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Post subject: C-Rex is in de amp (HRD)
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:04 am
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So far no big difference than the Eminence Tonespotter with Weber Beam Blocker in front. I left the beam blocker out of the amp this time just to see what it sounded like without one. It is similar in sound to the Tonespotter/beam blocker except the bass notes are slightly crisper.

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Post subject: Re: C-Rex is in de amp (HRD)
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:01 pm
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I am seeing a little bit of differences as I play the thing, and I hear they will get better. So far so good.

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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:36 pm
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I have mine two months now but it has only 10+ hours of real playing. The only speaker I would replace it with is a broken in CRex. :D

I like what I hear now. I have three hemp cone speakers, Eminence 8", lil buddy 10" and the 12" CRex. Only lil buddy is broken in. It exhibits none of the nuanced 'quirkiness' I hear in the 12" and the 8". Just the the sweetest tone I've ever heard. Wide spectrum range, good articulation and robust reproduction even when stressed.

Good material for speakers, IMO.

Enjoy!

BTW. I'm getting a Hughes and Kettner tubemeister 5 in two days. It will mainly be for any recording I do. Of course a sweet one for room noodling while my 'real' amps are in the rehearsal studio.

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Post subject: Re: C-Rex is in de amp (HRD)
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:50 pm
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Wow effin wow. All I can say is I have been searchin for this kind of tone since I started playing in 1964.

I always found a use for the leaves and buds, but now I also found a fantastic use for the stems.

The Fender chime is mitigated a bit into something so smooth and different it might not suit your taste. But it is sure suiting mine.......

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Post subject: Re: C-Rex is in de amp (HRD)
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:52 pm
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modwiz wrote:
BTW. I'm getting a Hughes and Kettner tubemeister 5 in two days. rehearsal studio.


Good luck with it Modwiz......

I have a $99 Epiphone 5 watt Valve Jr Head in my studio hooked to a 300 watt EVM12L speaker cab. surprisingly it sounds geat clean and with a tube stomp in front for distortions.

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Post subject: Re: C-Rex is in de amp (HRD)
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:56 pm
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My Lil Buddy in the Super Champ X2 sounds very different than the C-Rex. I like them both of course, but the HRD is a bit higher fidelity than the SCX2. The 12" C Rex sounds quite different than the 10" Lil Buddy. However once I got used to the C-Rex, I like it even better. Nicest tone of any speaker I ever heard (in my hands)(and it ain't even broke in yet).

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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:42 pm
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My Lil Buddy in the Super Champ X2 sounds very different than the C-Rex. I like them both of course, but the HRD is a bit higher fidelity than the SCX2. The 12" C Rex sounds quite different than the 10" Lil Buddy. However once I got used to the C-Rex, I like it even better. Nicest tone of any speaker I ever heard (in my hands)(and it ain't even broke in yet).


Agreed. The CRex is monstrously good, :lol: and has a tone that the lil buddy does not have. I have the hemp 'bug' bad. :D

Tubemiester will be here tomorrow. Gonna run it through the CRex. :shock: Although I have a little 8" cab for it.

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Post subject: Re: C-Rex is in de amp (HRD)
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:24 pm
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It is definitely an acquired taste, and the C-Rex won't satisfy all tastes, that's for sure. It sounds rather dull at times, but it is so smooth without much pick attack, I am still pretty impressed by it. Of course we will have to see how well it works out after it breaks in. I did turn it up a little bit yesterday and the louder it got the nicer it sounded. Lots of nice under and overtones in the notes, and it imitates (not quite) power tube distortion as well with the under/overtones. Very nice.......

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Post subject: Re: C-Rex is in de amp (HRD)
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:59 am
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desertbluesman wrote:
I did turn it up a little bit yesterday and the louder it got the nicer it sounded. .


I agree there. While the C-rex sounds good at lower volumes, it sounds GREAT at loud volumes... I suspect it's the same ol' tube amp thing: the louder they get, the brighter they get, and the C-rex's relative "mellowness" helps keep that in check. I can also see why some folks report the C-Rex as being "too dark"... I'll bet those people are playing at lower/home/bedroom volumes.... BUT: pummel a C-Rex, and it gives up the goods!

It sounded great the 1st day I put it into my SS22, sounded even better after a week of pummeling, and I can still notice it changing still, altho much more slowly now... I'm able to turn up the treble and mids a bit more, even on my brightest guitar.

My theory has always been: tube amps (played loud) have more than enough treble; they don't need any high-end "help" from the speaker. Get a warm speaker, and turn the amp up!


