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Post subject: 65 prri sounded poor
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:55 am
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but it wasnt the amp!!! recently I picked up an epi es 339 and got her home and plugged into my 65 prri and man ,I was ready to return the git or fix the amp within 2 minutes ! Then I plugged into my Deville 4x10 and instant heaven. I love my princeton,it loves my strat, but it dosnt love every guitar, I guess Im saying that if your amp sounds bad with a new git try another amp before you get crazy and return the git OR mod your amp fwiw j


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Post subject: Re: 65 prri sounded poor
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:29 am
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Ummm, did you try plugging the Epi into input #2 on the PRRI? #2 is designed for humbuckers and other high output pickups and cuts the input to V1 by 6 dB. You may have simply overloaded V1 (the volume control comes after V1) if you plugged into input #1. DeVille 4x10 is more flexible and is not bothered by humbuckers as much. I plug my humbucker guitars into input #1 of all my amps.

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Post subject: Re: 65 prri sounded poor
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:28 pm
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thats the usual solution, I have cs texas special pick ups in my strat and I use imput 2 often for them, especially when really cranked but the epi just seems to sound like krap in the prri no matter what, I just thought Id point out that sometimes certain guitars dont get the best sound from certain amps - ie les pauls seem to love marshall, strats and teles love fender amps.Sometimes its not the amp or guitar that sounds bad its the particular combination-- cheers j thanks


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Post subject: Re: 65 prri sounded poor
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:56 pm
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The OEM speaker used in the PRRI wins no sonic prizes -- have you tried alternatives?

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Post subject: Re: 65 prri sounded poor
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:20 pm
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I have pondered, but the amp is great for most apps and with the prri and deville 410 I have all basses covered, Ive been down the mod path before and find for me I prefer to get good stuff to begin with and leave things alone rather than chase elusive POSSIBLE improvements, cheaper and less expensive!! also having more than one amp and guitar has proven very effective AND cures gas-- cheers j


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Post subject: Re: 65 prri sounded poor
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:24 pm
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As you prefer.

Good luck.

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Post subject: Re: 65 prri sounded poor
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:03 pm
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jcmg wrote:
I just thought Id point out that sometimes certain guitars don't get the best sound from certain amps - ie: les pauls seem to love marshall. strats and teles love fender amps. Sometimes it's not the amp or guitar that sounds bad its the particular combination-- cheers j thanks


Les Paul's can sound good through Fender amps. Strats through Marshalls. No particular performer comes to mind. But, I'm sure you can find a few of these combos. :D :mrgreen: :D

Ok, all kidding aside --- what kinda pups are in that Epiphone? Plus, where are you setting the guitar's controls? Any pedals between the guitar and the amps? Have you fiddled with the amp's tone controls? Lot of variables. Maybe it's not an ideal impedance match between the guitar and amp.

And did you wear the same color sox when you tried both amps? What was the phase of the moon? I digress, again... :lol:

Sorry.


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Post subject: Re: 65 prri sounded poor
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:41 pm
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BMW2002Ti wrote:
And did you wear the same color sox when you tried both amps? What was the phase of the moon? I digress, again... :lol:


LMFAO!!!

I never have a problem with this combination......

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Post subject: Re: 65 prri sounded poor
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:28 pm
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These sound great through this:

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Post subject: Re: 65 prri sounded poor
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:58 am
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these were my obsevations with the gear mentioned, and my ears, is any one saying that in general lps and marshalls arnt used more frequenty than lps and prrs? and generally strats and tele used more with fenders than than high gain amps? Ive tried with 1 sock, 2 socks ,even with 1 sock inside out and 1 different colored sock and still the epi ( stock 2013 ) sounds gross in the stock prri to MY ears and thats just a personal observation, My original post was to suggest that not all gits sound good thru all amps but perhaps some on this this forum can disagree and let the fun begin. today Im gonna try it with a hat and see what happens cheers eh! canada eh !!!!


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Post subject: Re: 65 prri sounded poor
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:10 am
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OK... sox ruled-out! :lol:

What kinda pickups do you have in the Epiphone? What tube is in V1 of the PRRI? Any pedals? I have not played on the PRRI, but I have pretty darn hot pups in my LPS (500T and 496R). The guitar sounds fine through my 1966 PR. This amp has the same parameters and tube lineup of the PRRI. Without the printed circuit board.

In general, NO. Fender guitars do not sound better through Fender amps. And Gibsons (I assume you mean guitars with humbuckers or P90), through Marshall amps. The original designers did not intend for the guitars to be amp specific. AFAIK.


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Post subject: Re: 65 prri sounded poor
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:15 am
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I have four amps: a Fender Champion 600 reissue that I modified to a Champ 5F1 configuration and played through a 12" cab with a Fender/Eminence speaker; a Trainwreck Express clone that I built played through a Crate 4x12 with Celestion G12M Greenback Reissues; a Fender 5F6A clone that I built; and a Fender BDRI that I have heavily modified. I also have six guitars: A Fender Standard Strat; a Fender AVRI 52 Telecaster; a Squier Esquire; an Epiphone 1960 LP Standard Version 1; an Epiphone LP Jr; and an Ibanez GIO. I play all guitars through all my amps. A turn of the tone and volume controls on both amp and guitars and they all sound great. :D

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Post subject: Re: 65 prri sounded poor
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:22 am
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BMW2002Ti wrote:
OK... sox ruled-out! :lol:

What kinda pickups do you have in the Epiphone? What tube is in V1 of the PRRI? Any pedals? I have not played on the PRRI, but I have pretty darn hot pups in my LPS (500T and 496R). The guitar sounds fine through my 1966 PR. This amp has the same parameters and tube lineup of the PRRI. Without the printed circuit board.

In general, NO. Fender guitars do not sound better through Fender amps. And Gibsons (I assume you mean guitars with humbuckers or P90), through Marshall amps. The original designers did not intend for the guitars to be amp specific. AFAIK.


The Epi 339 is equipped with Epiphone Alnico Classic PRO™ humbuckers. The website doesn't say what type magnets are used or the winding resistance. My Epi LP uses Gibson Burstbucker 1 (neck) and 2 (bridge).

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Post subject: Re: 65 prri sounded poor
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:43 am
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just trying to say that not all gits will sound good thru all amps and modding either isnt allways the best solution, the tone controls on gits and amps will do as much or more than people think, if a prri is sounding farty u can turn it down a bit, adjust the tone controls, then, if unsatisfied, before you mod it out,maybe get another amp cause obviously you dont like the sound of your current amp, for a lot of people do this stuff, and still arnt happy, for my situation I will use the epi thru the deville, strat thru prri, save time and money and enjoy while leaving everything stock.... cheers j


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Post subject: Re: 65 prri sounded poor
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:16 am
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Have you bothered to check the idle bias of your PRRI?

I think it's absolutely ludicrous to expect $2000 tone from a six-hundred dollar amp. And that's what the PRRI purports to deliver if you believe the ad hype.

You want tone? Then be prepared to chase it.

You'll never hear it from a box-stock consumer-grade amp.

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