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Post subject: FSR Daphne Blue Princeton
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:22 am
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One of these beautiful things went for $735 including shipping yesterday on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fender-65-Princ ... 4897.l4275

Should I have snagged it? Everyone who has one has them listed at $999.

I'm in love with it. Have never seen one in person. I found it only by mobile and was afraid to grab it having done no homework. Didn't even know if it was real. Seems to have the new '68 internals--more British break-up tone.

Anyone have one of these?

I think it looks sweeeeet.


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Post subject: Re: FSR Daphne Blue Princeton
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:23 am
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Her Wanna wrote:
One of these beautiful things went for $735 including shipping yesterday on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fender-65-Princ ... 4897.l4275

Should I have snagged it? Everyone who has one has them listed at $999.

I'm in love with it. Have never seen one in person. I found it only by mobile and was afraid to grab it having done no homework. Didn't even know if it was real. Seems to have the new '68 internals--more British break-up tone.

Anyone have one of these?

I think it looks sweeeeet.


I think it wise to wait for the right (vintage) SF Princeton to become available. The "Limited to 300 units for North America" is your basic marketing gimmick. It's a PRRI, regardless of what color grill cloth and badge gets slapped on.

It also does not contain the new Vintage Modified internals. Those just came out and are only available with SF cosmetics.


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Post subject: Re: FSR Daphne Blue Princeton
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:09 pm
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Toronado wrote:
I think it wise to wait for the right (vintage) SF Princeton to become available. The "Limited to 300 units for North America" is your basic marketing gimmick. It's a PRRI, regardless of what color grill cloth and badge gets slapped on.


+1!

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Post subject: Re: FSR Daphne Blue Princeton
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:29 pm
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I'm still looking for the Daphne Blue one because the one you show is sonic blue and white. Besides that you think tubes amps are no good compaired to you mustang and they have to many problems.


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Post subject: Re: FSR Daphne Blue Princeton
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:28 pm
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Yep. Just ordered my M3 for $289. I could not bring myself to pay $900 for the little buzzing, rattling, shaking, fragile, one-twang-tone fizzbox Princeton, when I could get a super-solid Mustang for less than 1/3 the price with 18 amps, 40 good sounding effects, and 560 tones all inside the box, and it can still take pedals. Mustang's princeton model gives better clarity and low end with no tube rattle or baffling problem than the real Princeton, when I want that tone.

#winning

In life, regarding everything--clothes, cars, women, guitars, amps--I decide the value of things based on my own senses and observation of them, what they are, not labels, brands, reputation, rumor, myth, peer pressure, or price. Unlike a lot of sheep in our "society." The mustang 3 and 4 amps are beasts for the price of 2 or 3 pedals. lzozlzozlzz. Especially for recording.

Don't knock 'em if you haven't tried 'em.

(also not fair to judge them before speaker break-in)

For this size amp and playing purpose, IMO Mustang III blows away the Princeton. Now, when it's time to do outdoor gigs, then I might need a 4X12 cab or super reverb or twin or whatever, but I think a lot of people who *admit* their own circumstances (i.e., mainly home playing; not famous musicians), are selling their huge rigs and going with Mustangs.

I'm talking Mustang III, IV, or V -- with decent speakers and power and allowing settings to be done without the need for a computer. I'm not talking about the I or II, which are more in the "toy" range IMO. no-name speakers and need to hook to a computer to use fuse.

Mustang III is a 1X12 Celestian 100W that weights 34 pounds...not a total lightweight.

Anyway I truly don't care what anyone else does and I'm not trying to convince anyway. In fact better for me if nobody else buys a mustang and the price goes down and it's my little secret weapon.

except it's not because the world is already full of musicians who have been gigging for 40 years who sold their twin and now do outdoor gigs with mustang III (not even the IV!!)

sweet.


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Post subject: Re: FSR Daphne Blue Princeton
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:37 am
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You make no sense in your rambling you go from I almost bought this amp and I'm in love with it to basically calling them junk. I think your insane


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Post subject: Re: FSR Daphne Blue Princeton
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:39 pm
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Her Wanna wrote:
Don't knock 'em if you haven't tried 'em.

The same can be said for a REAL Princeton.


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Post subject: Re: FSR Daphne Blue Princeton
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:02 pm
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Toronado wrote:
The same can be said for a REAL Princeton.


