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Post subject: Re: Bugera V22
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:48 pm
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Maybe a speaker upgrade for the BJr, or just use an external cab. A closed back 1x12 with a decent speaker could be a good improvement, but a 2x12 or 4x12 would absolutely rock!

Yes, it makes a big difference. I converted my Blues JR. to a head and play it through a 2X12 mojotone horizontal slant with eminence Wizard and Swamp Thang (both high efficiency speakers). Sounds much much better and increased headroom. You don't absolutely have to convert it to a head, just unplug the internal speaker and use it as a head.
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Post subject: Re: Bugera V22
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:26 pm
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Take a look at Jet City. Mike Soldano has his hands in them. Great sounding, well built and affordable.

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Post subject: Re: Bugera V22
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:12 pm
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Take a look at Jet City. Mike Soldano has his hands in them. Great sounding, well built and affordable.
It's been a while now that I've tried various Jet City amps but only in the music store, never on stage. From what I can recall, my impressions were always good but I was never quite satisfied with the "cleanliness" of the "clean".

As for my band mate, he hasn't pulled the trigger yet but I think it's coming down to what he can afford and $270 USD for a used one in minty-mint condition is looking pretty good to him. 8)

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Post subject: Re: Bugera V22
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:18 pm
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63supro wrote:
Take a look at Jet City. Mike Soldano has his hands in them. Great sounding, well built and affordable.
It's been a while now that I've tried various Jet City amps but only in the music store, never on stage. From what I can recall, my impressions were always good but I was never quite satisfied with the "cleanliness" of the "clean".

As for my band mate, he hasn't pulled the trigger yet but I think it's coming down to what he can afford and $270 USD for a used one in minty-mint condition is looking pretty good to him. 8) e found. The build q

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I had a Jet City 20 watt half stack for a while and didn't care for it. There was no real headroom. The build quality was good though. It just wasn't my cup o tea.


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Post subject: Re: Bugera V22
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:17 pm
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There's always VHT too. I have an Egnater Rebel 20. Some Egnater amps had reliability issues notably the Tweaker series. I've had my Rebel for over five years with no issues and gigged the snot out of it. They have the new MK II series that seems to have addressed all the issues with transformers and such. The problem would he price and headroom. The DRRI doesn't have a huge amount of headroom but still a fair amount. Getting a lot of headroom out of a 20 watt amp will be tough. Ampeg has a lot of headroom, even in their lower wattage amps. Still, the king of clean is a Twin Reverb. I'd try looking at used amps to stay in budget. Anything is better than Bugera as far as reliability goes.

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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:23 pm
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63supro wrote:
There's always VHT too. I have an Egnater Rebel 20. Some Egnater amps had reliability issues notably the Tweaker series. I've had my Rebel for over five years with no issues and gigged the snot out of it. They have the new MK II series that seems to have addressed all the issues with transformers and such. The problem would he price and headroom. The DRRI doesn't have a huge amount of headroom but still a fair amount. Getting a lot of headroom out of a 20 watt amp will be tough. Ampeg has a lot of headroom, even in their lower wattage amps. Still, the king of clean is a Twin Reverb. I'd try looking at used amps to stay in budget. Anything is better than Bugera as far as reliability goes.

I have both a drri and now a Princeton (68 custom). To be honest both have more headroom than the Jet City had. But to be fair I believe the jc tone stack is geared toward the hi gain side of things and was a bad choice for my style of music.


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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:53 pm
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63supro wrote:
There's always VHT too. I have an Egnater Rebel 20. Some Egnater amps had reliability issues notably the Tweaker series. I've had my Rebel for over five years with no issues and gigged the snot out of it. They have the new MK II series that seems to have addressed all the issues with transformers and such. The problem would he price and headroom. The DRRI doesn't have a huge amount of headroom but still a fair amount. Getting a lot of headroom out of a 20 watt amp will be tough. Ampeg has a lot of headroom, even in their lower wattage amps. Still, the king of clean is a Twin Reverb. I'd try looking at used amps to stay in budget. Anything is better than Bugera as far as reliability goes.

I have both a drri and now a Princeton (68 custom). To be honest both have more headroom than the Jet City had. But to be fair I believe the jc tone stack is geared toward the hi gain side of things and was a bad choice for my style of music.


I agree budglo. I was just throwing out some suggestions for something reliable in a lower price range. I'm not a real headroom hound. We all perceive headroom differently. As far as getting over a drummer and keeping a lot of headroom, you're at the mercy of the drummer. My 18 watt Marshall and 5e3 clones have very little headroom but a lot of tasty growl. My Egnater rig has a fair bit of headroom as long as I'm running two 1x12 cabs and use both the 6v6 and EL84's evenly at around the twelve o'clock setting and can easily get over a drummer. It all boils down to taste. I liked the Jet City twenty watter quite a bit. The Egnater had too much gain for me but I tamed it with a 5751 preamp tube in V1.