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Post subject: Re: C-Rex is in de amp (HRD)
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:22 pm
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Good to see other hemp cone enthusiasts. I love the articulation of these speakers and the CRex really showcases that aspect. I hear notes with hemp cones that are missing, or not heard, from typical speaker cones.

I want to get the 15" neo Tone Tubby for a bass cab. I have a sense that I will hear bass like I never heard it before. As a fiber, I find hemp to be more resonant, or musical, than paper.

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Post subject: Re: C-Rex is in de amp (HRD)
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:52 pm
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For me, and of course all this stuff is really subjective, and half-guesses on our part, but FOR ME, I dig hemp because imo it sounds like a 20-year-old speaker already. Those fantastic vintage jensens everybody raves about? They're old. They've been ridden hard and put away wet. They're purt near wore out. i.e., they're MELLOW. Which is the perfect marriage for a bright Fender amp (or any bright amp, really).

Alot of people say the new RI Jensens are too bright, and maybe they are... but it's also entirely possible that vintage jensens were also that bright when new back in the 50s/60s. No way to really test my theory, I unfortunately left my time machine at the cleaners. :)

But that's why I dig hemp- they sound like WELL broken in speakers already. I only hope that doesn't mean they'l sound DEAD in 20 years lol.. (probably won't, since the hemp material is tougher than paper cone material, more stout/robust.)


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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:35 pm
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But that's why I dig hemp- they sound like WELL broken in speakers already. I only hope that doesn't mean they'l sound DEAD in 20 years lol.. (probably won't, since the hemp material is tougher than paper cone material, more stout/robust.)


I've got a sawbuck that says those hempcones will sound positively magical in twenty years.

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Vintage Jensens (when they were new) did sound pretty "bright" and "shiny" out of the gate, especially the ceramic editions. But materials back then were not as durable and impervious to aging as with contemporary speakers manufactured today. Thus, those old Jensen's "mellowed" rather quickly, endearing them to those who loved that bluesy-yet-articulate tone. That said, I think the modern hempcone speaker yields a pretty authentic vibe once past the initial break-in period.

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Post subject: Re: C-Rex is in de amp (HRD)
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:20 pm
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ruger9 wrote:
For me, and of course all this stuff is really subjective, and half-guesses on our part, but FOR ME, I dig hemp because imo it sounds like a 20-year-old speaker already. Those fantastic vintage jensens everybody raves about? They're old. They've been ridden hard and put away wet. They're purt near wore out. i.e., they're MELLOW. Which is the perfect marriage for a bright Fender amp (or any bright amp, really).

Alot of people say the new RI Jensens are too bright, and maybe they are... but it's also entirely possible that vintage jensens were also that bright when new back in the 50s/60s. No way to really test my theory, I unfortunately left my time machine at the cleaners. :)

But that's why I dig hemp- they sound like WELL broken in speakers already. I only hope that doesn't mean they'l sound DEAD in 20 years lol.. (probably won't, since the hemp material is tougher than paper cone material, more stout/robust.)


I enjoyed this post. :D

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Post subject: Re: C-Rex is in de amp (HRD)
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:24 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:

I've got a sawbuck that says those hempcones will sound positively magical in twenty years.

:wink:

Vintage Jensens (when they were new) did sound pretty "bright" and "shiny" out of the gate, especially the ceramic editions. But materials back then were not as durable and impervious to aging as with contemporary speakers manufactured today. Thus, those old Jensen's "mellowed" rather quickly, endearing them to those who loved that bluesy-yet-articulate tone. That said, I think the modern hempcone speaker yields a pretty authentic vibe once past the initial break-in period.

8)

Arjay


I am glad to 'hear' you speak well of hemp cones. My respect for your opinion, based on experience and knowledge, leads me to believe that my current three hempcone speakers will become treasures. :mrgreen:

Have at least two more in mind. A weber 10" alnico hemp would be a good partner with the lil buddy, or as a stand alone. Nice big magnet on the speaker too.
And, the aforementioned 15" hemp neo from tone tubby.

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Post subject: Re: C-Rex is in de amp (HRD)
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:06 pm
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Since we're gushing about the C-Rex, and hemp cones, I'll put in a good word for it's "big" (heavy) brother: the Alnico Canis Major. It's sounds ALOT like the C-rex, just not as stiff, it has some of that sweet alnico compression, which is great... in the right amp. The only problem is, if you're putting it in a combo, make sure it'll fit first! Big magnet/bell cover. Won't fit in my Super-sonic 22, which is why I went with the C-Rex.


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