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Post subject: are '68 amps lemons?
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:03 pm
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I hate to even write this post... When I was a kid I spent hours looking at the Fender catalogs. At 15, when I joined my first professional band, I was able to get my dream amp - a brand new 1968 Pro Reverb. Since then I've had more Fender amps than I can count. I got the '68 Custom DR and was totally excited. It showed up with discolored tolex, a lot of background noise, and vibrato that was unusable because of the ticking sound. Another one showed up with the same problems plus the reverb would feedback at about '1'. I've heard and read about a lot of people having these exact same problems. I'm going to try another, but are these amps just lemons? They look great and I like the sound, but is Fender doing anything to address these problems?


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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:25 pm
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There are already two other threads going on about these issues, and one of them is yours. Why did you find the need to start a third???

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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:06 pm
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...I guess 'cause I'm upset about spending a lot (for me) of money on a product by a well regarded company that seems to be substandard, and by having it replaced by more of the same, and by seeing that a lot of other customers have had the same experience. I'm wondering if I should continue trying to make this work or just give up on it. I certainly won't bring it up here again...


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Post subject: Re: are '68 amps lemons?
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:27 pm
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I understand your frustration as I was looking at one of those to add to my stable.
Now that we are waiting on a feedback from the owners of the 'new' Fender amps, but read nothing but a 'lemon' articles about it .. .. hmm, Fender peps should sort this out, or maybe they just don't care.

Good luck!

ps. Do you still have your 1968 Pro Reverb? :?:


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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:48 pm
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ps. Do you still have your 1968 Pro Reverb? :?:


+1

You already have experience with great amps. No reason to diverge from what you know is a good thing.

(I do say this without having any experience with the new amps.)


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Post subject: Re: are '68 amps lemons?
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:33 pm
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Cut your losses and send the sonofabitch back.

Better to spend your $$$ on the "real McCoy" in any case.

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Post subject: Re: are '68 amps lemons?
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:41 am
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the problem is probably that they are made in Mexico.

All of the Fender Chinese-made stuff is great. Those people work hard.

They might have substandard components so they start with a handicap, but the build quality and quality control is 100% perfect.

See, eg, the Mustang amps and the Modern Player guitars.

My prettiest, best made guitar is my $300 modern player tele.

much much nicer neck and everything else than my 3 american fenders.

tied, actually, with my 2 japanese-made mustangs

don't own any MIM stuff and likely never will

I'm flat out serious I would take something made in China over Mexico any day. Those people work hard for fear of the gallows or a whipping....and they don't be takin' no smoke breaks all day or coming to work hungover either.

Cue everybody to tell me how great their MIM strat is.


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Post subject: Re: are '68 amps lemons?
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:53 am
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Her Wanna wrote:
the problem is probably that they are made in Mexico.

All of the Fender Chinese-made stuff is great. Those people work hard.

They might have substandard components so they start with a handicap, but the build quality and quality control is 100% perfect.

See, eg, the Mustang amps and the Modern Player guitars.

My prettiest, best made guitar is my $300 modern player tele.

much much nicer neck and everything else than my 3 american fenders.

tied, actually, with my 2 japanese-made mustangs

don't own any MIM stuff and likely never will

I'm flat out serious I would take something made in China over Mexico any day. Those people work hard for fear of the gallows or a whipping....and they don't be takin' no smoke breaks all day or coming to work hungover either.

Cue everybody to tell me how great their MIM strat is.


You just made a whole slew of dangerous generalizations. I don't even want to get into this argument. :roll:


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Post subject: Re: are '68 amps lemons?
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:09 pm
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Toronado wrote:
Her Wanna wrote:
the problem is probably that they are made in Mexico.

All of the Fender Chinese-made stuff is great. Those people work hard.

They might have substandard components so they start with a handicap, but the build quality and quality control is 100% perfect.

See, eg, the Mustang amps and the Modern Player guitars.

My prettiest, best made guitar is my $300 modern player tele.

much much nicer neck and everything else than my 3 american fenders.

tied, actually, with my 2 japanese-made mustangs

don't own any MIM stuff and likely never will

I'm flat out serious I would take something made in China over Mexico any day. Those people work hard for fear of the gallows or a whipping....and they don't be takin' no smoke breaks all day or coming to work hungover either.

Cue everybody to tell me how great their MIM strat is.


You just made a whole slew of dangerous generalizations. I don't even want to get into this argument. :roll:

:( ^^^AGREE 100%

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Post subject: Re: are '68 amps lemons?
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:10 pm
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Soooo... You're saying that Fender's Mexican employees do not work hard and that Fender's Chinese employees only work hard because they are afraid of being executed or whipped. Furthermore you would prefer to buy the Chinese guitars and amps because the executions and whippings make for some good luthier work.

Nice.


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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:00 pm
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DarkPenguin wrote:
Soooo... You're saying that Fender's Mexican employees do not work hard and that Fender's Chinese employees only work hard because they are afraid of being executed or whipped. Furthermore you would prefer to buy the Chinese guitars and amps because the executions and whippings make for some good luthier work.

Nice.


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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:26 pm
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Her Wanna wrote:
the problem is probably that they are made in Mexico.

All of the Fender Chinese-made stuff is great. Those people work hard.

They might have substandard components so they start with a handicap, but the build quality and quality control is 100% perfect.

See, eg, the Mustang amps and the Modern Player guitars.

My prettiest, best made guitar is my $300 modern player tele.

much much nicer neck and everything else than my 3 american fenders.

tied, actually, with my 2 japanese-made mustangs

don't own any MIM stuff and likely never will

I'm flat out serious I would take something made in China over Mexico any day. Those people work hard for fear of the gallows or a whipping....and they don't be takin' no smoke breaks all day or coming to work hungover either.

Cue everybody to tell me how great their MIM strat is.

This is outright laughable. Maybe you should move to china and just find out how wonderful it is.


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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:31 pm
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Just recently started reading topics here again as I was interested the new 68 custom vintage models. Have to say after reading all the negativity here I was skeptical about buying one to say the least. I figured we were only hearing from the folks with problems and decided to buy a 68 custom deluxe reverb anyway. UPS delivered it today. no issues at all.
sounds pretty darn good right out of the box. I will say I think my 05 65 DRRI with the pulled V1 probably sounds a little better. but its been played 10 hrs a week for the past 8 years. I only notice a little more gain in the " custom " channel. But I do like having reverb and vibrato in both channels. the reverb sounds great (probably a litte better than the DRRI) typical lush fender tube reverb! The vibrato sounds very similar to my DRRI and certainly I would not classify it as great. --- But I'm probably biased as I have a '63 vibroverb as well.
now THATS VIBRATO!!! :P


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Post subject: Re: are '68 amps lemons?
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:34 pm
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[/quote]This is outright laughable. Maybe you should move to china and just find out how wonderful it is.[/quote]

.. and expect to be executed ... :lol: :lol:


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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:51 pm
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...and expect to be executed ... :lol: :lol:


After they harvest your internal organs.

:mrgreen:

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