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Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:56 pm
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Did you try changing the battery? Aside from that all i can think is that the polepiece on the middle pickup has gone south (maybe worth dropping the VN back in that position to see what happens) or that theres something wrong with the saddle for the High E.

I sincerely hope you get it sorted, it sounds a great guitar.

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[quote="SparkyG"]My EC Strat is as bought, I just swapped out the Pick ups. Chris recommend them to work well with the EC electronics and mid boost. I wanted a guitar that could cover all bases for gigs where I only had room for one guitar.

Seems to me you had just the guitar without any alterations. You need to learn how to EQ it between the TBX and the midboost (if that's the way yours is equipped) for the flexibility you seek. That's what makes the Clapton such a good all around axe. I've even seen it used for jazz with great effect.

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Interesting!
How do you normally match the TBX and the Mid Boost?

I normally have the TBX in the detented (middle) position, then adjust Vol and the Boost as required.

the problem I'm having is present with the boost on or off. But interested how you make the adjustments.

agree with you about it being flexible, that's why I got it, for small gigs where I don't have the room for my relic and my PRS, but still need to cover most styles/

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[quote="SparkyG"]DocInteresting! How do you normally match the TBX and the Mid Boost?I normally have the TBX in the detented (middle) position, then adjust Vol and the Boost as required.

**TBX stands for treble/bass cut. The detente position is a 'mid-range' setting where highs and lows are balanced. Counter-clockwise to 0' rolls off the highs completely. Clockwise to '10' rolls off the lows. The midboost enhances the midrange frequencies as well as given the signal more gain.
By tweaking these settings along with your master volume pot and pickup choices, you will be able to 'color' your guitar voicings. FYI...the Masterbuilt Clapton and....as far as we are able to determine....the CS version as well, have a standard tone pot as opposed to a TBX in that this is Eric's preference. Either way, it allows you to 'paint your wagon'.

**Fender also wires some of its guitars with the 'Dynatone' circuit which, at 10, cuts the tone control out of the circuit completely and give you clean signal from the pickups.

Personally, if I were looking for a 'Strat for all seasons', I would seriously consider if the VG voicings meet your needs. Or, look into the use of a Roland Guitar Synth to augment your signal chain.

In all of this we failed to ask if your problem began on installation of the new pickups. You ought to have a tech meter the circuits to see if anything is bleeding off, if the wiring was done correctly, and if any of the components are defective.

This is what, in my racket we call developing a problem list, doing a differential diagnosis, evaluating each of the possibilities and coming to a final determination.

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Update

Kinman gave me some tests to do in terms of pick up selections, heights etc, also some magnet strength tests, it seems the pole peice on the E string is weaker than the rest. They sent me instructions on how to re-gauss it, but I don't have access to Nedymium magnets, I mentioned I would have to buy some (only cheap) but they said no we'll send you a replacement. Very good service.

hopefully the replacement will sort it out.

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[quote="SparkyG"]Update


To their credit, Kinman is making an effort to make you whole. On the other hand, they did represent that what you chose was a satisfactory replacement for the Fender Noiseless pickups which are stock in the Clapton. Now admitting that the magnet is weaker speaks to the fact that they've always known this to be true. Hence, you were really not getting an equal exchange in terms of performance because now, even with their help, you have to retro fit this thing using your own time and labor. I hope the remedy serves you. Failing that, I'd be seeking a return and refund.

I wonder, after all of this, if you would have done better with SCN's (which I found worked quite well with that circuitry) or with Gold Lace Sensors, for that metter, which have a proven track record in that guitar.

In the matter of a correction....the Fender circuit I alluded to in my earlier comment is correctly named "Deltatone", a confusion which seems to persist in my aging memory.

Keep us posted.

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Update
Kinman sent me a replacement Bridge pickup, solved the problem

They confirmed today that the E magnet was only gaussing to 70% of what it should have, and complimented me on being able to hear the drop since that level is usually inaudible - which was nice. They apologized that their QC had not picked it up before shipping and also offered to pay the return postage for me, but I said not to worry (it was peanuts). Great service though , and getting a swift follow up like that was really good - and sadly not so commonplace with many companies these days.


So there is the answer.
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BTW these are a great upgrade over the fender noiseless. The Tone (to me) is so much better.

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[quote="SparkyG"]Update
Kinman sent me a replacement Bridge pickup, solved the problem


Excellent....We all learned something new on this one. :wink:

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Post subject: What are SCN's?
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:33 pm
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ZZ? What does SCN stand for?

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It Stands For:
Samarium Cobalt Noiseless(I think

See:

[url]http://www.fender.com/products//search.php?partno=0992104000

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SparkyG wrote:
It Stands For:
Samarium Cobalt Noiseless(I thinkSee:http://www.fender.com/products//search.php?partno=0992104000



That it does! They are essentially a stacked HB. They were introduced with the MIA Deluxes and the catalog at that time had a featured article on the how's and why's of their development. They were touted as the closest thing to vintage Strat tone in a noiseless pickup. You think they'd reinvented the wheel. Dig the hype on that URL :?: :?: :shock:

Maybe Clapton should put those Kinmans in HIS guitar. :idea:

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a bit off topic but... I'm having the exact same problems on my stock squier affinity strat. This has been happening ever since the nut was replaced (original one cracked, and replaced with an ernie ball bone nut).

I've tried all kinds of setups on the bridge.

you think I should try to buff the slot where the nut goes with sandpaper? The nut might be muting the strings, I think that's what may be.


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Hey SparkyG,

I'm planning to to the exact same thing, swap the VN for Kinmans in an Eric Clapton CS Strat. I've listened to many samples on the Kinman website and on youtube, and the pickups (MK-II) sound really great. But how do they sound in combination with the midboost on a clean setting (midboost on 0)? Can they still produce that nice vintage clean sound? According to areyouexperienced.net, the midboost circuitry has an output of approx. 76k even when turned to 0.

Is there any way to bypass the active circuit and have only the passive pickups do the work? That would make the EC strat even more versatile (e.g. Deltatone)


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Hey SparkyG,

I'm planning to to the exact same thing, swap the VN for Kinmans in an Eric Clapton CS Strat. I've listened to many samples on the Kinman website and on youtube, and the pickups (MK-II) sound really great. But how do they sound in combination with the midboost on a clean setting (midboost on 0)? Can they still produce that nice vintage clean sound? According to areyouexperienced.net, the midboost circuitry has an output of approx. 76k even when turned to 0.

Is there any way to bypass the active circuit and have only the passive pickups do the work? That would make the EC strat even more versatile (e.g. Deltatone)


The original Clapton design included a mini-toggle to turn the preamp on and off. This idea was ultimately discarded. Other commentaries do not laud these VN's going solo. The components were designed to function in unison nor do I think the concept of the guitar was to have that vintage "Stratty" tone, it was rather to provide the throat of a humbucker when set full.

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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:17 am
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TheMagician wrote:
a bit off topic but... I'm having the exact same problems on my stock squier affinity strat. This has been happening ever since the nut was replaced (original one cracked, and replaced with an ernie ball bone nut).

I've tried all kinds of setups on the bridge.

you think I should try to buff the slot where the nut goes with sandpaper? The nut might be muting the strings, I think that's what may be.


You might search nikininja's posts regarding the 'ninjanut' he's created.

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