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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:31 pm
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:49 am
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You'll get quicker results messing with the settings on your amp and effects, I think. Pickups make a huge difference to your sound, but change them after you've tried everything that basically consists of twiddling a knob so that you don't just end up chasing your tail. What your guitar can do like few others can is nail a Hendrix sound (in the right hands, of course! Massive ones like Jimi's wouldn't hurt..heh). Vai and Satriani tend to use humbuckers... nothing you do will make your guitar sound exactly like that, but you can still get a lovely thick crunch out of a single coil with a good overdrive pedal and a decent amp. Malmsteen... heh. Turn your gain up until you sound like a jar of flies and play as fast as humanly possible... to my ears, that guy has a very thin tone, just a lot of buzzing going on... I mean, he can definitely play, it's just an unpleasant overall sound to me. Anyway...

Like most recorded guitarists, those guys all PLAY LOUD, and there's no real substitute for cranking your amp up and shifting a lot of air. You can get close if your amp has a master volume and separate gain/preamp/stack knob, as you can turn up the gain until it's breaking up nicely and then control the overall volume with the master. Amps with those features will often have a footswitch so you can set one channel to be a bluesier crunch and the other to be an all-out face-melting lead. I dunno what pedals you have to work with, but once you start adding those in it'll be a long time before you get around to thinking about whether or not you need different pickups.

Apologies if you know all this stuff and have already tried every combination known to man... I'd just want to make sure that you've looked at all the cheap/easy/fun options for modifying your "muddy twang" before you switch pickups and are still unsatisfied.

One thing that I've found to be quite useful and enjoyable is to use amp modelling software like Native Instruments' Guitar Rig to experiment with emulations of other guitarist's tones. Users create and share their own presets, and some of them sound very accurate. You can also get a good idea of the sort of effects these guys use in different situations by looking at the effects and amps in each preset file. If you give it a try, you may be surprised by the sounds you end up liking the most! I was never that much of a Pink Floyd fan*, but the "Comfortably Numb" preset would bring out the guitar hero in anybody.

* emphasis on the was... I've been making up for lost time; it's been quite a treat


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Post subject: Re: CUSTOM SHOP PICKUP CHANGE GOOD OR BAD IDEA?
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:50 pm
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koocho wrote:
I just bought a custom shop 60s strat serial no. r40739 olympic white mint green pick guard custom shop bumps and bruises now when I CRANK THE DISTORTION I get a muddy sound sort of twangy it sounds awful u see I LIKE playing satriani ,vai , malmsteen and then I LOVE to switch over to stevie ray vaughan would u guys recommend changing the pickups on such a high end strat or fool around with my amplification I just dont want to fool around with the integredy of the instrument unless its not a big deal thanks


Why would you change the pickups to a CS you bought? ... I guess you can change the loaded pickguard so you don't do any unchangeable modifications to it...


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Post subject: Re: CUSTOM SHOP PICKUP CHANGE GOOD OR BAD IDEA?
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:19 pm
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koocho wrote:
I just bought a custom shop 60s strat serial no. r40739 olympic white mint green pick guard custom shop bumps and bruises now when I CRANK THE DISTORTION I get a muddy sound sort of twangy it sounds awful u see I LIKE playing satriani ,vai , malmsteen and then I LOVE to switch over to stevie ray vaughan would u guys recommend changing the pickups on such a high end strat or fool around with my amplification I just dont want to fool around with the integredy of the instrument unless its not a big deal thanks


Why would you change the pickups to a CS you bought? ... I guess you can change the loaded pickguard so you don't do any unchangeable modifications to it...
no your right wasnt used to these 60s style pickups the first couple days but they have really started to grow on me


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Post subject: Re: CUSTOM SHOP PICKUP CHANGE GOOD OR BAD IDEA?
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:08 pm
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Synkronized wrote:
koocho wrote:
I just bought a custom shop 60s strat serial no. r40739 olympic white mint green pick guard custom shop bumps and bruises now when I CRANK THE DISTORTION I get a muddy sound sort of twangy it sounds awful u see I LIKE playing satriani ,vai , malmsteen and then I LOVE to switch over to stevie ray vaughan would u guys recommend changing the pickups on such a high end strat or fool around with my amplification I just dont want to fool around with the integredy of the instrument unless its not a big deal thanks


Why would you change the pickups to a CS you bought? ... I guess you can change the loaded pickguard so you don't do any unchangeable modifications to it...
by unchangeable modifications do u mean I could screw it up if I for example just changing the bridge pickup


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I recommend playing with pickup height before you do anything. If it sounds muddy try lowering the pickups.

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Post subject: Re: CUSTOM SHOP PICKUP CHANGE GOOD OR BAD IDEA?
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koocho wrote:
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koocho wrote:
I just bought a custom shop 60s strat serial no. r40739 olympic white mint green pick guard custom shop bumps and bruises now when I CRANK THE DISTORTION I get a muddy sound sort of twangy it sounds awful u see I LIKE playing satriani ,vai , malmsteen and then I LOVE to switch over to stevie ray vaughan would u guys recommend changing the pickups on such a high end strat or fool around with my amplification I just dont want to fool around with the integredy of the instrument unless its not a big deal thanks


Why would you change the pickups to a CS you bought? ... I guess you can change the loaded pickguard so you don't do any unchangeable modifications to it...
by unchangeable modifications do u mean I could screw it up if I for example just changing the bridge pickup


Yeah basically like unsoldering pots or soldering different pups to the pots and stuff... if you change the pickups try installing the whole loaded pickguard so if you change your mind later you just swap the whole loaded pickguard back :)

And also I agree about the pickup height thing...


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CAFeathers wrote:
I recommend playing with pickup height before you do anything. If it sounds muddy try lowering the pickups.
Icant believe I overlooked that the dealer is going to set it up properly u know tweek it here and there I will definetly mention that thanks alot


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I put Kinman Woodstocks with their K9 wiring harness in my CS 60's relic. Best guitar I ever heard.


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