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Post subject: May Have Finally Found One
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:10 pm
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Guys,

following up on a couple posts I had - I may have finally settled on the "One" - or at least the "Next One".

It happens to be a Midnight Blue EC Custom. It plays really really well and I fell in love with the neck on this immediately - just ever so slightly different than the Artist Series Claptons I had been trying out.

I did hacve one question, as this is the only CS Clapton I have been able to have contact with. It is very hard to describe but you can see vertical lines in the body - I suspect it is actually the grain of the wood? The guy at the store said that these had a very thin finish and that it was actually the grain that you could see all over the body when the light reflected a certain way. i dont think they are cracks or anything because the body is perfectly smooth. whatever it is is showing up through the finish. he indicated to me that even though it was a thin finish, it was poly and not nitro. i thought they only did thin nitro finishes on these.

at any rate, does this sound right? i was expecting a completely uniform appearance to the body because of the poly finish...the finish itself is regular, i just dont know what to think of those 'breaks' (i dont even know what to call them) in the pattern. Does anyone even have any idea what i am trying to describe? :oops:


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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:22 pm
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Just a couple of thoughts. If it's true to EC specs, it will have a poly finish. Eric likes the harder wearing surface, and could care less for any sort of relicing or nitrocellulose, as it is in fact a lighter finish, therefore not as durable.

As far as those "lines" are concerned, I'd have to see it. Dark paint on alder usually doesn't reveal many wood patterns. I have a 1962 in black, and no wood character shows up with that color finish.


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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 12:23 pm
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Wood is wood ;as and when the slight alterations of the wood will show off.
That's good as the lacquer is deeping into the wood.
Wood is still living even after being converted into a guitar body.
That's a good thing.


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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:02 pm
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"Wood is still living even after being converted into a guitar body."

Yes, and then try shipping it from California to other places around the world with varying temps and humidity ranges. You find out in a hurry that the wood is alive, and the changes will be reflected in how many times you reach for Allen keys and screw drivers! After a time, the wood "seats" and adapts to it's new surroundings, and everything is a sunny day!


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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:15 pm
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It is unusual with poly finishes too sick into the wood, although if the finish is really thin, I guess this could happen.


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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:18 pm
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guys,

trying to get a pic that shows this (which is only viewable at a certain angle anyway) from such a reflective surface is a ****.

Anyway, here is the best pic ive been able to get of it so far. It is basically in between the high E and B string saddles - working its way down to the bottom of the guitar. its sort of like a vertical 'break' or something. this type of effect is basically all over the body and is visible depending on how the light is reflecting off the body.

Is this normal for a poly finish on the clapton's? or even a thin skin nitro custom ordered one?

Do i need to be worried about anything here - thanks!

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6404/004uj5.jpg


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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:03 pm
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well, not having any luck with additional pics...can anyone see what i am referring to in the pic (link) that i posted in the previous message?


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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:07 pm
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ufboy73 wrote:
well, not having any luck with additional pics...can anyone see what i am referring to in the pic (link) that i posted in the previous message?


This has all been extremely fascinating. (...and I thought the sniff test was a big deal!) 8)

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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:44 pm
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ufboy73 wrote:
guys,

trying to get a pic that shows this (which is only viewable at a certain angle anyway) from such a reflective surface is a ****.

Anyway, here is the best pic ive been able to get of it so far. It is basically in between the high E and B string saddles - working its way down to the bottom of the guitar. its sort of like a vertical 'break' or something. this type of effect is basically all over the body and is visible depending on how the light is reflecting off the body.

Is this normal for a poly finish on the clapton's? or even a thin skin nitro custom ordered one?

Do i need to be worried about anything here - thanks!
????

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6404/004uj5.jpg


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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:25 pm
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alainlafrance wrote:
ufboy73 wrote:
guys,

trying to get a pic that shows this (which is only viewable at a certain angle anyway) from such a reflective surface is a ****.

Anyway, here is the best pic ive been able to get of it so far. It is basically in between the high E and B string saddles - working its way down to the bottom of the guitar. its sort of like a vertical 'break' or something. this type of effect is basically all over the body and is visible depending on how the light is reflecting off the body.

Is this normal for a poly finish on the clapton's? or even a thin skin nitro custom ordered one?

Do i need to be worried about anything here - thanks!
????

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6404/004uj5.jpg


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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:34 pm
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ok, these seem fractionally better...again, running down from the bridge (between the B and high E string saddles) to the bottom of the guitar - almost looks like a thin black line

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7804/33849911mi5.jpg

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/834/22695193lu4.jpg

if you can see that, what is it?


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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:46 pm
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Looks like a bad joint between two pieces of wood. The body is probably a 3 piece body. Have the same thing on a Squier, which would be expected.....

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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:56 pm
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the things is, that just happened to be the best example that i could get an example of - there are striations (or whatever) all over the body...so it cant be a joint i dont think (unless this thing is made of wood particles :) )

the pic is a little misleading because its doesnt really look like a black line but, sort of as you say, like different pieces coming together all over the body - if this is the 'grain showing through' (which i dont even know if it is) like the store guy said, i dont understand why it would be showing through the poly finish that should be on a clapton?


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5er driver wrote:
Looks like a bad joint between two pieces of wood. The body is probably a 3 piece body. Have the same thing on a Squier, which would be expected.....


+1 Yes, that looks like a seam between two parts of the body.

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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:13 pm
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alainlafrance wrote:
Wood is wood ;as and when the slight alterations of the wood will show off.
That's good as the lacquer is deeping into the wood.
Wood is still living even after being converted into a guitar body.
That's a good thing.


alain, i can understand your general point...however, i thought the CS Clapton's were stock poly finished and didnt think that this 'deepened' into the wood like a nitro finish would.

I guess my main concern is - am i dealing with a stock CS clapton here because i have not seen this type of visual effect all over the body on any of the Artist Series I have been able to look at (which should have the same thickness of poly finish, right?)


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