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Post subject: Re: Bugera V22
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:12 am
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63supro wrote:
budglo wrote:
63supro wrote:
There's always VHT too. I have an Egnater Rebel 20. Some Egnater amps had reliability issues notably the Tweaker series. I've had my Rebel for over five years with no issues and gigged the snot out of it. They have the new MK II series that seems to have addressed all the issues with transformers and such. The problem would he price and headroom. The DRRI doesn't have a huge amount of headroom but still a fair amount. Getting a lot of headroom out of a 20 watt amp will be tough. Ampeg has a lot of headroom, even in their lower wattage amps. Still, the king of clean is a Twin Reverb. I'd try looking at used amps to stay in budget. Anything is better than Bugera as far as reliability goes.

I have both a drri and now a Princeton (68 custom). To be honest both have more headroom than the Jet City had. But to be fair I believe the jc tone stack is geared toward the hi gain side of things and was a bad choice for my style of music.


I agree budglo. I was just throwing out some suggestions for something reliable in a lower price range. I'm not a real headroom hound. We all perceive headroom differently. As far as getting over a drummer and keeping a lot of headroom, you're at the mercy of the drummer. My 18 watt Marshall and 5e3 clones have very little headroom but a lot of tasty growl. My Egnater rig has a fair bit of headroom as long as I'm running two 1x12 cabs and use both the 6v6 and EL84's evenly at around the twelve o'clock setting and can easily get over a drummer. It all boils down to taste. I liked the Jet City twenty watter quite a bit. The Egnater had too much gain for me but I tamed it with a 5751 preamp tube in V1.
I hear ya . There arent a ton of good amps in the lower wattage , lower price range to begin with. The good ones that Fender makes are on the upper end of most peoples budget. Thats why the blues jr is so popular( not because its a great amp).


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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:45 am
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budglo wrote:
63supro wrote:
budglo wrote:
63supro wrote:
There's always VHT too. I have an Egnater Rebel 20. Some Egnater amps had reliability issues notably the Tweaker series. I've had my Rebel for over five years with no issues and gigged the snot out of it. They have the new MK II series that seems to have addressed all the issues with transformers and such. The problem would he price and headroom. The DRRI doesn't have a huge amount of headroom but still a fair amount. Getting a lot of headroom out of a 20 watt amp will be tough. Ampeg has a lot of headroom, even in their lower wattage amps. Still, the king of clean is a Twin Reverb. I'd try looking at used amps to stay in budget. Anything is better than Bugera as far as reliability goes.

I have both a drri and now a Princeton (68 custom). To be honest both have more headroom than the Jet City had. But to be fair I believe the jc tone stack is geared toward the hi gain side of things and was a bad choice for my style of music.


I agree budglo. I was just throwing out some suggestions for something reliable in a lower price range. I'm not a real headroom hound. We all perceive headroom differently. As far as getting over a drummer and keeping a lot of headroom, you're at the mercy of the drummer. My 18 watt Marshall and 5e3 clones have very little headroom but a lot of tasty growl. My Egnater rig has a fair bit of headroom as long as I'm running two 1x12 cabs and use both the 6v6 and EL84's evenly at around the twelve o'clock setting and can easily get over a drummer. It all boils down to taste. I liked the Jet City twenty watter quite a bit. The Egnater had too much gain for me but I tamed it with a 5751 preamp tube in V1.
I hear ya . There arent a ton of good amps in the lower wattage , lower price range to begin with. The good ones that Fender makes are on the upper end of most peoples budget. Thats why the blues jr is so popular( not because its a great amp).


budglo, I just built a little true point to point eight watt kit from Mod Kits DIY that's totally addicting to play. It uses push pull pots to control bass, treble, mids and bright switch as well as a "Turbo" function. Runs on a EL84 and a ECC803 long plate preamp tube. It uses Hammond transformers. It's seriously quiet and sounds great through my Egnater cabs. Surprisingly loud with nice bottom end. I installed a headphone jack in it and I'm thinking about making the Turbo function foot switchable.

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Post subject: Re: Bugera V22
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:05 pm
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63supro wrote:
budglo wrote:
63supro wrote:
budglo wrote:
63supro wrote:
There's always VHT too. I have an Egnater Rebel 20. Some Egnater amps had reliability issues notably the Tweaker series. I've had my Rebel for over five years with no issues and gigged the snot out of it. They have the new MK II series that seems to have addressed all the issues with transformers and such. The problem would he price and headroom. The DRRI doesn't have a huge amount of headroom but still a fair amount. Getting a lot of headroom out of a 20 watt amp will be tough. Ampeg has a lot of headroom, even in their lower wattage amps. Still, the king of clean is a Twin Reverb. I'd try looking at used amps to stay in budget. Anything is better than Bugera as far as reliability goes.
that's awesome.
I have both a drri and now a Princeton (68 custom). To be honest both have more headroom than the Jet City had. But to be fair I believe the jc tone stack is geared toward the hi gain side of things and was a bad choice for my style of music.


