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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:58 pm
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I hear ya Niki...makes me wonder where my old 4 door Dodge is with the Fender logo from one of my old amps in place of "Dodge". :? :shock: :wink:


I had a feeling that Fender didn't make cars but the guy I bought it from showed me the logo and told me otherwise. I should of taken off the driver side door and looked for the serial number. I'm just a sucker for everything Fender and I should have known that a Fender car was too good to be true.

Anyway Mike, I bought it in Nashville from a guy named Tom Murphy. He crashed it a couple of times but said it was worth more because he crashed it. I never really understood the concept of relicing, especially when applied to cars. :?



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Miami Mike wrote:
I hear ya Niki...makes me wonder where my old 4 door Dodge is with the Fender logo from one of my old amps in place of "Dodge". :? :shock: :wink:


I had a feeling that Fender didn't make cars but the guy I bought it from showed me the logo and told me otherwise. I should of taken off the driver side door and looked for the serial number. I'm just a sucker for everything Fender and I should have known that a Fender car was too good to be true.

Anyway Mike, I bought it in Nashville from a guy named Tom Murphy. He crashed it a couple of times but said it was worth more because he crashed it. I never really understood the concept of relicing, especially when applied to cars. :?



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Gives me some wonderfull ideas for my car. The drummer in our band builds hotrods, my volkswagon is feeling a little plain next to his 3.8 flat head ford. Perhaps the volks needs modding.

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Gives me some wonderfull ideas for my car. The drummer in our band builds hotrods, my volkswagon is feeling a little plain next to his 3.8 flat head ford. Perhaps the volks needs modding.


This guy likes his VW [unplain]:

http://www.cjbuggs.com/images/vw_logos.jpg

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$179.16 :shock:

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were there guitar parts there?? I didn't see any, only hot babes. Love the babes, hate the scammer!!!


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Heres the latestt in this sorry series. Exactly what the initial sale leads to.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fender-custom-shop-strat-1994_W0QQitemZ290317797687QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item43984a0937&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A2109%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A2%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A24

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and another...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-CUSTOM-SHOP- ... 7C294%3A50

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Brad acknowledged receiving my email and is informing the right people!


Cool. What that guy is doing on ebay...not cool at all-

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH!!!! THIS IS BY FAR THE FUNNIEST FAKE I HAVE EVER SEEN!

Mike, done any work form KOREA lately? maybe a little stealth building??

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Wow. The ignorance..

I think I just got a little dumber looking at that.


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Hi All,
I just discovered the fender.com forum and accidentally came across this thread when looking for some info about Clapton Strats.
After reading the discussion I felt stronly enough about it that I wanted to share my opinion and clear up the dirt thrown at the original seller (Mandi) since I got to have several discussions with him years ago.

First if people are willing to pay a high price for a useless piece of metal/paper then more power to them, that is just one option for the buyer of a guitar to significantly bring the cost of the guitar down.

I do believe that in the wide majority of cases the buyer simply wants to make a customized Fender guitar look special with a CS plate and has zero intent of passing it for one when he eventually sells it.

About the seller, I know he has a legitimate physical guitar business, as a side offering he oftern renovates/upgrades genuine Fender instruments which is when he gets rid of the COA\/neck plate since they are 1)high value, and 2)meaningless once the guitar is ugpraded with a licensed body or neck.

Bottom line is that I understand some don't like seeing COAs/neck plates offered for sale, and I agree that any forged plate or COA should be pulled out and the seller shut down. However, I am also 99.9% sur that the seller (Mandi's...) is offering the real deal and therefore I can't see why you would want him shut down for that.


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The selling of COA'a and neckplates is just the same as the selling of waterslide fake decals. It leads to guitars being faked/forged, no matter what you think. If the seller is so honest and the coa is worth nothing then why not bin it. Why not grind the serial no off the neckplate?

Personaly i wouldnt buy a customshop guitar without a coa and neckplate. I think that to spend the cash on a CS instrument then flog the coa is nothing but cheap. Its like selling one of your pickups or a tuner, it leaves the instrument incomplete.

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Decals are counterfeit in the first place, genuine COAs/neck plates are not. If you want to blame what the end user might do then by the same token we should ban blank DVDs/CDs and a lot of other things. I do see and respect your point in the sense that the COA/neck plate will never end up on its original guitar. However I just don't put in the same bag someone who wants to ornate his guitar to feel good about it (as ridiculous as it is) versus those buying the COA/plate to fake a guitar and maximize profit.

Everyone can have a different opinion and I don't want to defend this seller (Mandi) for selling genuine COAs/neck plates, I'm fine with it, others are not, end of story.
My only point was that the guy is selling genuine COAs/plates, not fakes like some claim he is.

As for grinding the COA/plate, the point is precisely that it is not worth nothing since some are interested in them (whatever their motives are). Would you got to the ATM only to burm the cash ? If so, please send the bills my way rather than burning them :-)


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[quote="nikininja"]The selling of COA'a and neckplates is just the same as the selling of waterslide fake decals. It leads to guitars being faked/forged, no matter what you think. If the seller is so honest and the coa is worth nothing then why not bin it. Why not grind the serial no off the neckplate?

It's obvious that the respondent's interests are strictly self with no regard for the integrity of the COA as part and parcel of the original product and it's purpose in being issued by the company. This is not a matter of counterfeiting. It is rather facilitating misrepresentation and deception in the aggregate. What he ought to do is thoroughly familiarize himself with trademark and patent law as it pertains to this activity and, on the advice of counsel, determine whether he is, or is not open to FMIC taking legal action against any vendor or venue trafficking in items such as neck plates COA's, decals and the lot.

Beyond this...any further discussion with him would be moot. T'would be "a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

I'm done with this :?

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