to your nephew, you may look up to him someday, not the other way around.


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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:14 am
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You know, you're absolutely right. Fender has a marketing team and they're listening to them about what musicians want - overpriced poser relics.

Would you like to know what happens to a rare commodity when someone starts replicating it? It loses its value. There should only be ONE "Blackie", "Pearly Gates", "Lucille", "#1", "Lenny", or "Frankenstrat". These names only mean something when the lady's in the hands of Clapton, Gibbons, King, Vaughan or Van Halen. In your hands or mine, "Blackie" is just a Strat. Clapton doesn't seem to be very sentimental over guitars. He auctioned "Blackie" off recently and Todd Rundgren has had the old psychedellic SG for years now. I mentioned "Lucille" for one reason. Have you ever seen so much as a smudge on BB King's guitar? So much for relics.

Speaking of Strats - here's a more to-the-point example of what I'm talking about. I DO own a '51, but I also own a Squier Standard Series Strat. Because of that guitar, a Strat is worth no more to me than $200 - the street price of a Squier. Pay the full price for a Fender model, it had better be shielded w/ gold foil or there is not another $600 worth of value in it anywhere.

Add to that - a Squier has the full strength of the Fender brand behind it. They have to meet a minimum standard for a Strat in order to not weaken that Fender brand. Fender is crazy to mirror their most iconic products(Strats and Teles) in the Squier line. It has led to a Squier + hype = Fender attitude that is prevalent among older Squier players. My local Fender dealer figures Fender is going for the Sharper Image/J Peterman catagory of "snob appeal" purchasers.

Punk was all about rebellion - hence the skateboard crap on guitars like Strummer's. It was even a rebellion in favor of minimalism over prowess. You could get a record deal w/ beginner's chops - like Joe Strummer's.

If he could, a punk like Joe Strummer would be spinning in his grave laughing over having his one-of-a-kind beater turned into an inflated conversation piece for yuppies w/ more money than sense.


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Post subject: black 51
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:18 pm
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dude, really im impressed with your ability to express yourself like a scholar. you know, i do agree with the squier brand, they are excellent guitars. you are absolutely correct on the devaluation process that takes place when a one of kind is mass produced. i really dont care whos behind that guitar, its a cool looking guitar, i hope it plays well though.
ill tell you one thing, i would much rather have a squier 51 over joe strummer tele. the only thing that i was commenting on was, as an eduducated person like yourself, should only be more humble (and only by your expression on your guitar hero neph) snob down on your own family. you drive a huge argument with facts, and knowledge backing them up.


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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:30 am
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cyclingjar-

I appreciate your comments. Humility can be an attractive quality - if not taken to excess to express a lack of self-confidence.

After over 30 years behind a guitar, I can be both humble and confident.

Back to Fender and its place in the market:

I often think of my old '67 Esquire with regret - not because I sold a highly collectible guitar for $150 - but because I sold it just before companies like DiMarzio, Schecter emerged to knock Fender off its complacent butt by bringing their guitars up to snuff w/ quality after-market parts(like 6-saddle Tele bridges).


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Post subject: black 51
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:46 am
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30 years? are you that guy from dolphinstreet,lol? by the way have you changed out the pickups on that 51? on experience, im still a promising amateur. developing my own style as i go along. i find myself enjoying playing stuff like blues, electric and acoustic. what is your primary genre?


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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:00 pm
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dolphinstreet???

Sorry - don't get the joke. Actually, I'd planned to drop a DiMarzio humbucker I'd been using into the '51, but the stock pickups are so sweet, I kept them.

My Standard Series Strat, however, got a set of GFS(GuitarFetish) overwound '70's greybottoms. They also have custom pickguards for '51's - I put white pearl on mine.

http://yhst-50206111187217.stores.yahoo.net/


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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:29 pm
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Oh yeah - you asked my primary genre.

It's blues-based hard rock. Since I'm over 50 and I've been playing in bars since before I was old enough to drink in them, I have a long history of classic rock influences to draw from.

Time reeference: Ronnie Dio's band, The Elves, used to play covers at my HS dances.

It seems my heroes have all been strat players - Hendrix, Clapton, Beck, Trower, etc.
For example - when I described the sound I was looking for from my strat to the folks at GuitarFetish, I told them I wanted a "Blackmore" sound.

BTW - they DELIVERED!


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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:52 am
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Despite the fact that this is a marketing ploy, look past the fact that Joe Strummer's name is on the guitar. I played one for about an hour and decided to buy one not just because I love The Clash, but because this guitar rocks. It plays extremely well and has a great sound. The look is a bit cheesy, but it gives the player an easily customizable guitar.


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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:48 am
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Good, I hope you really enjoy your new guitar.

Joe strummer was a legend!!!


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