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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:26 am
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LeftyElliot wrote:
The guitar he used at Hyde Park 1996 is a Mercedes Blue/Green colour - not Pewter. He didn't use Pewter strats after 1990! His 'main' Pewter strat became black in summer 1990, and the second one (birdseye neck) was not used.

He did use a Pewter-ish strat at Hyde Park 2008 - it's a Ferrari colour called Grigio Silverstone. Very similar to Pewter but not Pewter :)


interesting. When you say the hyde park '96 was a 'Mercdes Blue/Green colour' do you mean similar to a mix of those two colors that is not available stock? Was it ever available and, if so, any ideas on the name?

Do we know if he ever actually used either the Mercedes or Midnight blue colors? based on the purchased guitar you posted, it sounds like he at least used Midnight.

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EC has used Mercedes Blue Stras on many occasions, both on stage and in the studio.
Mercedes Blue, although darker than Midnight Blue has a hint of green into it which shows more or less according to the light.

Alain

BTW the "three sisters" made by Todd Krause have a very sharp V shape at the headstock.


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Hey Alain, good to 'see' ya! 8)

Absolutely correct of course. The 'Mercedes Blue' does contain a hint of green hence why I wrote Blue/Green. That's the Hyde Park 96 guitar, but as Alain says he used them many more times during 96/97 (example avail on video - Hyde Park 96, Babyface NYC gig, Sheryl Crow London Gig). The Midnight Blue was used at the 96 Pavarotti concert.


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Hi Elliot,

Nice to see you here
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alainlafrance wrote:
EC has used Mercedes Blue Stras on many occasions, both on stage and in the studio.
Mercedes Blue, although darker than Midnight Blue has a hint of green into it which shows more or less according to the light.

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Alain, thanks a lot! Interesting you say the Mercedes is darker as I had been informed the Midnight was darker. Its really hard to judge the colorations online!

Any chance anyone would have comparable pics of the two - I just need to find someone who owns both and get them to snap a pic!:)


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ufboy73,

Did you check out the link I posted of the Midnight Blue EC? That was one of Eric's own guitars. It shows the dark sparkly blue quite well I think.


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LeftyElliot wrote:
ufboy73,

Did you check out the link I posted of the Midnight Blue EC? That was one of Eric's own guitars. It shows the dark sparkly blue quite well I think.


I did - it is actually the best representation of the midnight blue that i have been able to see. you really see the 'glitter' that is not evident on many of the other website pics.

My only point was that it would be great to be both colors under similar lighting conditions (since that can play such a huge role in how the guitars appear) - though i suspect that is not really too feasible.

Do you happen to know if the Mercedes is also sparkly as the Midnight? My impression is that Mercedes is a 'flatter' or almost 'slate' type of color/hue?


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Though I appreciate all this attention to the fine details of those two finishes I am still a bit perplexed about the offering of two so closely matched colors, particularly from the Custom Shop, though I suspect it has more to do with what the artist has authorized. I find that the black guitar is becoming mundane and having acquired an '89 Pewter, have a preference for that finish over my old 'Blackie'. I certainly would have rather seen them do something like the Fullerton as a nod to the the 'Brownie'. However, as I have said elsewhere, I suppose one could ask Krause to have it painted 'sky blue pink' as long as the signature was kept off the guitar. :wink: 8)

Carry on...it's been most interesting. :wink:

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zzdoc wrote:
Though I appreciate all this attention to the fine details of those two finishes I am still a bit perplexed about the offering of two so closely matched colors, particularly from the Custom Shop, though I suspect it has more to do with what the artist has authorized. I find that the black guitar is becoming mundane and having acquired an '89 Pewter, have a preference for that finish over my old 'Blackie'. I certainly would have rather seen them do something like the Fullerton as a nod to the the 'Brownie'. However, as I have said elsewhere, I suppose one could ask Krause to have it painted 'sky blue pink' as long as the signature was kept off the guitar. :wink: 8)

Carry on...it's been most interesting. :wink:

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As I have thought about trying to finalize my guitar choice - and the CS Clapton is a contender - I have been trying to decide which color I would get if i decided to go that route. It has occured to me, many times, that it just does not make sense to have two colors so close in nature. Internet pics can be deceiving but the colors have to be basically in the same family to even have any doubt as to the differences (even on the intenet).

