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Post subject: Re: '68 Deluxe Reverb problems...
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:58 am
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I have that same hum on my new 68 twin, when the foot switch is on the floor its louder. On top of the amp or near by on top of an old stereo cab its more quieter! I thought it was a grounding issue. I didnt try it unplugged yet.


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Post subject: Re: '68 Deluxe Reverb problems...
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:02 am
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phreddybee wrote:
this is what bums me...when you see these issues, you don't have a way to know if this is a small percentage of amps having this problem, or a major flaw.

in my 30 plus years of sales, I have sold TV's and appliances (among other things). I can tell when a customer has read a consumer magazine or read online reviews by the questions they ask. I tell them to take them with a grain of salt, as typically reviews are written by people unhappy with their purchase. those who love their product tend not to post.

I will look at reviews when I get my next amp, but they won't make 100% of my decision.


This isn't a review. It's messageboard thread about a problem. Messageboards will have a higher percentage of troubleshooting threads. If you were looking for actual reviews, on MF, Amazon, searching the word "review" on places like TGP, and TDPRI, I think you will get a more balanced picture on which to base your decision. It is a challenge to figure out if it's "just me" or others. A message board is the best way to find that out IMO. You can post a poll or just generally get a sense if there are more than 1 or 2 people that have problems. Anecdotally, this is not the only thread I have read where people are saying the idle noise is higher than the DRRI. Unless people post actual experience with the amp (bad or good) it's hard to get a read on it.

This is a downside to the boxshifter culture than is GC / MF / et al. There is no one person at the store with product knowledge that can say if a piece of gear has deviated from the norm based on others in stock, whether it can be fixed with a new tube or moving these two wires, and no cumulative knowledge of someone who has talked to multiple customers and/or the manufacturer. I'm fully complicit in participating in it. Amps are challenging to evaluate in a store because the largest non-Guitar Center store in Chicago has awful grounding issues since they opened (years ago) so every amp buzzes. Guitar Center can have similar issues depending on where you plug in.

The good news is people are generally positive about the Custom 68's tone—as am I. So what is your experience? Help make this a more robust discussion.


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Post subject: Re: '68 Deluxe Reverb problems...
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:24 am
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phreddybee wrote:
this is what bums me...when you see these issues, you don't have a way to know if this is a small percentage of amps having this problem, or a major flaw.

in my 30 plus years of sales, I have sold TV's and appliances (among other things). I can tell when a customer has read a consumer magazine or read online reviews by the questions they ask. I tell them to take them with a grain of salt, as typically reviews are written by people unhappy with their purchase. those who love their product tend not to post.

I will look at reviews when I get my next amp, but they won't make 100% of my decision.


+1
From what I've seen, it is primarily the "few" that receive a poorly dressed, or badly QC'd product that post about the new products. Those that have an exceptional product, like mine so far, rarely post about all the great attributes of the product. At least not in high enough numbers to give a true indication of "as designed" vs. lemons. Mine is working as advertised, and has the opto-roach, NOT the digital board that so many DRRI amps have.

I'm still breaking mine in thanks to some medical issues that took me off-line for a couple of months. Still not supposed to be lifting anything over 5lb. :shock: which means most guitars. But I have to draw the line somewhere. Guitars are only 3lb or so above that. :?

So far, perfect amp that loves Jags, Strats, Tele's, LP's, and an ES-339. :D

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Post subject: Re: '68 Deluxe Reverb problems...
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:37 pm
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Art1 wrote:
phreddybee wrote:
this is what bums me...when you see these issues, you don't have a way to know if this is a small percentage of amps having this problem, or a major flaw.

in my 30 plus years of sales, I have sold TV's and appliances (among other things). I can tell when a customer has read a consumer magazine or read online reviews by the questions they ask. I tell them to take them with a grain of salt, as typically reviews are written by people unhappy with their purchase. those who love their product tend not to post.

I will look at reviews when I get my next amp, but they won't make 100% of my decision.


+1
From what I've seen, it is primarily the "few" that receive a poorly dressed, or badly QC'd product that post about the new products. Those that have an exceptional product, like mine so far, rarely post about all the great attributes of the product. At least not in high enough numbers to give a true indication of "as designed" vs. lemons. Mine is working as advertised, and has the opto-roach, NOT the digital board that so many DRRI amps have.

I'm still breaking mine in thanks to some medical issues that took me off-line for a couple of months. Still not supposed to be lifting anything over 5lb. :shock: which means most guitars. But I have to draw the line somewhere. Guitars are only 3lb or so above that. :?

So far, perfect amp that loves Jags, Strats, Tele's, LP's, and an ES-339. :D

Art

I only have a Gibson SG for now but the cleans are real nice. I need a strat or some other single coils to hear it sing. Are you using pedals for dirt? The speakers are being a little picky with my bogner pedals, still rolling some tubes and just stuck 2 At7's in Jan Philips:) more clearer sounding for sure.