I agree budglo. I was just throwing out some suggestions for something reliable in a lower price range. I'm not a real headroom hound. We all perceive headroom differently. As far as getting over a drummer and keeping a lot of headroom, you're at the mercy of the drummer. My 18 watt Marshall and 5e3 clones have very little headroom but a lot of tasty growl. My Egnater rig has a fair bit of headroom as long as I'm running two 1x12 cabs and use both the 6v6 and EL84's evenly at around the twelve o'clock setting and can easily get over a drummer. It all boils down to taste. I liked the Jet City twenty watter quite a bit. The Egnater had too much gain for me but I tamed it with a 5751 preamp tube in V1.
I hear ya . There arent a ton of good amps in the lower wattage , lower price range to begin with. The good ones that Fender makes are on the upper end of most peoples budget. Thats why the blues jr is so popular( not because its a great amp).


budglo, I just built a little true point to point eight watt kit from Mod Kits DIY that's totally addicting to play. It uses push pull pots to control bass, treble, mids and bright switch as well as a "Turbo" function. Runs on a EL84 and a ECC803 long plate preamp tube. It uses Hammond transformers. It's seriously quiet and sounds great through my Egnater cabs. Surprisingly loud with nice bottom end. I installed a headphone jack in it and I'm thinking about making the Turbo function foot switchable.
that's awesome. I always wanted to put an amp kit together but never seem to have the time.


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Post subject: Re: Bugera V22
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:43 pm
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budglo wrote:
63supro wrote:
budglo wrote:
63supro wrote:
budglo wrote:
63supro wrote:
There's always VHT too. I have an Egnater Rebel 20. Some Egnater amps had reliability issues notably the Tweaker series. I've had my Rebel for over five years with no issues and gigged the snot out of it. They have the new MK II series that seems to have addressed all the issues with transformers and such. The problem would he price and headroom. The DRRI doesn't have a huge amount of headroom but still a fair amount. Getting a lot of headroom out of a 20 watt amp will be tough. Ampeg has a lot of headroom, even in their lower wattage amps. Still, the king of clean is a Twin Reverb. I'd try looking at used amps to stay in budget. Anything is better than Bugera as far as reliability goes.
that's awesome.
I have both a drri and now a Princeton (68 custom). To be honest both have more headroom than the Jet City had. But to be fair I believe the jc tone stack is geared toward the hi gain side of things and was a bad choice for my style of music.


I agree budglo. I was just throwing out some suggestions for something reliable in a lower price range. I'm not a real headroom hound. We all perceive headroom differently. As far as getting over a drummer and keeping a lot of headroom, you're at the mercy of the drummer. My 18 watt Marshall and 5e3 clones have very little headroom but a lot of tasty growl. My Egnater rig has a fair bit of headroom as long as I'm running two 1x12 cabs and use both the 6v6 and EL84's evenly at around the twelve o'clock setting and can easily get over a drummer. It all boils down to taste. I liked the Jet City twenty watter quite a bit. The Egnater had too much gain for me but I tamed it with a 5751 preamp tube in V1.
I hear ya . There arent a ton of good amps in the lower wattage , lower price range to begin with. The good ones that Fender makes are on the upper end of most peoples budget. Thats why the blues jr is so popular( not because its a great amp).


budglo, I just built a little true point to point eight watt kit from Mod Kits DIY that's totally addicting to play. It uses push pull pots to control bass, treble, mids and bright switch as well as a "Turbo" function. Runs on a EL84 and a ECC803 long plate preamp tube. It uses Hammond transformers. It's seriously quiet and sounds great through my Egnater cabs. Surprisingly loud with nice bottom end. I installed a headphone jack in it and I'm thinking about making the Turbo function foot switchable.
that's awesome. I always wanted to put an amp kit together but never seem to have the time.


Nothing to add really. I just wanted to join the quote fest. ;-)

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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:29 am
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John Sims wrote:
Nothing to add really. I just wanted to join the quote fest. ;-)
Watching the recursive quote parade on a smart phone is even more fun. Screen real estate is taken up by the embedded elements and only about one or two words of the post fit in a column. :lol:

Meanwhile back at the Bugera dilemma, it turns out that my band mate was too late. The amp sold so he's back to the eternal quest. ....

Cheers and thanks to everyone for their input!
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....Meanwhile back at the Bugera dilemma, it turns out that my band mate was too late. The amp sold so he's back to the eternal quest. ....

Cheers and thanks to everyone for their input!
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Post subject: Re: Bugera V22
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Well... I have a different view about V22.
Ok, Bugera is not known to be top-reliable-quality brand, but this V22 is one of the most reliable amps they ever produced.
I own one, bought it used also. Its "revision 2" with orange light when on (not blue, those are rev.1 which had some problems with heat and reverb circuitry. That's why some people had bad experiences...)
Previous owner used to gig with it.
Not one problem! The stock speaker is very good, loud enough with great tone.
Bought 2 yrs ago, not a single problem.

But... we never know what to expect. I mean, there are boutique amps with problems too... but this one's a Bugera so...

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I've a V5 and after a re-tube and replacing the (supposedly better) Turbosound speaker with a Jensen I really like it. I'm even pondering a second one as a baby stereo rig.

It isn't the best amp ever built but. considering new it is the price of a good pedal, you can get two and have one as a stand by.

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