I guess it is as you say - it must have really been selected from EC because no corporate decision would result in that kind of outcome. I mean, it would be different too if there were 20 colors carried stock and there were two shades of blue....but, come on, we only get to choose from 3 colors stock (one of which is black) and you make the other two shades of blue? at least, they both seem to be attractive shades of blue so, hopefully, can not really go wrong:)


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[quote="ufboy73"][quote="zzdoc"]: Be unique: go the extra $$ and have it finished like a Fullerton. 8)

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gotta go with the doc it appears we will not be facing a shortage of EC sigs,go the $ and make yours special


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gratz wrote:
gotta go with the doc it appears we will not be facing a shortage of EC sigs,go the $ and make yours special



Given the littany of finishes this guitar has gone through since 1988's inception of the Signature Series guitar and its ultimate partition into Artist, Custom Shop Signature, and Masterbuilt, I would go for a nicely finished piece of wood...( ash: for the grain pattern with a lightly figured
maple neck, in Sienna Burst for example). Other than the Tribute Blackie, there is no long THE guitar unless, as a collector, one desires one representative of each period in his career and, by my count you'd need at least 8 including a representative of the Crash guitar, and $50K or more. :roll:

Keep us posted. :wink:

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zzdoc wrote:
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gotta go with the doc it appears we will not be facing a shortage of EC sigs,go the $ and make yours special



Given the littany of finishes this guitar has gone through since 1988's inception of the Signature Series guitar and its ultimate partition into Artist, Custom Shop Signature, and Masterbuilt, I would go for a nicely finished piece of wood...( ash: for the grain pattern with a lightly figured
maple neck, in Sienna Burst for example). Other than the Tribute Blackie, there is no long THE guitar unless, as a collector, one desires one representative of each period in his career and, by my count you'd need at least 8 including a representative of the Crash guitar, and $50K or more. :roll:

Keep us posted. :wink:


I know this is going to be blasphemy here but.....ive never been a big fan of bursts. i dont know what it is, i just like solid colored bodies. i do think i will get one someday - but something like a '56NOS in that finish. the clapton, to me, with its modern vibe calls for a solid color. i know i am a minority on one on this - but ive got to live with it so i happen to be the one that counts :D

Doc, just so i understand, though, how these things work. were you saying a clapton with a sunburst finish? or a completely one-off guitar with the specs you were listing? was the suggestion then for a Masterbuilt or could you get specs like that in a Teambuilt. Im still not completely sure i understand the extent of specification possible through Teambuilt.


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one other question on CS Claptons....what do you guys think of a Nitro finished Clapton? Again, Im not sure if I would want Nitro on a 'modern' guitar like a Clapton? but i am intrigued by the notion...

Pros and cons, as you see them?

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ufboy73 wrote:
one other question on CS Claptons....what do you guys think of a Nitro finished Clapton? Again, Im not sure if I would want Nitro on a 'modern' guitar like a Clapton? but i am intrigued by the notion...Pros and cons, as you see them? thanks
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Setting your preferences for solid finishes aside, I suggested an approach to a wood grain finish. If I were going to give the nod to 'vintage/modern'ala Clapton's 'Brownie' I would have it finished as a Fullerton with a 21 fret neck and having the 'torpedoes' inside.(check the specs in the Custom Shop web page). So essentially, you have a mutt.

I would have Todd Kraus do this guitar, thus Masterpiece $$$ :wink:

Had I done this with the CS I built 5 years ago and just traded for my Gilmour, I likely would have been better pleased with the guitar. Had I known about Alain's triplet at the time, I would have had a better handle on specs and what to ask for . This was a teambuilt guitar and it had to go back to have the neck redone. It never quite lived up to perfect.

If you search some of my earliet posts in the Custom Shop forum, there are several descriptions of this build. :wink:

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