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Post subject: Re: '68 Deluxe Reverb problems...
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 3:01 pm
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The dirt sounds good for me. But I just moved to a community where high db could be an issue, so I will most likely be experimenting with some pedals. I actually do have a Boss FDR-1 pedal that I can bring up the gain on while lowering the volume/level (on the pedal) for noodling around the house.

Once I am out and about again, I'll open her up and let the good times roll... 8)

I also need to pick up an A/B switch to quickly get between "Vintage" and "Custom".

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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 3:19 pm
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Art1 wrote:
I also need to pick up an A/B switch to quickly get between "Vintage" and "Custom".


A simple foot-switchable channel selector will be fine. Both channels are "in phase" so you won't need anything as elaborate as a Radial Big Shot with its switchable phasing or isolation transformer.

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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:04 am
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Yeah, that's a good thing. A few bucks saved there. A passive switch will do for noodling. Once it is less painful to bend and twist I can just move the cable.

Art


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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:51 am
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Redfarfisa wrote:
I got the new '68 Deluxe Reverb and found it had a lot of background noise (compared to my '65 DRRI), had a very loud tremolo 'ticking' noise, and had discolored patches on the top of the amp. I returned it for a new one and found the new one had the same noise level and the same tremolo ticking along with a lot of reverb feedback and even more noticeable discolored patches on the top of the amp. Anyone else finding this? Are these just problems with the first batch of this amp, or will they all be like this? Too bad; aside from this stuff, it is a great sounding amp!


I just received the new '68 Deluxe Reverb. I experience exactly the same problems as described above - a lot of background noise, very loud tremolo 'ticking' noise and a lot of reverb feedback. I am extremely disappointed.


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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:32 pm
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lassero wrote:
Redfarfisa wrote:
I got the new '68 Deluxe Reverb and found it had a lot of background noise (compared to my '65 DRRI), had a very loud tremolo 'ticking' noise, and had discolored patches on the top of the amp. I returned it for a new one and found the new one had the same noise level and the same tremolo ticking along with a lot of reverb feedback and even more noticeable discolored patches on the top of the amp. Anyone else finding this? Are these just problems with the first batch of this amp, or will they all be like this? Too bad; aside from this stuff, it is a great sounding amp!


I just received the new '68 Deluxe Reverb. I experience exactly the same problems as described above - a lot of background noise, very loud tremolo 'ticking' noise and a lot of reverb feedback. I am extremely disappointed.


I feel a great disturbance in "the force"......

:(

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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:20 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
lassero wrote:
Redfarfisa wrote:
I got the new '68 Deluxe Reverb and found it had a lot of background noise (compared to my '65 DRRI), had a very loud tremolo 'ticking' noise, and had discolored patches on the top of the amp. I returned it for a new one and found the new one had the same noise level and the same tremolo ticking along with a lot of reverb feedback and even more noticeable discolored patches on the top of the amp. Anyone else finding this? Are these just problems with the first batch of this amp, or will they all be like this? Too bad; aside from this stuff, it is a great sounding amp!


I just received the new '68 Deluxe Reverb. I experience exactly the same problems as described above - a lot of background noise, very loud tremolo 'ticking' noise and a lot of reverb feedback. I am extremely disappointed.


I feel a great disturbance in "the force"......

:(

Arjay


Seriously. Not another "vintage molested series" It's so sad. Why can't they just leave well enough alone? :(

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63supro wrote:
Seriously. Not another "vintage molested series" It's so sad. Why can't they just leave well enough alone? :(


+1

I would've preferred that Fender simply add the silverface cosmetics to the standard Deluxe Reverb re-issue and call it a day.

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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:47 pm
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My trem is completely quiet on the twin. The reverb does hum though. I replaced all the preamp tubes. The amp is really starting to loosen up and sound good at high volumes. Thats only 8 loud hours. No regrets!


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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:50 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
63supro wrote:
Seriously. Not another "vintage molested series" It's so sad. Why can't they just leave well enough alone? :(


+1

I would've preferred that Fender simply add the silverface cosmetics to the standard Deluxe Reverb re-issue and call it a day.

Arjay



Seems like it happens every time Arjay. They have all the groundwork done for them by Leo, then they build it but change it and make it problem prone. The originals were built like tanks, not Chevy Vegas. I would love to see hand wired versions of these amps.

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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:13 pm
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63supro wrote:
I would love to see hand wired versions of these amps.


Thankfully they're still out there (they just cost a little more since they're so old now).

Or we can build our own.

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Post subject: Re: '68 Deluxe Reverb problems...
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:04 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
Or we can build our own.


I returned the 68 DR and got a Mojotone kit. I was meticulous about the grounding and it's dead silent on idle and sounds great. Sorry other people are having issues. I know how frustrating it is.


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