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Post subject: grill cloth - can I use regular cloth?
Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 3:09 pm
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I have a speaker cabinet I made around 1967 that had a 12" speaker (long gone). When I made it I got some psychedelic flowered cloth from JJ Newberry's to use as grill cloth. I'm thinking of replacing the speaker (with a matching Jensen) and using it with my '65 RI Deluxe Reverb. So, the question is - can I just use this regular cloth as grill cloth without adversely affecting the sound? I'm thinking of replacing the grill cloth on the '65 RI DR with the same sort of stuff if I can find it...


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Post subject: Re: grill cloth - can I use regular cloth?
Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 3:20 pm
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As long as the cloth is acoustically transparent it shouldn't matter.

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Post subject: Re: grill cloth - can I use regular cloth?
Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 5:43 pm
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Post subject: Re: grill cloth - can I use regular cloth?
Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 5:59 pm
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Worm an argyle sock completely over your head then put on a pair of earbuds and play your favorite MP3.

That's what non-transparent cloth sounds like.

Repeat the test scenario using a pair of sheer pantyhose.

Hear the difference?

You want grill cloth that doesn't attenuate or alter the acoustic signature of your speakers.

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Post subject: Re: grill cloth - can I use regular cloth?
Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 6:36 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
Worm an argyle sock completely over your head then put on a pair of earbuds and play your favorite MP3.

That's what non-transparent cloth sounds like.

Repeat the test scenario using a pair of sheer pantyhose.

Hear the difference?

You want grill cloth that doesn't attenuate or alter the acoustic signature of your speakers.


That's utter balderdash. In the above scenario, what will affect sound is how well you can fit the ear buds. Note that in cold weather climates, a hand knit sock is still the preferred mic cover.

The cloth on a cab does not rest against your ear. It's how it sounds from a distance that matters. And there's going to be very little to no difference with anything that isn't thick enough to muffle the sound or too tight woven to let air through. I.e. don't use a blanket, and don't use oil cloth.

The "metallic" amp cloth on many Fender amps wasn't chosen for its audible qualities, but because it is fairy tear resistant and stains don't show too well. Remember this was in the ubiquitous smoking days. Some of the best amps even use woven rattan-like cane fibers.


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Post subject: Re: grill cloth - can I use regular cloth?
Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 2:29 am
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When I made some DIY hi-fi speaker cabs, I tried out some different clothes by temporarily stretches them out over the grille frame. Then, step back and listen. Thin double knit polyester has good audio transparency and keeps its shape. Even with double JBL 15-inch 136A subwoofer driven y a 500 watt SAE amp.


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Post subject: Re: grill cloth - can I use regular cloth?
Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 8:56 pm
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You can tune your cab by using different weaves to mellow the tone! :lol:

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Post subject: Re: grill cloth - can I use regular cloth?
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 10:35 am
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I cut up a Hawaiian shirt for a custom build. It looked cool.

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Post subject: Re: grill cloth - can I use regular cloth?
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 4:10 pm
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arth1 wrote:
Retroverbial wrote:

You want grill cloth that doesn't attenuate or alter the acoustic signature of your speakers.

That's utter balderdash.

It's how it sounds from a distance that matters. And there's going to be very little to no difference with anything that isn't thick enough to muffle the sound or too tight woven to let air through. I.e. don't use a blanket, and don't use oil cloth.



I think you pretty much repeated what Arjay said......only in laymans terms..... :D.

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