Save your strength, Toronado......you cannot save the willfully ignorant.

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Post subject: Re: FSR Daphne Blue Princeton
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:29 pm
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tbazzone wrote:
You make no sense in your rambling you go from I almost bought this amp and I'm in love with it to basically calling them junk. I think your insane


It's "you're."


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Post subject: Re: FSR Daphne Blue Princeton
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:29 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
Toronado wrote:
The same can be said for a REAL Princeton.


Save your strength, Toronado......you cannot save the willfully ignorant.

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Arjay


Like those who continue to bash amps they have never played or heard? That happens to be the actual legal definition of "willful ignorance." Seriously. Another way to be willfully ignorant is to ignore blind "tone tests" all over the place in which people were unable to determine which was the Deluxe and which was the Mustang (but 70% chose Mustang as the better tone). lol.


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Post subject: Re: FSR Daphne Blue Princeton
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:01 pm
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Her Wanna wrote:
tbazzone wrote:
You make no sense in your rambling you go from I almost bought this amp and I'm in love with it to basically calling them junk. I think your insane


It's "you're."

Thanks you the correction. In this thread who bashed the mustang and who bashed the tube amps? So what you have said you have played this princton and your mustang is better or are just going by what others have said.


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Post subject: Re: FSR Daphne Blue Princeton
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:12 pm
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The junk I "bash" is junk I've personally heard and played, pal.

As for "tests", when your plastic amp can pass the "Ford F150 exam"*, then you can crow about what a great piece of gear you've got.

(*the Ford F150 exam -- open tailgate, place amp thus, have an assistant put the vehicle in reverse and accelerate briefly, dumping said amp onto a macadamized or cement surface. If the amp survives the impact and can immediately be played, then it's worthy. If not, then hookshot it into any convenient dumpster and buy yourself a draft beer then sob incoherently into the glass.)

Many a time real amps have been subjected to just such abuse......and survived.

You think your new chicom-made POS will?

Then go ahead and try it.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post subject: Re: FSR Daphne Blue Princeton
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:52 pm
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(*the Ford F150 exam -- open tailgate, place amp thus, have an assistant put the vehicle in reverse and accelerate briefly, dumping said amp onto a macadamized or cement surface.

If you put the vehicle in reverse and accelerate briefly, surely the amp will roll up the flatbed towards the cabin, not fall off the back.

Anyhow, my Oranges seem to survive transport pretty well. The Tolex (or what they use instead of Tolex in Britain) is a bit scruffy in a couple of places, and I think the logo will fall off one day.
But the main reason for me is the no-nonsense sound. They do what I ask them to, every time. The Mustang, I never know what will sound like. It's my first and last Fender solid state. I'd give it away on CL, but it's not worth the hassle. Perhaps I can give it to trick-or-treaters.


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Post subject: Re: FSR Daphne Blue Princeton
Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:44 pm
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I use a Mustang I on a regular basis. It has given me no trouble at all as far as reliability. I have two because they were so cheap off craigslist. So far, I've not needed to plug in the spare.

I place the M1 on an amp stand and face it toward me and use it as my monitor. I hang an e609 in front of the speaker and let the sound man have his way for the house ears.

On stage, to my left is a drummer and to my right is a grand piano but I have no trouble hearing myself and I rarely turn the thing up past 5. We also have a bassist, acoustic guitarist, keyboard, and 4 singers harmonizing. The stage mix is a horrifying cacophony but I hear myself.

I only use one setting on the M1. I didn't buy it for the versatility I bought because it was dirt cheap used and I can easily afford the spare. The two M1s cost less than my e609 mic (bought the mic new and foolishly paid full retail). The one setting I use is a model of a deluxe reverb cranked. I can turn the volume on my guitar down and get a 'decent' clean tone and turn up the guitar volume to get the crunchies on. The dynamics and feel are definitely not the same as what I was accustomed to getting from a '66 Princeton Reverb I regrettably sold, however, the distinction is hard to detect, at least for me, when listening back to recorded material. I'm very impressed.

Despite the good luck with the M1 I am budgeting to eventually get a 1964 Princeton Reverb - which will cost a little bit more than the $50 and $60 I paid for the two M1s, but I have to have my dreams.

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