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Post subject: Re: What cabinet would you plug this into?
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:43 pm
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I saw a raggedy old vintage Super Reverb for sale that I could afford. And it's been for sale since 2011. I wrote down all of the info/serial numbers I could find just in case. After doing some reading, if I'm convinced, I may just go pick up that hidden vintage gem.


If you can shoot some pics prior to any sale negotiations and post them, we'll try to help you out. It always pays to be forewarned in the case of some bargain-priced piece that might in fact be a chop-job.

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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:04 am
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Retroverbial wrote:
Stratoccountant wrote:
I saw a raggedy old vintage Super Reverb for sale that I could afford. And it's been for sale since 2011. I wrote down all of the info/serial numbers I could find just in case. After doing some reading, if I'm convinced, I may just go pick up that hidden vintage gem.


If you can shoot some pics prior to any sale negotiations and post them, we'll try to help you out. It always pays to be forewarned in the case of some bargain-priced piece that might in fact be a chop-job.

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This was the only picture I took.

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I can go there later this week and take more if you think it is legit. It looks better than I remember it looking. The only number that I can find that I wrote down was "A19260." I don't know if that means anything or not. Apparently I didn't get the serial number.

What do you think based on the photo?


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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:07 am
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I'd say it looks pretty clean. Plug it in and give her a go. Those old Supers were sweet amps. A little on the loud side, perhaps but sweet.

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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:43 am
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"A19260" seems to be formatted as a serial number and it translates to 1966.

The amp looks clean and unmolested, at least upon cursory inspection, and I'd definitely give it a serious look were I in the market for a vintage Super Reverb.

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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:56 am
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Sweet. I'll be able to go there tomorrow and see if they still have it. At the time I had ZERO interest in those vintage amps. But, that one caught my attention because it was a Super Reverb and I had just skimmed through "How to Hot Rod Your Fender Amp" to get the author's main claims about the amps he talked about. I did skip around a lot, but I believe he said that a vintage Super Reverb is the best vintage Fender amp to have as far as modding it. He made it clear that you shouldn't make any changes that are irreversible, but apparently he thinks that the vintage Super Reverb can be improved the most because its mods can all be reversed. So I considered buying it on the spot, and use that 30 day return window to see if it was all good inside. But I didn't. The salesman was annoying.

I guess it would be good to get now if it sounds good. And if I feel like making some temporary changes later on then I could.

But, I was really hoping to grab one of those new Roland mini cubes that I can hook up to all of the Apple products. That thing works with MacBooks, iPads, iPhones, iPods. And I would always make sure I had the newest Apple stuff so I could run my cube through all my gear. :D


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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:13 am
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Stratoccountant wrote:
but I believe he said that a vintage Super Reverb is the best vintage Fender amp to have as far as modding it.


Obviously a retard.

RETARD!

You don't 'mod' a vintage AB763 Super Reverb.

You upgrade to meet contemporary safety specs and you replace only those components as they relate to normal servicing protocols.

That's it.

Only a fool tampers with perfection.

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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:34 am
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Retroverbial wrote:
Stratoccountant wrote:
but I believe he said that a vintage Super Reverb is the best vintage Fender amp to have as far as modding it.


Obviously a retard.

RETARD!

You don't 'mod' a vintage AB763 Super Reverb.

You upgrade to meet contemporary safety specs and you replace only those components as they relate to normal servicing protocols.

That's it.

Only a fool tampers with perfection.

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I just double checked what I posted about the book. I wasn't exactly right about what he said. He did say it's ok to mod the early blackfaces, but recommends modding vintage silverface because you can get them for half the price. And he talks about how to modify many different vintage amps, but the one he talks about the most and mods the most is a vintage silverface that he bought for $800.

A quote from page 11: "A typical Fender silverface amplifier -- such as this Super Reverb -- is an excellent candidate for hot-rodding. Silverface amps were built from 1968 to 1981. This is the amp used for many of the modifications in this book."

Yeah, I don't know that I would make any changes to that one you say is a '66. I'm still going to see if it's still available.


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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:59 pm
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A quote from page 11: "A typical Fender silverface amplifier -- such as this Super Reverb -- is an excellent candidate for hot-rodding. Silverface amps were built from 1968 to 1981. This is the amp used for many of the modifications in this book."


A droid who doesn't know his azz from a can of Drano.

In point of fact, silverface Super Reverbs first appeared in the early summer of 1967.

I owned one, purchased in August of that year (my very first new Fender amp). And all silverface Super Reverbs built prior to April of 1968 were still wired to AB763 specs. A fool's errand to tamper with one of these in any way.

I don't have a dog in this fight -- you can believe some clown who spent more time with his literary agent negotiating the royalties for his $hitty book than he did researching his subject material or you can put your stock in those of us here on this forum who've collectively owned hundreds of vintage Fender amps and know them inside and out, backwards and forwards.

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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:08 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
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A quote from page 11: "A typical Fender silverface amplifier -- such as this Super Reverb -- is an excellent candidate for hot-rodding. Silverface amps were built from 1968 to 1981. This is the amp used for many of the modifications in this book."


A droid who doesn't know his azz from a can of Drano.

In point of fact, silverface Super Reverbs first appeared in the early summer of 1967.

I owned one, purchased in August of that year (my very first new Fender amp). And all silverface Super Reverbs built prior to April of 1968 were still wired to AB763 specs. A fool's errand to tamper with one of these in any way.

I don't have a dog in this fight -- you can believe some clown who spent more time with his literary agent negotiating the royalties for his $hitty book than he did researching his subject material or you can put your stock in those of us here on this forum who've collectively owned hundreds of vintage Fender amps and know them inside and out, backwards and forwards.

Adios

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The point I was trying to make was that I was wrong that author did not specifically say go hot rod your 66 Blackface. I wasn't posting a quote to argue against you. I wanted to clarify a major theme in a book that a lot of people have bought and read and to see if an expert would be more comfortable modding a silverface vs. an earlier blackface. It hadn't even crossed my mind to check if the facts were right.

I get it. Don't efff around with vintage amps. I'm glad that you pointed that stuff out so I didn't go out and buy an expensive vintage amp that I didn't want in the first place and end up ruining it's authenticity and value.

I'll stick with the '65 Deluxe RI or maybe the Blues Deluxe RI that I actually like.


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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:15 pm
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"How to Hot Rod Your Fender Amp" is an excellent book. So the author got the dates wrong by a couple of months. I have seen plenty of well know authors do much worse. If you haven't read the book (I have a copy), criticizing the book and author over such a minor error is uncalled for. For the record, the amp in the book is NOT an AB763 but the author shows how to convert it to that spec. Even if it was, so what? It's the author's amp. He can do whatever he wants with it.

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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:45 pm
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So the author got the dates wrong by a couple of months. I have seen plenty of well know authors do much worse.


The concept is known as "credibility".

Look it up.

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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:23 pm
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So the author got the dates wrong by a couple of months. I have seen plenty of well know authors do much worse.


The concept is known as "credibility".

Look it up.

Arjay


The complete statement in the text (not the photo caption) of the book is:

"Blackface models typically date from 1963 to 1967with slight date variations according to model. The Fender 'Silverface' era generally ran from 1968 to 1981, again varying slightly with each model."

Tom Wheeler makes the same general statements in "The Soul Of Tone".

I see nothing in those statements to make me question anyone's credibility.

FWIW, the specific Silverface amp referred to in the Fender mod book is stated to be from 1970, which from your own timeline would not be an AB783.

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