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Post subject: Princeton vs. DRRI
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:27 am
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Serious question. Now that price of DRRI has been reduced to $949 (can get it for $899 if you just ask), but Princeton has been left at $899 (before any discount), is there any reason why one would get a Princeton when they can get a DRRI for just $50 more?

I guess one reason might be actually wanting the smaller speaker slightly less watts for home use? But my understanding is Princeton is still super loud and not really good for low volume like any tube amp that can't be reduced to 5 watts.

Both are famous for the clean Fender tone. Is there any difference between them as far as the nature of the clean tone?


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Post subject: Re: Princeton vs. DRRI
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:08 am
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The Deluxe Reverb offers a better bottom end due to the larger speaker and cabinet plus more flexibility with its dual-channel layout. Gigs at small to medium venues are feasible with this amp. The Princeton Reverb has the sweeter tremolo circuit since it operates completely differently from that of the DR and is smaller, lighter, and more portable -- ideal for grab-and-go jams.

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Post subject: Re: Princeton vs. DRRI
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:28 pm
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I think maybe the kind of music you play might come into consideration and the princton good for recording. I've played both with a Gibson 335 and the princton sounded fantastic


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Post subject: Re: Princeton vs. DRRI
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:27 pm
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Another thing to have in mind is the DRRI's vibrato channel doesn't like overdrive/distortion pedals – at least not when the volume is below four+. So for you to enjoy the benefits of the vibrato/reverb with that channel, you'll need to forego the typical overdrive/distortion pedals when playing at home. Unless you don't mind playing quite loud of course.

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Post subject: Re: Princeton vs. DRRI
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:47 pm
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senggedorje wrote:
Another thing to have in mind is the DRRI's vibrato channel doesn't like overdrive/distortion pedals – at least not when the volume is below four+. So for you to enjoy the benefits of the vibrato/reverb with that channel, you'll need to forego the typical overdrive/distortion pedals when playing at home. Unless you don't mind playing quite loud of course.


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Biggest load of crap I've read all week!

(but hey, it's only Monday yet).

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Post subject: Re: Princeton vs. DRRI
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:28 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
senggedorje wrote:
Another thing to have in mind is the DRRI's vibrato channel doesn't like overdrive/distortion pedals – at least not when the volume is below four+. So for you to enjoy the benefits of the vibrato/reverb with that channel, you'll need to forego the typical overdrive/distortion pedals when playing at home. Unless you don't mind playing quite loud of course.


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Biggest load of crap I've read all week!

(but hey, it's only Monday yet).

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Could be... but I have tried several distortion pedals and a Fulltone OCD pedel with it and the top end gets scratchy and hissy every time. Yes, one can adjust the treble on the amp down to "4" or turn a adjust the tone on the pedal, but it just never sounds "right." The non-vibrato channel sounds "right" to me, and requires no extreme adjustments of the pedals. This is my personal experience, and there are other folks who make such claims on the net. Maybe we've all got the odd ball DRRI's that come out behaving in this way, or perhaps it's a feature of the amp. Clean or cranked, without said pedals, it sounds great, though. I really love the amp.

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Post subject: Re: Princeton vs. DRRI
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:45 pm
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The easiest relief for that symptom is to clip the bright cap (C10) in the vibrato channel. It's a bit of a pain to get to, requiring removal of the sub-board that the front-panel control pots are mounted to. This cap is only sonically relevant at low volumes so the amp's tone will remain unchanged with the volume set at "4" or above.

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Post subject: Re: Princeton vs. DRRI
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:57 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
The easiest relief for that symptom is to clip the bright cap (C10) in the vibrato channel. It's a bit of a pain to get to, requiring removal of the sub-board that the front-panel control pots are mounted to. This cap is only sonically relevant at low volumes so the amp's tone will remain unchanged with the volume set at "4" or above.

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So I did do this... but nonetheless, it would seem you and I have different understandings for "doesn't like overdrive/distortion pedals," which is cool. On the other hand, Arjay, I have read a number of your posts on the Fender Forum, have you pegged for an expert, so when you decried my post as "crap," or however you put it, I did actually wonder whether or not my experience was unique to myself or if I hadn't explained myself well.

After clipping the bright cap, both channels of the amp sound alike, if not identical, to my ears. It's a great amp, but a little too loud for my home.

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Post subject: Re: Princeton vs. DRRI
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:15 pm
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Buy a bigger home.

Or a less-powerful amp.

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Post subject: Re: Princeton vs. DRRI
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:27 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
Buy a bigger home.

Or a less-powerful amp.

Arjay


I just bought a PRRI, FSR surf green with a Celestion speaker, open box for a little more than 600 bucks. I LOVE it. It's everything I wanted the DRRI to be. It really suits the style of playing I do most of the time.

I did consider buying the bigger house....

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