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Post subject: Question about EVH 5150 III 50 watt
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:53 pm
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Hi guys,
I have a question about EVH 5150 III 50 watt,
As you know the volage the 5153 in England is 220v,
But in USA, the voltage is 110v, and the price of 110v is much cheaper than 220v,
The voltage in my house is 220v,
So, my question is that is there a way to change the 110v version to 220v verion when I buy a 110 version 5153 ?
I read in some post that said that in some amps head, there is a switch (or some kind of wire stuff) in it, just change a little bit or weld a wire to another spot, then you can get different voltage.
So how do you guys think?


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Post subject: Re: Question about EVH 5150 III 50 watt
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:42 am
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kofboss wrote:
Hi guys,
I have a question about EVH 5150 III 50 watt,
As you know the volage the 5153 in England is 220v,
But in USA, the voltage is 110v, and the price of 110v is much cheaper Give link please

You mean the price of the amp sell in USA wich work on 120 volts are sell cheaper ?
By the way voltage in USA is more 120 than 110


than 220v,
The voltage in my house is 220v,
So, my question is that is there a way to change the 110v version to 220v verion when I buy a 110 version 5153 ?
I read in some post that said that in some amps head, there is a switch (or some kind of wire stuff) in it, just change a little bit or weld a wire to another spot, then you can get different voltage.
Any link ? IMO EVH amp for USA market ( 120 Volts ) have no switch for 230-240 volts


So how do you guys think?



Schematic here ;

http://support.evhgear.com/schematics/E ... mbined.pdf


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Post subject: Re: Question about EVH 5150 III 50 watt
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:25 am
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Looking at the schematics the input transformer is different on the 110V and 230/240V models so it isn't an easy change although you can get adaptor plugs to run US spec white goods from UK power sockets.

I think you will find that American built products are cheaper in the US irrespective of what voltage they are. If you buy from America and have delivered to the UK you will be charged import duty. As a rule of thumb I tend to consider what the price is listed in $ will be the same as you will pay ultimately in £.

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Post subject: Re: Question about EVH 5150 III 50 watt
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:36 am
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John Sims wrote:
Looking at the schematics the input transformer is different on the 110V and 230/240V models so it isn't an easy change although you can get adaptor plugs to run US spec white goods from UK power sockets.

I think you will find that American built products are cheaper in the US irrespective of what voltage they are. If you buy from America and have delivered to the UK you will be charged import duty. As a rule of thumb I tend to consider what the price is listed in $ will be the same as you will pay ultimately in £.



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Post subject: Re: Question about EVH 5150 III 50 watt
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:19 pm
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stratele52 wrote:
kofboss wrote:
Hi guys,
I have a question about EVH 5150 III 50 watt,
As you know the volage the 5153 in England is 220v,
But in USA, the voltage is 110v, and the price of 110v is much cheaper Give link please

You mean the price of the amp sell in USA wich work on 120 volts are sell cheaper ?
By the way voltage in USA is more 120 than 110


than 220v,
The voltage in my house is 220v,
So, my question is that is there a way to change the 110v version to 220v verion when I buy a 110 version 5153 ?
I read in some post that said that in some amps head, there is a switch (or some kind of wire stuff) in it, just change a little bit or weld a wire to another spot, then you can get different voltage.
Any link ? IMO EVH amp for USA market ( 120 Volts ) have no switch for 230-240 volts


So how do you guys think?



Schematic here ;

http://support.evhgear.com/schematics/E ... mbined.pdf


220v 5153 50 watts in UK:
http://www.musik-produktiv.co.uk/evh-51 ... ivory.html
price: 748 GBP = 1134.7 USD

110v 5153 50 watts in USA:
http://www.amazon.com/EVH-5150-Mini-50- ... h+5150+iii
price: 999.99 USD

And the post I read about changing the voltage was long time ago, I cannot find it now.

John Sims said that the input transformer is different on the 110V and 230/240V models according to the schematic. Does it mean the some of price differences(apart from import duty) is caused by the different input transformer?


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Post subject: Re: Question about EVH 5150 III 50 watt
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:05 am
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kofboss wrote:
[mDoes it mean the some of price differences(apart from import duty) is caused by the different input transformer?


Almost everything you buy in your country are more expensive than USA. Same for me , in Canada

Why ? Value of US dollar/ your money , shipping , distributor and may other reason .......

How can you buy from USA and save the $135 difference ? Shipping cost more and amp can't work in youre country because de wall voltage


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Post subject: Re: Question about EVH 5150 III 50 watt
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:25 am
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stratele52 wrote:

....Almost everything you buy in your country are more expensive than USA. Same for me , in Canada

Why ? Value of US dollar/ your money , shipping , distributor and may other reason .......

How can you buy from USA and save the $135 difference ? Shipping cost more .....


Absolutely.

Based on the figures quoted £748 sounds like a good price for something which is $1,000 in the US.

If you were to buy the $1000 US version (from the US) I can absolutely guarantee it will cost you more than £748 by the time you get to plug it in in the UK. IIRC Import duty is 20% + customs fees and you still have to pay for delivery.

And, you will have mismatched voltages working through a transformer plug, which you will have to buy. Valve amplifiers don't like mismatched input voltages so you are less likely to get hum if you buy the correct amp in the first place.

And, if something goes wrong with the amp in the first year what are you going to do? Send the amp back to the US? The probability is it will be classed as a grey import and even the manufacturer will disown it because it wasn't purchased through their approved dealer network.

The price difference is negligible and it isn't as if you can't get the item in the UK. I've imported specialist parts from "Across the Pond" many times but, generally only when either they aren't available in the UK or the price difference is sufficiently large to off set all of the above.

Just buy the UK version in the UK if that's what you want.

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Post subject: Re: Question about EVH 5150 III 50 watt
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:58 pm
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John Sims wrote:
stratele52 wrote:

....Almost everything you buy in your country are more expensive than USA. Same for me , in Canada

Why ? Value of US dollar/ your money , shipping , distributor and may other reason .......

How can you buy from USA and save the $135 difference ? Shipping cost more .....


Absolutely.

Based on the figures quoted £748 sounds like a good price for something which is $1,0000 in the US.

If you were to buy the $1000 US version (from the US) I can absolutely guarantee it will cost you more than £748 by the time you get to plug it in in the UK. IIRC Import duty is 20% + customs fees and you still have to pay for delivery.

And, you will have mismatched voltages working through a transformer plug, which you will have to buy. Valve amplifiers don't like mismatched input voltages so you are less likely to get hum if you buy the correct amp in the first place.

And, if something goes wrong with the amp in the first year what are you going to do? Send the amp back to the US? The probability is it will be classed as a grey import and even the manufacturer will disown it because it wasn't purchased through their approved dealer network.

The price difference is negligible and it isn't as if you can't get the item in the UK. I've imported specialist parts from "Across the Pond" many times but, generally only when either they aren't available in the UK or the price difference is sufficiently large to off set all of the above.

Just buy the UK version in the UK if that's what you want.


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Post subject: Re: Question about EVH 5150 III 50 watt
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:17 am
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stratele52 wrote:
kofboss wrote:
Hi guys,
I have a question about EVH 5150 III 50 watt,
As you know the volage the 5153 in England is 220v,
But in USA, the voltage is 110v, and the price of 110v is much cheaper Give link please

You mean the price of the amp sell in USA wich work on 120 volts are sell cheaper ?
By the way voltage in USA is more 120 than 110


than 220v,
The voltage in my house is 220v,
So, my question is that is there a way to change the 110v version to 220v verion when I buy a 110 version 5153 ?
I read in some post that said that in some amps head, there is a switch (or some kind of wire stuff) in it, just change a little bit or weld a wire to another spot, then you can get different voltage.
Any link ? IMO EVH amp for USA market ( 120 Volts ) have no switch for 230-240 volts


So how do you guys think?



Schematic here ;

http://support.evhgear.com/schematics/E ... mbined.pdf


I found the article which describes how to change the voltage in amp head,
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_5f30665c0101av0b.html

The amps head showed in this article are Mesa Boogie Mark IV and Marshall JCM900
This is a Chinese website, you can use google website translator to translate into English(I am Chinese).
I post the image here,
Mesa Boogie Mark IV images:
Image
The top of image is Mesa Boogie Mark IV local version which cannot change voltage.
The bottom of image is Mesa Boogie Mark IV export version which can change voltage.

Image
This one is the real image of Mesa Boogie Mark IV export version which can change voltage

Image
This one is the real image of Mesa Boogie Mark IV local version which cannot change voltage.

The marshall image you can see in that artical.


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Post subject: Re: Question about EVH 5150 III 50 watt
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:57 am
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kofboss,

You can't change the voltage if the amp is not made for .

EVH 5150 for US market is not made for .


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Post subject: Re: Question about EVH 5150 III 50 watt
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:55 am
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stratele52 wrote:
kofboss,

You can't change the voltage if the amp is not made for .

EVH 5150 for US market is not made for .


Indeed. The schematics show two different input transformers - one for the American market (which has one tapping for one voltage) and one for the export market which has multiple tappings which accommodate different mains voltages. You can't change the tappings if they aren't there in the first place.

But, as said earlier, it's all a bit academic as (based on the price of the UK version) you wouldn't buy and American one and import it.....would you.

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Post subject: Re: Question about EVH 5150 III 50 watt
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Can I use my 5150 III 2x12 combo bought in Japan (100v) in the USA (110v-120v)? for over 4 years no problems at all. Seems the schematics show the same output voltage (125v 4A) the two PICO quick fuse on the output stage of the power transformer have NEVER blown as I'm sure they would have if too much volatge was coming out the PT...

But if you used UK power, on a 120v power trans. I'm sure it would pop those 2 fuses, HOPEFULLY before it goes to the board, After all, that's how it's suppose to work. Just asking to be on the safe side. Called fender about this and they couldn't give me a definitive explanation, just said don't do it for longevity reasons! Well, then sell me a 120v power transformer... :roll:


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